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Old    NAW (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-01-2011, 7:00 AM Reply   
This is usually the time of year were the details on the new boats start trickling out of the dealer meetings and photo shoots.

I'm just wondering what everyone knows about the 2012 models from all the manufacturers. Any new technologies, models, options, etc?

Last edited by ripr; 08-01-2011 at 7:01 AM. Reason: spelling
Old    ScottRobinson            08-01-2011, 7:12 AM Reply   
Have 2012 Epic in barn now, going out tonight. New - no pumps to fill, all gravity based for the 4000#s. All wetsounds 14 speakers....new cut swim step so as to now cut into wave, and 8.2 Merc Engine with Cat. I know there is more but can't think of anything this min.
Old    Brain Rinse (brainrinse)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-01-2011, 7:25 AM Reply   
There's a new Moomba model for 2012... hoping to hear more about it after the dealer meeting today. Rumors are that it's a 22' pickle fork.
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       08-01-2011, 8:13 AM Reply   
Holy cow NAW is alive!!!!!
I am extremely curious to see what comes out of the Skiers Choice dealers meetings. They have been pretty tight lipped on new stuff so curious to see any new models on the Supra or Moomba side.
Old    Andrew Carnacchi (07launch22ssv)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-01-2011, 8:49 AM Reply   


New standard moomba tower, the new model was set to unveil at 11:30 so I'm sure I'll be getting those pictures soon.
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       08-01-2011, 8:59 AM Reply   
Cool. Keep the pics coming...
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-01-2011, 9:02 AM Reply   
yeah, that does look good. want to see better pics too!
Old    NAW (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-01-2011, 9:04 AM Reply   
I am too, Diggs. Looking forward to seeing whats new....I know alot of us SC fans have heard rumblings about some new things...but I ain't gonna spill the beans!

Thanks for the pic Andrew. Let us know the mojo on the new boat when you see it.

Haven't heard much from Correct Craft, Bu or MC. I know that Bu has the new wakesetter pickle...but not alot of details yet.

I'm definetly getting the itch to get a new one in 2012. The 2008 should be up for sale on Onlyinboards.com soon.

Last edited by ripr; 08-01-2011 at 9:07 AM.
Old    Shane Lafferty (pickle311)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-01-2011, 9:05 AM Reply   
2012 LSV

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater
Old    Andrew Carnacchi (07launch22ssv)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-01-2011, 9:13 AM Reply   

Another new tower pic, the boat is a dd outback
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-01-2011, 9:53 AM Reply   
The windshield looks different too, maybe its just the tower makes the side glass look smaller...

I'm not so sure on the tower, is that 1 5/8 tube? It looks kinda dinky...
Old    Andrew Carnacchi (07launch22ssv)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-01-2011, 10:13 AM Reply   




Pics are kinda janky but this is the 2012 Moomba Mojo.

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Old    Joe (ilikebeaverandboats)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-01-2011, 10:16 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07launch22ssv View Post


Pics are kinda janky but this is the 2012 Moomba Mojo.
is that nose rounded off? Hard to tell from those pictures. looks like it made the bow real big, but otherwise, i think it looks funky.
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-01-2011, 10:20 AM Reply   
that is the name of the boat? the mojo?
Old    NAW (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-01-2011, 10:27 AM Reply   
yeah, it's the Mojo.
Old    Brandon Zubke (bzubke1)      Join Date: Feb 2010       08-01-2011, 10:29 AM Reply   
Got any side profile pics?
Old    J D (jeff_mn)      Join Date: Jul 2009       08-01-2011, 10:29 AM Reply   
interesting nose.. almost looks like a deck boat inspiration.
Old    Andrew Carnacchi (07launch22ssv)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-01-2011, 10:30 AM Reply   
boat is basically a prototype at this stage, not into real production yet. they estimate production will start in october.
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-01-2011, 11:15 AM Reply   
Def looks like a deck boat.
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-01-2011, 11:18 AM Reply   
The bow shape reminds me of this (but maybe its just the low quality photo/glare from the white gel):
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-01-2011, 11:35 AM Reply   
Ehhh. I'm a big Moomba guy, but that doesn't look very promising. That thing has like 4' of freeboard, it looks pretty odd...
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-01-2011, 11:46 AM Reply   
here's a profile shot from facebook
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Old    J D (jeff_mn)      Join Date: Jul 2009       08-01-2011, 11:57 AM Reply   
looks very sinkable for the size! hope the wake is bomb and Moomba can get some marketshare back from Axis
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-01-2011, 12:09 PM Reply   
I do like how the tower folds. At least there are no skulls incorporated into the graphics.
Old    NAW (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-01-2011, 12:48 PM Reply   
Hopefully all the manufacturers have stepped away from the whole skull/iron bird/Affliction (douche cape) look for 2012 graphics.
Old    Brain Rinse (brainrinse)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-01-2011, 1:10 PM Reply   
I need some more pix of that bow! The profile, tower, transom, platform, all look very promising.
Old    Newty (newty)      Join Date: May 2005       08-01-2011, 1:27 PM Reply   
I'm liking the look. Looks to have some Supra lines, a MBish rear end and a malibu/tige-ish bow... ish. Cant wait to see it in person.
Old    Andrew Carnacchi (07launch22ssv)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-01-2011, 1:34 PM Reply   
I just heard the wet surface is pretty much the only part that is for sure right now, the one they had on display is basically the mold plug.
Old    Ed G (ed_g)      Join Date: Nov 2005       08-01-2011, 1:39 PM Reply   
I have to admit...I'm diggin' this thing a WHOLE bunch!

Be awesome if this was the surf specific boat we have been asking for.
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-01-2011, 1:56 PM Reply   
Does that platform seem really low to anyone else?
Old    Ty (wakeandsnow27)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-01-2011, 2:17 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ripr View Post
hopefully all the manufacturers have stepped away from the whole skull/iron bird/affliction (douche cape) look for 2012 graphics.
+1 :d
Old    Brain Rinse (brainrinse)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-01-2011, 3:23 PM Reply   
That hull and platform sure hint that this is gonna be a surf boat. Hope the wakeboard wake is nice too!
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-01-2011, 5:15 PM Reply   
The FB pic looks alot better! The platform definitely looks low. It's a new shape too.
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-01-2011, 5:18 PM Reply   
Ian- lots of freeboard is a good thing, yes it looks odd on the trailer but in the water it looks much better and the best thing is it enables more weight to be ran without worrying about water coming over when not at speed.
Old    A.J. West (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       08-01-2011, 5:35 PM Reply   
The bow on the new Moomba Mojo is God aweful...functional from the inside, but ugly. Platform and high freeboard does tend to hint at a surf boat. We'll see...Moomba's other boats (LSV and Outback V) accidently became really good, low cost surf boats. The platform looks to be solid or at least not just the usual flemsy platform that the Moombas are known for
Old    A.J. West (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       08-01-2011, 5:46 PM Reply   
Just noticed on the Moomba Mojo...playpen style bow BUT a walkway. I wonder how much bow ballast it will hold factory or is it going to be a small 400-650 center floor sac. I would be cool if there is a factory plug n' play bow sac available or standard IF this is a surf boat. If this hull turns out to be a great surf design it looks like Moomba with be to surfing (vs. Centurion) as Axis is to wakeboarding (vs. Malibu VLX, X-Star, and SAN 230)

Last edited by you_da_man; 08-01-2011 at 5:53 PM.
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-01-2011, 5:52 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by westsidarider View Post
Ian- lots of freeboard is a good thing, yes it looks odd on the trailer but in the water it looks much better and the best thing is it enables more weight to be ran without worrying about water coming over when not at speed.
Not for slalom it's not, lol
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-01-2011, 5:54 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ian_ashton View Post
The FB pic looks alot better! The platform definitely looks low. It's a new shape too.
Where on FB is this pic you talk of? It's not on Moombas page, go figure
Old    David Langston (rdlangston13)      Join Date: Feb 2011       08-01-2011, 7:33 PM Reply   
To everyone complaining about the bow, all it is is a pickle fork without the spikes sticking out on the sides. That being said all pickle fork bows are ugly to me, good thing they provide extra room for people/ballast, and throw good wakes. They definitely dont sell based on looks, at least not for me. That being said the platform looks WAAAAYYYY low on that huge rear end. that part is definitely ugly. i will be very very disappointed if this is a dedicated surf boat unless the LSV hull gets some major over hauls. i just feel the surfing market is very small in comparison to the wakeboarding market. i surf but only when the water is too ruff to wakeboard
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-01-2011, 8:00 PM Reply   
The platform looks funny for one because the boat has more freeboard than any other Moomba. Many boats have them that low, Nautiques, MBs, Tigé. Many of those have transom cutouts that diminish the severity of it is all. I like pickleforks for their function, more bow, storage room and no spray. For me it's more about the function than the looks.
Old    JV (jmvotto)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-01-2011, 8:20 PM Reply   
Can't really see the bow or transom when you are driving. I still like the classic look of the other moombas .

Looks a little like cab forward design of the chrylser cars in the 90's

Any other specs on the boat available yet?
Old    Joe (ilikebeaverandboats)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-01-2011, 9:36 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by chattwake View Post
The bow shape reminds me of this (but maybe its just the low quality photo/glare from the white gel):
EXACTLY what i was thinking.
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-02-2011, 5:14 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by razzman View Post
Where on FB is this pic you talk of? It's not on Moombas page, go figure
'wakereviews' posted it on page 2 referencing that it was from Facebook, I have no idea whose page it was on.
Old    Mnpracing (mnpracing)      Join Date: Aug 2011       08-02-2011, 6:17 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by razzman View Post
The platform looks funny for one because the boat has more freeboard than any other Moomba. Many boats have them that low, Nautiques, MBs, Tigé. Many of those have transom cutouts that diminish the severity of it is all. I like pickleforks for their function, more bow, storage room and no spray. For me it's more about the function than the looks.
Regarding the platform, here's why it looks too low to me: The draft seems shallower (or just as shallow) as the LSV. The surf-specific boats have more transom below the swim platform (more unweighted draft). I can't visualize this boat in the water with the swim deck at water level, it seems like there is not enough un-weighted draft for a surf boat. When weighted, it would seem the deck would be far below water level, and stay in the water (dragging) when at surf speed, which does not seem ideal.

I would trade in a heartbeat for a value-priced surf specific boat....
Old    Bevan (stxr_racer)      Join Date: Jun 2006       08-02-2011, 6:51 AM Reply   
2012 Byerly Boat!
New fabric pattern layout. Pockets in the sides for speakers and drink holders, ILINC2 system deletes all gauges. The old keypad is gone - the new one is much simpler. 409HP for the 6l, up from 390. TE comes with Power Prop, No tower change, Battery switch relocated up-front, accessed from panel in bow-walk through. Digital amps - smaller than previous and gives you your space back in the storage compartment. New electrics etc....Love it!!
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Old    Keith M. (kmayotte)      Join Date: Aug 2010       08-02-2011, 7:03 AM Reply   
The byerly is so rad. How did they not have side cup holders before...
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       08-02-2011, 7:10 AM Reply   
i really like the interior patterns on the Byerly..
Old    Chris (crosenhahn)      Join Date: Feb 2008       08-02-2011, 7:20 AM Reply   
I like the look of pretty much all pickle fork boats!!! Can't wait to see more pics of the Mojo!
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-02-2011, 7:31 AM Reply   
Still not sold on that tower. Looks better on the the 210 than the 230 though, for sure!
Old    Adam R (wakecumberland)      Join Date: Oct 2007       08-02-2011, 7:36 AM Reply   
The screen only dash on the Byerly boat does not invoke confidence in my mind. And its ugly.
Old    DBC (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-02-2011, 7:38 AM Reply   
Am I the only one who thinks the dash on that Nautique looks ugly?

Edit: guess not... I'm with Adam. Looks strange having it offset without anything on the left side. Totally lopsided... reminds me of this design fail:


Last edited by ixfe; 08-02-2011 at 7:42 AM.
Old    Dave H (masterDraft)      Join Date: Jan 2011       08-02-2011, 7:41 AM Reply   
on the byerly, the mirror is attached to the walk trough. guess that means you have to have it closed when moving or at minimum when someone is riding. makes no sense to exclude those gracious enough to ride in the bow on a busy boat day.
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       08-02-2011, 7:45 AM Reply   
def need to move that screen into the middle of the dash!
Old    Eric Koehler (Erkoehler)      Join Date: Apr 2011       08-02-2011, 7:50 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by masterDraft View Post
on the byerly, the mirror is attached to the walk trough. guess that means you have to have it closed when moving or at minimum when someone is riding. makes no sense to exclude those gracious enough to ride in the bow on a busy boat day.
The mirror can be mounted anywhere on the windshield frame, that would be set wherever the boat owner liked it.
Old    Eric Koehler (Erkoehler)      Join Date: Apr 2011       08-02-2011, 7:52 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by brett33 View Post
def need to move that screen into the middle of the dash!
The offset dash location is very user friendly and was found on all 2010 200 and 200v Team edition Nautiques.

I will also say that it looks better in person than it does in that picture.
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-02-2011, 8:16 AM Reply   
the new byerly is sick, but the original still blows it away.
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-02-2011, 8:40 AM Reply   
I like last year byerly boat better, but it has to be the most over priced boat out there. 120k for a 21 foot boat.........
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       08-02-2011, 8:40 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erkoehler View Post
The offset dash location is very user friendly
yeah, if you're trying to roll a doobie on the left of it..
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-02-2011, 9:01 AM Reply   
I know it's been posted before but the 12 MB's have a lot of new upgrades:

Pop up pylon
Drop in Carpet
New underwater gear (the boat handles SOOOO Much better now)
Wetsounds sound systems standard (tower speakers optional)
New diamond plate style billet accents
MB logo in floor drain
New color matched interior inserts
New vinyl patterns
(new front top deck on the F21)
New vinyl textures
Extended steps on rear of trailer for easy access into the boat
New ballast switch location
No more electric engine cover, now three gas shock assisted hatches
WArming tray
Built in storage on outside locker hatches
New metallic gel options and schemes

Overall a LOT of changes from the earlier boat I had this season.
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Old    Erik Forinash (4Nash)      Join Date: May 2011       08-02-2011, 9:14 AM Reply   
Man thats nice!
Old    Dave Gast (nautiquesonly)      Join Date: Sep 2007       08-02-2011, 10:53 AM Reply   
That looks like a nice boat! I just don't get why everybody feels the need to put giant x's on the side of the boat. Mastercraft has the X series. Seems like other companies would want to be original. Yamaha does it on their jet boats with towers. My guess this was to try and hook the uninformed consumer. "It has an X, It must be a wakeboard boat!" I like the MB and have heard nothing but good things about them, I just don't understand why they couldn't come up with something better.
Old    JV (jmvotto)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-02-2011, 12:03 PM Reply   
Nice looking boat

X is for EXTREME
Old    Chris (crosenhahn)      Join Date: Feb 2008       08-02-2011, 12:33 PM Reply   
X is better than the flames and tribal marks they used to have on all of their boats. MB does interest me, very nice interiors!
Old    Sasha.... (Sasha2)      Join Date: Nov 2010       08-02-2011, 12:45 PM Reply   
MB 23' WB black/silver with Classic gel. Mb 21' Wb black/blue classic
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Old    Timmy! (timmyb)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-02-2011, 12:51 PM Reply   
I like the carpet in that Byerly boat. Looks nice. The pattern on the swim deck looks like a jersey laid out on top of it. LOL! Still nice, just looks like someone laid out their shirt on the back of it.
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-02-2011, 1:59 PM Reply   
that 23 TWB Sasha posted is legit!
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-02-2011, 2:12 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by crosenhahn View Post
X is better than the flames and tribal marks they used to have on all of their boats. MB does interest me, very nice interiors!
Does this mean you are really a big fan of the Bayliners that have the huge tribal X graphic?
Old    Tuneman (tuneman)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-02-2011, 2:59 PM Reply   
An on-the-water pic of that last MB posted
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Old    Nick Heckerson (kstateskier)      Join Date: May 2002       08-02-2011, 6:52 PM Reply   
Great looking MB's.

To me the Moomba looks even more like a 70's Mark Twain tri-hull than a deck boat.

Last edited by kstateskier; 08-02-2011 at 6:54 PM.
Old    Nick Heckerson (kstateskier)      Join Date: May 2002       08-02-2011, 6:56 PM Reply   
'79 Picklefork
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Old    NAW (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-02-2011, 8:20 PM Reply   
Those MB's are definitely looking good!

By the way, if anyone is interested in seeing a bunch of pics of from the skiers choice dealer meeting and are on Facebook, including wake pics of the mojo, worlds editions, etc...head over and like/request/fan Lauderdale Lakes Marina and check out their pics...
Old    Brain Rinse (brainrinse)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-02-2011, 8:32 PM Reply   
Thanks, NAW! Some good pics of the MOJO in there.
Old    DBC (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-02-2011, 8:51 PM Reply   
One more 2012 MB. This one is all mine! I seriously love this boat.













More pics here: http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p...cat/?start=all
Old    Matt K (matt75)      Join Date: Nov 2010       08-03-2011, 6:09 AM Reply   
Those MB's are sweet. Was def in the top 3 for selections on a new ride. I'm in Houston and wish they had a dealership a little closer than Dallas.
Old    Jason Buffalow (buffalow)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-03-2011, 7:05 AM Reply   
Couple of other paint schemes of new MB's. More to follow
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Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       08-03-2011, 7:20 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt75 View Post
Those MB's are sweet. Was def in the top 3 for selections on a new ride. I'm in Houston and wish they had a dealership a little closer than Dallas.
The Dallas dealer is a used car lot. I wish they had a real dealer in Dallas.

MB: go talk to the Buxton guys into carrying your boats
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-03-2011, 7:29 AM Reply   
little birdie told me there is a new dealer in the area, details I'm sure to come.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       08-03-2011, 7:32 AM Reply   
what do those mb's run price wise? what kind of engines do they use?
Old    Shawn B (ShawnB)      Join Date: Oct 2010       08-03-2011, 9:28 AM Reply   
Shamelessly stolen from a fellow MC Team Talk member...

New for 2012:

* Ilmor engines only
* X80, X1 Discontinued
* ZFT2 manual 2-point tower (ZFT5p power tower optional), ZFT1/ZFT3 discontinued (except for X7)
* New helm configuration with touch screen BIG
* New glove box configuration with lock and radio mounted outside
* slightly new gel patterns, and the return of Lime Green color
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Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-03-2011, 9:58 AM Reply   
The black and silver MB on the trailer and the one on the water just looks awesome. Can anyone tell me how high the MB sits out of the water. I think it's about 31" just wasn't for sure?

Mastercraft Tower......still ugly!

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