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Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-11-2011, 1:42 PM Reply   
I am a goofy foot rider, so I ride on the darkside, I know centurion makes a reverse rotation model, but i have never seen a wave from one, and wondered how it did for the goof side rider?
Old    Dennis (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-15-2011, 2:35 PM Reply   
I guess no one else will answer. The goofy wake on the reverse rotation Enzo is very good. Similar to the regular side on the normal Enzo. The same issues for the off side on both models.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-15-2011, 2:51 PM Reply   
ok so its just like the other side looks when you reverse it?
Old    Dennis (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-15-2011, 2:58 PM Reply   
Yes indeed. I have been told by owners of reverse rotation Enzo's that the off side is better than the off side of a regular Enzo. I have no real time experience.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-15-2011, 3:05 PM Reply   
ok cool. is it still an option? I didn't see it on there website.
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-15-2011, 3:13 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by CarFanatic5 View Post
ok cool. is it still an option? I didn't see it on there website.
I believe it is still an option.

I have only seen video on centurioncrew.com. But from what I have seen, it looks exactly like a regular Enzo on the opposite side. There is actually an 09 Enzo 230 in TX for sale with the reverse prop rotation.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-15-2011, 3:15 PM Reply   
Buy an avalanche or a typhoon! Great waves on both sides
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-15-2011, 3:25 PM Reply   
ya heard avy has good waves
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-15-2011, 4:39 PM Reply   
Here is my avalanche. Great wave on both sides.
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Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-15-2011, 4:58 PM Reply   
How much weoght is in your avy?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-16-2011, 11:34 AM Reply   
Lots. I have 2-1500 custom enzo type sacs. Then I have 150 on the swim deck in a small fat brick. I later put 100#lbs of lead in it. So 250. Then I fill the center ballast tank 250#. Then I fill the surf side bow sac which is 255. Plus some people and the wave is clean and beautiful. A bunch of people have done this mod to their boats now. It's harder to get as much weight in the newer avalanches because centurion moved the engine vents and takes up a bit of the locker space that on my boat is filled with sacs. So assume roughly 2250 or so mostly surf side without people weight. I also have a custom made wakeplate of my design, custom swim deck (doesn't interfere or touch the wave).
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-16-2011, 4:55 PM Reply   
sounds like you got it perfected man! So the new avys you cant do your set up with then?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-17-2011, 4:24 PM Reply   
You can, but the sac will be a little smaller. So the wave will not be as good.
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-17-2011, 5:18 PM Reply   
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You can, but the sac will be a little smaller. So the wave will not be as good.
I think my wave is quite nice The thing that makes duffy's a little nicer IMO, is not the fact that the sacs are a little bigger (you can always add weight), but he cut his swim deck down (which I wont do) and has a custom "mud flap" knocking down some of the spray.

With that said, a stock Avy with custom sacs has one of the nicest waves on both sides on the market. However, the one thing you can not appreciate about an Enzo wave unless you have ridden one is how heavy the wave is. The Enzo I have seen does not really have a taller/longer wave, it is just heavier. Which if you are a bigger guy, makes a big difference.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-17-2011, 7:14 PM Reply   
by heaver do you mean more solid and more push?
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-18-2011, 9:44 AM Reply   
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by heaver do you mean more solid and more push?
yes. Not a big deal to me since I am not a big guy. But if you are over 220lbs, it is something to consider. With that said, I have guys riding my wave at 260lbs that have no problems. So I dont want you the Avy wave is soft, it just the Enzo wave does have more push.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-18-2011, 10:03 AM Reply   
gotcha!
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-18-2011, 11:17 AM Reply   
We have a range of riders on my boat and all can surf it( I would guess 105-260) I don't expect guys that weight 260 to be getting airs or anything, but they can still rip! Your weight makes a huge difference with how much push the wave gives you.
Old    Rebecca Ort (Becci_)      Join Date: Jun 2010       04-20-2011, 3:58 AM Reply   
we have the reverse rotation enzo and somebody else on our lake has the regular enzo. The waves are pretty identical. Usually we only fill the enzo sack plus center and people weight. The wave is good enough for us with this setup. We don't like too much hassle with filling hundreds of fat sacks and having sacks inside the boat. We do have the switchblade also. I think without the switchblade you need more weight. Our regular side needs a lot more weight. With the enzo sack plus 9-10 poeple it is really good though.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-20-2011, 7:41 AM Reply   
the switch blade is that anchor looking thing on the back?
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-21-2011, 8:34 AM Reply   
Enzo sac + Full SwitchBlade + 400# bow weight + 300# peeps @ 11.5mph via stargazer= a true 20ft pocket to play in. (add more weight for more fun)

Note: Surf-Right Enzo will look like this on the goofy side (see pics)



Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-21-2011, 9:29 AM Reply   
Sick wave bud!
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-21-2011, 9:32 AM Reply   
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Sick wave bud!
Thanks dude!

Can't wait to see your new one Duffy.

Last edited by islander033; 04-21-2011 at 9:38 AM. Reason: added
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-21-2011, 10:19 AM Reply   
Should be one of the best!
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-22-2011, 7:26 AM Reply   
how big is the switch blade? does it affect the wakeboard wake??

also what year enzo do you have?

what is the difference between the regular enzo and the new enzo plus??

Last edited by CarFanatic5; 04-22-2011 at 7:33 AM.
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-22-2011, 9:18 AM Reply   
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how big is the switch blade? does it affect the wakeboard wake??

also what year enzo do you have?

what is the difference between the regular enzo and the new enzo plus??
Switch Blade: people either love or hate the switch blade. The SB functions like the Bu wedge (ie drags back of the boat down) but it does not "tuck up out of the way) completely when you are not using it. It impact the way the boat handles and just "hangs" there when towing, etc. The SB has the most impact on the Centurion Falcon. IMO, you dont need the blade on an Enzo. As a side note, you cant even buy the SB from Centurion anymore.

Enzo vs Enzo Plus:
Mainly, the Enzo plus comes comes with a redesigned bow (much bigger) and 1,000lbs pure vert ballast system that fills in 60 sec. In addition, you can add sacs on top of that. The late 2009 and 2010/2011 Enzo also come with PCM engine. In general, the hulls have not changed in a while.

Note: The 2010/2011 Enzo also come with Pro-Vision dash (flat screen)

I believe islander's in an 07 230. He has it dialed in!
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-22-2011, 9:23 AM Reply   
These Vids are from 2010 Enzo 240 without a SB

http://wake9.com/community/content.php?342-James-Walker

http://wake9.com/community/content.p...-Keenan-Flegel

Note: there is a 2010 World Wakesurf video that I cant seem to find. It shows a 2011 Enzo Plus (both regular and reverse) as well as the finals being pulled by a Avy.

Last edited by lakesurfer; 04-22-2011 at 9:29 AM.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-22-2011, 9:26 AM Reply   
ok cool that helps a lot!
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-22-2011, 9:49 AM Reply   
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ok cool that helps a lot!
go to centurioncrew.com and you will get a lot more people provide input
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-22-2011, 11:38 AM Reply   
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how big is the switch blade? does it affect the wakeboard wake??

also what year enzo do you have?

what is the difference between the regular enzo and the new enzo plus??
Lakesurfer is correct on all accounts. You do not need the blade for a good Enzo wave, I use mine because it came with the boat. I do not tow with the blade on because it can do bad things to your expensive actuators.

Mine is a 2007 and I actually like the blade for wakeboarding.(not that I wakeboard much anymore)

Pic is full blade+400#'s of peeps at around 22mph. Even on both sides, no sacs and easy to reproduce.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-22-2011, 12:20 PM Reply   
thats super nice shape
Old    Robert Garcia (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       04-22-2011, 8:16 PM Reply   
Just a note if you can't find a reverse enzo from the factory. We interviewed Warrick Bell last year and he mentioned he switched the transmission on his boat, and made it a reverse rotation. He also mentioned it wasn't that difficult or expensive, but probably best to ask him. I would link to his site, but seems to be down.

http://wake9.com/community/content.p...h-Warrick-Bell
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-23-2011, 9:09 AM Reply   
interesteing! So it must be just some parts you can swap out maybe?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-23-2011, 10:59 AM Reply   
I think it's the v-drive you swap but I am not sure. I changed mine for a different ratio on my avalanche and it only took like 3 hours.
Old     (packrat)      Join Date: Mar 2005       04-24-2011, 12:51 AM Reply   
Dennis on your Enzo where do you put the 400# of bow weight? Do you use the bow sack or a 400# fly high sitting on the low side? Thanks
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-24-2011, 10:53 AM Reply   
I think when I'm ready to buy I have it narrowed down to enzo or rz2.. but man that is a huge pocket on that enzo..
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-24-2011, 5:55 PM Reply   
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Dennis on your Enzo where do you put the 400# of bow weight? Do you use the bow sack or a 400# fly high sitting on the low side? Thanks
I run a FlyHigh W711 (integrated bow sac) in the bow under the seats. It only fills to about 400#s due to running out of space.

http://www.fatsac.com/flyhigh/FATSACS.bifh
Old     (packrat)      Join Date: Mar 2005       04-25-2011, 12:53 AM Reply   
Did you put check valves on the lines on the bow sack and are you using the factory fill system ie: manifold or did you go with the reversible pumps?
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-25-2011, 8:52 AM Reply   
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Did you put check valves on the lines on the bow sack and are you using the factory fill system ie: manifold or did you go with the reversible pumps?
I piggy backed the bow sac off of my Enzo sac pump(s). I use ball valves for isolating it.

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