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Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-19-2012, 11:39 AM Reply   
Post your pics of how you weight your boat. I watch all these videos of the pros and their wakes are massive but you rarely can catch a glimpse in a video of how weighted their boats are. So talk about your wake and the throw up some pics of it, and it loaded down. When i get home i will find some pics.
Old    Spencer (spencerwm)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-20-2012, 12:24 AM Reply   


Boys at AWS created an amazing wake behind a 21.5' boat. Slammed 2012 Malibu VLX.

Factory Ballast - Full
Right Rear Locker - 400lbs.
Left Rear Locker - 400lbs.
Cabin Area - 1000 lbs.
Bow - 750 lb. Fat Sac
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-20-2012, 12:56 AM Reply   
What engine and prop do you use^^^^ I use almost the exact same setup in my 04 VLX minus 1000# in center walkway... And I feel like it takes a while to get on plane
Old    Spencer (spencerwm)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-20-2012, 11:37 AM Reply   
This boat has the Monsoon with the Acme 1235. The OJ 5 blade is on there now. We will see what it does when the weather changes. With that much weight the 1235 does a really good job. The boat planes out fairly quickly. It's a race to 15mph.
Old    Bryce Stevens (SS_Hooke102)      Join Date: Sep 2011       03-20-2012, 11:48 AM Reply   
I'll have to add the pictures in a few months as I'm at school right now, but at home we run a '10 x-star with about 3500 in bags and usually around 6-8 people in the boat. That wake is sweet, but a little terrifying at the same time lol. We need to reprop though as we only are running the 350 mcx in it. Any prop suggestions?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-20-2012, 12:35 PM Reply   
That VLX is stacked. I went out in Brent Starr's 2008 VLX and got to watch him and Bret V ride. He had his VLX slammed like that. I think he had full stock 1250, 400-500's in the rear, 1000#triangle sac in the bow probably filled to 750#, 500 in the middle of cockpit floor and about 1000# of lead under the cockpit seats. Somewhere around 4000-4500 pounds. No wedge and the wake was huge and solid. Fun to watch rider's of that caliber riding a huge wake. I was hurt and didn't ride but even if I would of I probably would of gotten hurt. It was crazy though. When slowing down he had to watch for water coming over the back and front.
Old    Bhyatt (bhyatt_ohp)      Join Date: Oct 2007       03-20-2012, 1:58 PM Reply   
I currently have in my 2008 VLX:
500lb sand/lead hidden in bow storage (no front MLS tank)
500lb stock MLS center tank
(2) 200lb stock MLS rear tanks
150lb sand in each of the rear lockers
(1) 350lb Launch pad in isle walkway and another 350lb filled to about 300 in front of rear seat.
60-80% power mode on Wedge.

I like the wake, however I think I am wanting to go a different route with my weight setup. I have friends that like to surf, as do i occasionally, and the only option I have currently is to stack the two old school 350's in the rear locker which is a pain. Spencer, I'm thinking of doing the WM 750lb piggy back system in each rear locker, moving the 300lb sand thats currently in the rear lockers and hiding it in the cabin area, then putting the two 350lb launch pad sacks in the bow with the rest of the 500lb sand/lead still up there. I would pull the wedge up and have 4-5 people in the boat. I'm thinking 24mph at 75 feet would be pretty nice with that setup? Any suggestions? I'm trying to mimick what chad ran in his 2008 vlx he used to have. I know he didn't run the wedge on it.

Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-20-2012, 4:08 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by polarbill View Post
That VLX is stacked. I went out in Brent Starr's 2008 VLX and got to watch him and Bret V ride. He had his VLX slammed like that. I think he had full stock 1250, 400-500's in the rear, 1000#triangle sac in the bow probably filled to 750#, 500 in the middle of cockpit floor and about 1000# of lead under the cockpit seats. Somewhere around 4000-4500 pounds. No wedge and the wake was huge and solid. Fun to watch rider's of that caliber riding a huge wake. I was hurt and didn't ride but even if I would of I probably would of gotten hurt. It was crazy though. When slowing down he had to watch for water coming over the back and front.
Whatever happened to Brent Starr?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-20-2012, 4:19 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by durty_curt View Post
Whatever happened to Brent Starr?
He was living out on Mason Lake when I went out there but that was in 2008. No idea now.
Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-20-2012, 4:21 PM Reply   
x2. just watched "the truth" again the other day, have not seen him in anything since that video in 06
Old    Bryce Stevens (SS_Hooke102)      Join Date: Sep 2011       03-20-2012, 6:07 PM Reply   
the butter effect, i think that was in 07... i could be absolutely wrong about that though.
Old    Spencer (spencerwm)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-21-2012, 5:08 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhyatt_ohp View Post
Spencer, I'm thinking of doing the WM 750lb piggy back system in each rear locker, moving the 300lb sand thats currently in the rear lockers and hiding it in the cabin area, then putting the two 350lb launch pad sacks in the bow with the rest of the 500lb sand/lead still up there. I would pull the wedge up and have 4-5 people in the boat. I'm thinking 24mph at 75 feet would be pretty nice with that setup? Any suggestions? I'm trying to mimick what chad ran in his 2008 vlx he used to have. I know he didn't run the wedge on it.
That setup would give you a similar wake to Chad's. As you can tell from his videos his boat does have quite a bit of weight toward the stern to keep that "Malibu" lip on the top of the wake. The lip will produce the late upward pop when you hit it right. There is also a good amount of weight in the walk way and bow creating the long smooth transition. I think the secret is that Chad rides back closer to the curl which is a little further than 80'.

I think the WM piggy back is the way to go if you want to hit switches and not worry about it. I will tell you that the draining is slow. We reply on gravity to feed the water from the sac into the hard tank. There are a couple ways to speed that up if you want to.

My favorite wake setup behind the 2005-2008 VLX hull is full MLS, full 750's in the rear compartments, 400lb. in front of the back seat, 400lb. in the walk way, and another 400-600lbs. in the bow. The wake is hard as a rock with a long transition and a little pop at the top. Smooth enough to hit with a wakeskate but has enough pop to get you flying at tower level with a ton of air time.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-21-2012, 5:21 PM Reply   
Setup 1:
X-star
stock + pro-tour + ~1200lbs
The extra weight:

The wake:


Setup 2:
Old 210 nautique
1000lbs rear
750 mid
750 front
The wake:

Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       03-22-2012, 12:13 AM Reply   
Wow. That old 210 wake looks serious.
Old    Davis (Texan)      Join Date: May 2011       03-22-2012, 7:03 AM Reply   
That's a great pic of the original 210 wake we have been running that setup for 11 years. I assume your numbers take in stock ballast or the stock has been pulled.

That's the greatest thing about these boats. 2200-2700 pounds and you get that.
Old    Sippi (sippi)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-22-2012, 8:17 AM Reply   
That 210 is my idea of a perfect wake! Not to wide, straight up and down. I love that, granted its not for everybody, but that's perfect to me! As David said, is that over stock or did you pull stock tanks?
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-22-2012, 8:54 AM Reply   
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That's a great pic of the original 210 wake we have been running that setup for 11 years. I assume your numbers take in stock ballast or the stock has been pulled.
Its a supersport nautique - so same hull as the SAN but we had to do the ballast ourself.
V-drive sacs in the rear, fat seat bottom in the ski locker, and triangle bow sac under the playpen seating....

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That old 210 wake looks serious.
Hard to beat, especially since the boat is 17 years old.
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-22-2012, 9:01 AM Reply   
cant mistake that nautique rooster tail
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-22-2012, 9:05 AM Reply   
Man do I love me some 210 wake. I have a buddie with his dialed with about 1800 in it... AWESOME.
This pic is a 2011 MB F21 with stock (1800) and 450 in the nose. We had 4 adults in the boat as well.
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Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-22-2012, 9:45 AM Reply   
^^^that looks soooo clean
Old    kx250frider617            03-22-2012, 10:53 AM Reply   
In our 2001 tige 2100v we run 500 in each rear locker, 750 in the bow, 6 people in the boat, and taps at 4.


Not as heavy as everyone else but its definitely fun.
Old    Spencer (spencerwm)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-22-2012, 11:34 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by downfortheride View Post
This pic is a 2011 MB F21 with stock (1800) and 450 in the nose. We had 4 adults in the boat as well.
MB is building a great boat. I love that wake right from the factory. Add some weight to the bow and it just gets better. Sounds like Wakemakers needs to develop a custom bag for that bow walkway area.
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-22-2012, 4:13 PM Reply   
^ Spencer - A sack that fills under the seats will be magic!
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-22-2012, 5:11 PM Reply   
Yeah, why not a bow integrated sack? I haven't seen what the storage is like under the bow seats but it sounds like it you can get 300-400 under there you would be golden.

I think some sort of triple kit for the MB's with whatever the biggest bags you can get in the back plus the integrated sac would be sick.
Old    Bhyatt (bhyatt_ohp)      Join Date: Oct 2007       03-23-2012, 8:00 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by kx250frider617 View Post
In our 2001 tige 2100v we run 500 in each rear locker, 750 in the bow, 6 people in the boat, and taps at 4.


Not as heavy as everyone else but its definitely fun.
I could be wrong, but this photo looks extremely photoshopped in relation to where the rider is vs. where the take off splash is occurring.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-23-2012, 9:36 AM Reply   
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extremely photoshopped in relation to where the rider is vs. where the take off splash is occurring.
The spray from hitting the wake is behind him and the opposite side, just like every other photo posted on this thread.... not sure where else it should be
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       03-23-2012, 8:17 PM Reply   
2002 SANTE

1100lb bow bag
400lb in walkway
400lb across back
300lb center hard tank
750's in the rear lockers
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Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-23-2012, 8:20 PM Reply   
brett, do you have any wake pics of that setup? thanks
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       03-23-2012, 10:06 PM Reply   
I agree with Bhyatt. Looks photoshopped.
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       03-23-2012, 10:08 PM Reply   
The rider looks 20 feet in front of the splash but, who knows?
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-24-2012, 1:20 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhyatt_ohp View Post
I could be wrong, but this photo looks extremely photoshopped in relation to where the rider is vs. where the take off splash is occurring.
Is it just me or does it look like the rider has three arms? (zoom in and look closely)
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-24-2012, 3:50 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by durty_curt View Post
Is it just me or does it look like the rider has three arms? (zoom in and look closely)
Are you suggesting that this photo is "shopped" but rather than making the rider appear higher or wake larger they decided to add an extra arm? I think you are right. Its so obvious I am kicking myself for not catching it earlier.
Old    kx250frider617            03-24-2012, 9:18 AM Reply   
So i guess no one realizes that the boat is also moving 23mph forward while this picture is taken too. HAHA

Its not photoshoped, nor do I even no how to use photoshop, we were riding at 65ft that day tryin some new stuff.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-24-2012, 8:15 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ralph View Post
Are you suggesting that this photo is "shopped" but rather than making the rider appear higher or wake larger they decided to add an extra arm? I think you are right. Its so obvious I am kicking myself for not catching it earlier.
The photo shop choice, not the three armed man option
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       03-26-2012, 9:03 AM Reply   
johnny- I'll have to get a few this weekend. It's pretty beefy to say the least.
Old    MD (monroeyd)      Join Date: Jun 2006       03-26-2012, 2:45 PM Reply   
Here's ours:
'06 Supra 24, 23-24 mph, rope 82.5', 5 people in the boat
Bow - 450 lbs
Mid - 1400 lbs
Rear - 1100 lbs
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Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-29-2012, 6:27 AM Reply   
This is a buddy of mine who has an xstar. He is running 6,400 lbs ballast. Just look at where the trough of the wake is. That is one serious wake, and it makes me wet!
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Old    Brandon Zubke (bzubke1)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-29-2012, 7:01 AM Reply   
I've crossed that wake enough times on the river to know exactly which boat that is.
Old    LR3w8kbrdr            03-29-2012, 7:23 AM Reply   
Ur telling me that boat needs 6400lbs of ballast to produce that wake?
Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-29-2012, 8:20 AM Reply   
LR3-Look at that wake man. From the bottom of the trough to the top of the wake is atlest 5'. The wake is much bigger than what it looks like.

Brandon-How you like the wake. It should be even bigger now then previous. He just upgraded the rear sacks from 750's to 1,100's.
Old    LR3w8kbrdr            03-29-2012, 8:34 AM Reply   
I just cant imagine having to load 6400lbs of ballast. I wasnt knocking the wake but Ive seen XStars up close and ridden behind some that had no where near that much weight and were great wakes. I dont even think the pro guys ride with 6400lbs ballast behind an xstar.

What speed is that?
Old    Sippi (sippi)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-29-2012, 9:26 AM Reply   
5' tall? do you have a pic with a rider in it? I don't doubt the wake is huge with that much ballast in it, what wake wouldn't be, but 5'? please prove me wrong, i'd love to see that actually.
Old    J.B. O'Neill (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-29-2012, 9:53 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by LR3w8kbrdr View Post
I just cant imagine having to load 6400lbs of ballast. I wasnt knocking the wake but Ive seen XStars up close and ridden behind some that had no where near that much weight and were great wakes. I dont even think the pro guys ride with 6400lbs ballast behind an xstar.

What speed is that?
pahaha pretty much all the kids are running this much weight in orlando, and these 2 boats only have 400 hp..... all the MC riders have 500 hp...



Old    LR3w8kbrdr            03-29-2012, 10:13 AM Reply   
Interesting...been in 3 different pros boats and not one of them had visible sacks on the seats or floor (and it was in Orlando too). But thats why their pros I guess...they dont need the 5' monster wakes to get huge air.
Old    J.B. O'Neill (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-29-2012, 11:14 AM Reply   
i guess harley and dowdy arent pros then
Old    Brandon Zubke (bzubke1)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-29-2012, 11:25 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by brazosfreak05 View Post
LR3-Look at that wake man. From the bottom of the trough to the top of the wake is atlest 5'. The wake is much bigger than what it looks like.

Brandon-How you like the wake. It should be even bigger now then previous. He just upgraded the rear sacks from 750's to 1,100's.
I've never wake boarded behind that boat just see it out on the river all the time if it's the one i'm thinking of. Green and black x-star?
Old    LR3w8kbrdr            03-29-2012, 11:36 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by gnarslayer View Post
i guess harley and dowdy arent pros then
Sorry i did know harley did it. My bad. Too each its own though.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-29-2012, 11:49 AM Reply   
Whose boats are those that you took the pics of Gnar slayer?
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-29-2012, 12:23 PM Reply   
Quote:
From the bottom of the trough to the top of the wake is atlest 5'.
Next time you ride grab a yard stick, hold it up so we can measure that, because I'll bet my next paycheck it isn't 5'. Thats saying Darin Shapiro could stand in the trough and not be seen on the other side.

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Ur telling me that boat needs 6400lbs of ballast to produce that wake?
There is usually a point of diminising return on adding ballast, every boat is different but my guess it happens well before 6,400 lbs on a X-star
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-29-2012, 12:30 PM Reply   
^^^ i wanna see the wake on that 230. Is that JD's SAN???
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-29-2012, 12:31 PM Reply   
that Stars wake looks huge
Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-29-2012, 12:35 PM Reply   
I didn’t mean to say that it was 5' tall. No wake is going to be 5' tall. I was saying from the trough to the lip is at least 5'. Like a triangle 3 feet of run, two feet of rise, five feet of hypotenuse. I know those numbers aren’t ride but you get my drift? The length is at lest 5 foot. Oh and this is the exact same setup that Rusty rides.

Brandon-Yup

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Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-29-2012, 12:42 PM Reply   
Quote:
. Like a triangle 3 feet of run, two feet of rise, five feet of hypotenuse.
Wanna try that again?

...nm I see you added
Quote:
I know those numbers aren’t ride but you get my drift?
Just so we're all on the same page
3 feet of run and 2 feet of rise = 3.6 ft .... 5' hypotenuse means you've got a 3ft and 4ft. rise/run combo.... thats pretty huge.

...don't get me wrong, its a big clean wake, but not that big.

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Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-29-2012, 1:14 PM Reply   
Ok still not saying it is that big. I am just trying to say that it is five feet of ramp at least. You are right i do not know how tall it is. Im guessing maybe hip high. But the landing is so long. Thats what i am trying to say. I am just saying the wake is big. Triabgle analogy didnt explain what i wanted it to.
Old    Sippi (sippi)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-29-2012, 1:20 PM Reply   
just get a rider behind that thing and take a snapshot, but don't give us the "d+ck inches" method, (tellin us its 5 ft high when its 2), and no saying "the rider in this pic is 7 ft tall and its at his chest!!!" when the dude is 5'2"

yard stick is a good idea haha.
Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-29-2012, 1:29 PM Reply   
i agree
Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-29-2012, 4:48 PM Reply   
travis, i understand what you are trying to say. My wakeboard is approx 4'6" long, so you are essentially saying that if you were able to lay your board across the ramp of the wake, one tip would be at the lip and the other tip at the bottom of the trough.... I believe it. To nick, this is a right triangle, so the rise(a) and run(b) could have many values in order to get the hypotenues(c) to be 5 feet. The wake could be only 1 foot tall, but still have a 5 foot ramp...

back to that photo travis posted... so sick. the star loves weight and you can tell that is huge. Problem with photos of mellow wakes (star, malibu, axis, tige's) is that they never look big in photos. The nautiques and moomba/supra, epics, and MB's look big in photos, i think, because they are of the steeper persuasion.

regardless, that wake is sick and I want to ride it.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-29-2012, 7:56 PM Reply   
Quote:
To nick, this is a right triangle, so the rise(a) and run(b) could have many values in order to get the hypotenues(c) to be 5 feet. The wake could be only 1 foot tall, but still have a 5 foot ramp...
Or the dimensions I gave.
It could be any number of dimensions... I know Pythagoras plenty well

... but no one would be proud of a wake with a slope like you mentioned.
I would say rise/run for the following boats would be like:
Old 210 ~1:1
X-star 2:3
Malibu 1:2
Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-29-2012, 9:34 PM Reply   
I see what you are saying nick... regardless, the xstar wake, as you know, has a long smooth transition that gets longer the more weight you put in it. just look at the picture of the xstar wake that you posted, you could easily put that riders board across the face of the wake starting from the bottom of the trough to the top of the lip.

shoot, look at the Supra 24' that MD put up a few replies later, that has a long transition as well.

So travis' observation is valid and I think the picture you posted is the proof, that trough to wake lip is easily 5'.... easily.

Not that the actual length even matters... it is a nice transition and the very reason I love both the xstar wake and the malibus/axis' wakes.
Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-30-2012, 6:50 AM Reply   
So a photo is attached to show what the wake is like. This is not with all 6,400 lbs since the back lockers were not completly full. So know all you wake worlders can debate about how big the wake is.

Johnny-Yea that is what i was trying to explain with the length of the wake. I love how the wake has great length and then check out that lip at the end. The rider is standing at the lowest point of the wake. So from the rider to the lip the wake is getting taller.
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Old    Travis Fleming (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       03-30-2012, 6:56 AM Reply   
This is the non zoomed in photo
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Old    D Hill (dhill)      Join Date: Aug 2010       03-30-2012, 7:08 AM Reply   
^^ that's a great wake
Old    Sippi (sippi)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-30-2012, 8:58 AM Reply   
just for shtttz and giggles heres my 03 malibu response LX direct drive with a wedge and about 2500 pounds in it. great direct drive wake, but its time for an upgrade.
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Old    Sippi (sippi)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-30-2012, 8:59 AM Reply   
I'll take a pic soon of how little room we have in the boat after throwing that many bags in there haha.
Old    Ryan (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       03-31-2012, 5:13 PM Reply   
2006 Sanger V215
750's in the rear
500 in the front under the floor
1100 bow triangle in the front

This pic was before I got the triangle and I rode a 750 in the nose.
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Old    Jamie Corvin (Bumpass1)      Join Date: Oct 2010       04-14-2012, 8:20 PM Reply   
Here is mine.
"07 Supra Launch 21V
1180lbs in the center locker
650lbs in the rear lockers
3 adults and 2 kids
23mph
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Old    Fred (fredlap)      Join Date: Jul 2008       04-16-2012, 8:56 PM Reply   
Epic 23V. 23,3mph, around 1/2 of stock ballast. Gravity ballast filled in 30 sec!
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Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       04-16-2012, 9:09 PM Reply   
2 pictures of my A22.

One bow picture with approx 1850 lbs.

One cab picture showing approx 250 lbs of lead mid-ship and 1900 lbs in the rear.

But you say, "it looks like a stock boat straight from the factory with nothing on the seats or floor...." and I say, "yes, it does, but I assure you, there is 4000 lbs in that bad boy, 3400 of that is water on switches...... respect."
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Old    Scott (scotthons)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-17-2012, 9:02 AM Reply   
That Epic wake looks phenomenal
Old    Fred (fredlap)      Join Date: Jul 2008       04-17-2012, 12:00 PM Reply   
the first 2 pics ; epic 23V again, NO ballast, 9 adults, 23,3. the third one is about the same set up on the others pics above ( less than 1/2 of balast). the last pic show how the boat looks with this set up. there is no chances to sink this boat even if you're not a good driver.
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Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       02-19-2013, 8:09 AM Reply   
bump... Maybe JB, Chatt, or IronJay can get this thread going with their new setups?
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       02-19-2013, 9:36 AM Reply   
It seems to be all X-star's (which looks so good) but I thought I'd add some pics of a 2012 X-30. First pic is stock at about 21, second pic is stock plus about 1200 and a couple people, last few pics are from a Go pro with stock plus 1500 plus 8 people or so.

FYI Stock weight is about 1k (300 in each rear tank and about 350 in the front tank). I added in 750 sacks to each rear compartment. I plan to add another 1k this year.
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