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Old    MightySAM (MightySAM)      Join Date: Aug 2010       09-14-2010, 10:29 AM Reply   
So, is a tournament set up yet?
Old    Mike (BCPMike0663)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-16-2010, 1:39 PM Reply   
I think Aaron might have been full of poo poo.
Old    Barry Waste (barry)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-17-2010, 12:04 AM Reply   
Ya think?
Old    Dan Noonan (depswa)      Join Date: Nov 2000       09-22-2010, 1:37 AM Reply   
Just got cooler'd...check this out...good thing it was a $3.00 (1,500 player) tourney...although I was pretty deep.

PokerStars Game #49988441354: Tournament #332010073, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/09/22 0:26:14 PT [2010/09/22 3:26:14 ET]
Table '332010073 68' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Kisela (23626 in chips)
Seat 3: vnimanie69 (35573 in chips)
Seat 4: jackten77 (3270 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: freebyrd1977 (13964 in chips)
Seat 6: Danswa (10777 in chips)
Seat 7: Guf_cao (14120 in chips)
Seat 8: babidawlxo (22082 in chips)
Seat 9: sunnysassy (31275 in chips)
Kisela: posts the ante 50
vnimanie69: posts the ante 50
jackten77: posts the ante 50
freebyrd1977: posts the ante 50
Danswa: posts the ante 50
Guf_cao: posts the ante 50
babidawlxo: posts the ante 50
sunnysassy: posts the ante 50
Danswa: posts small blind 200
Guf_cao: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Danswa [3s Jh]
babidawlxo: folds
sunnysassy: folds
Kisela: calls 400
vnimanie69: calls 400
jackten77: folds
freebyrd1977: folds
Danswa: calls 200
Guf_cao: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d 3h Jd]
Danswa: checks
Guf_cao: checks
Kisela: checks
vnimanie69: bets 1200
Danswa: calls 1200
Guf_cao: folds
Kisela: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [3d 3h Jd] [Qd]
Danswa: bets 1200
Kisela: calls 1200
vnimanie69: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [3d 3h Jd Qd] [9d]
Danswa: bets 3200
Kisela: raises 3200 to 6400
vnimanie69: folds
Danswa: raises 1527 to 7927 and is all-in
Kisela: calls 1527
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Danswa: shows [3s Jh] (a full house, Threes full of Jacks)
Kisela: shows [Td Kd] (a straight flush, Nine to King)
Kisela collected 25054 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25054 | Rake 0
Board [3d 3h Jd Qd 9d]
Seat 1: Kisela showed [Td Kd] and won (25054) with a straight flush, Nine to King
Seat 3: vnimanie69 folded on the River
Seat 4: jackten77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: freebyrd1977 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Danswa (small blind) showed [3s Jh] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Jacks
Seat 7: Guf_cao (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: babidawlxo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: sunnysassy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Old    Mike (BCPMike0663)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-22-2010, 9:47 AM Reply   
Dam that is painful. I know there is nothing you can do on that hand but I always find myself getting more in trouble from the small blind. Becuase I will call for pot odds and then catch a piece and get involved when I shouldn't. Not what happened in your case. Just pointing out that probably if you were not in the small blind or if someone had raised you probably would not have been involved in that hand.
Old    Dan Noonan (depswa)      Join Date: Nov 2000       09-22-2010, 11:51 AM Reply   
9 out of 10 times I will complete if it's a limped pot, unless the big blind seems to be aggressive and will raise me off every time. I hit monsters in that position quite a bit (mainly because they are concealed hands and I'm pretty good at milking a pot) and the hand above is a prime example.

If I complete and miss, it's easy to get out...I just can't believe he hit a straight flush....so sick...If anything, I was worried about a bigger boat. Either way, when that diamond hit and I was raised, my money was going in.

I have had more royal flushes than straight flushes...I've maybe had 3 straight flushes in the 7-8 years I've been playing hold'em.

I wish I saved all my hand histories...it is just ridiculous how hands play out on poker stars!!! In the same tourney at 75/150 blinds I had QQ in SB...4 limpers and a raise to 1275. I reraised to 2400 and the other guy pushed for about 5k. I had around 20k and insta-called thinking at the worst it was a race with AK. I didn't think he'd have raised so big preflop with AA or KK. Guess what happens....donkey has 88 and spikes an 8 on the flop. Same thing happened earlier when I had AA...guy reraised all-in after I led out with an 8x BB bet after 2 limpers. He had 66 and caught a 6.

Luckily I am usually able to chip up quickly and it gives me a little cushion, but come on...you can only get kicked in the nutz so many times before you turn your back right? LOL

I am going to stick to live games as far as what I risk real (or any sizeable) $$ on, but I figure I'll ocassionally do the low buy-in tourneys with big fields/payouts and hope I am the one that gets lucky some time. Definitely a ton of bullets to dodge in those tourneys, but I figure if it costs me only a few bucks to win a $1,000-2,000, I'm fine with taking a suckout.
Old    Mike (BCPMike0663)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-22-2010, 12:28 PM Reply   
I stopped playing on stars because it (beats) got so comical. I agree the people that play online for huge money are hard core. I play usually 4 dollar rush tourneys on full tilt just for fun. Quick and lots of action.
Old    Aaron (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-23-2010, 8:48 AM Reply   
Quote:
I think Aaron might have been full of poo poo.
Nope, I am telling the truth. I did cancel my pending cash out and have since lost all of it but 500. I'll going to take what I have left and run.

I had some very rough beats. Lost with AA and KK multiple times to donk straight and flush draws. It's definitely not like real poker IMO.
Old    Barry Waste (barry)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-23-2010, 9:52 AM Reply   
Aaron, that username you gave me did not exist, so it looked suspicious.

What is your username? I'm interested in seeing your stats..
Old    Aaron (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-23-2010, 11:24 AM Reply   
it's doublea2010. I am not sure why it's showing up.

I can try to get my stats from Stars and will post them.
Old    Aaron (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-23-2010, 11:30 AM Reply   
************************************************** **********
Hold'em (Real Money):

865 hands played and saw flop:
- 81 times out of 148 while in small blind (55%)
- 87 times out of 150 while in big blind (58%)
- 260 times out of 567 in other positions (46%)
- a total of 428 times out of 865 (49%)

Pots won at showdown - 83 out of 155 (54%)
Pots won without showdown - 150
************************************************** **********
Hold'em (Real Money, 1-on-1):

1134 hands played and saw flop:
- 311 times out of 568 while in small blind (55%)
- 283 times out of 566 while in big blind (50%)
- 0 times out of 0 in other positions (0%)
- a total of 594 times out of 1134 (52%)

Pots won at showdown - 96 out of 199 (48%)
Pots won without showdown - 340
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       09-23-2010, 11:45 AM Reply   
865 hands played and saw flop:
- 81 times out of 148 while in small blind (55%)
- 87 times out of 150 while in big blind (58%)


Stop playing so much OOP.
Old    Dan Noonan (depswa)      Join Date: Nov 2000       09-23-2010, 12:04 PM Reply   
LOL Paul...that's what I was thinking...

Aaron, I havent checked my stats, but I think I see an average of less than 20% of flops and that is even probably higher than it should be. But, I can justify it because I play pretty aggressively and am pretty good post-flop. I'll play my KQoff like AK or AQ and get people off of their hands a lot of times (even if they have the same hand!). If you aren't comfortable reraising and check-raising based on your reads...tighten up your preflop range of hands...Although...even then you are gonna get the internet suckouts...so who knows...maybe that is the key to being successful online...play everything and hit monsters?
Old    Aaron (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-23-2010, 1:39 PM Reply   
i have less than 2000 hands so of course my stats are going to be high.

I'm very new to PS but it seems like you go on streaks a lot. I had a couple of days where I couldnt lose. After the cash out I went to losing pretty much every hand I stayed in.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       09-23-2010, 1:51 PM Reply   
Most players' $EV would increase pretty drastically if they were forced to fold or raise from the blinds with no option to call.
Old    Barry Waste (barry)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-23-2010, 3:18 PM Reply   
Aaron,
Yeah, that user name doesn't work on any tracking site. You're withholding information.
Old    Mike (BCPMike0663)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-23-2010, 4:41 PM Reply   
Paul I think I am gonna try your strategy from the SB and see what happens. Only raise or fold no calling and see how that works out. Do you still think EV would increase if i am playing rush tourneys with that strategy?
Old    Aaron (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-23-2010, 7:05 PM Reply   
Barry, which site are you using?
Old    Barry Waste (barry)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-23-2010, 10:29 PM Reply   
OPR, PPL, SS are the three I tried, when you didn't show up on any of them I knew the user name wasn't correct.
Old    MightySAM (MightySAM)      Join Date: Aug 2010       09-30-2010, 12:11 PM Reply   
Many hands can beat ya, STOP CRYIN! Pocket J's, Pocket Q's, Pocket 9's, 3-Q...
Old    Dan Noonan (depswa)      Join Date: Nov 2000       09-30-2010, 1:54 PM Reply   
HA! No sh|t Sherlock...Obviously I didn't have the nuts, but the way the hand was played, my read was right that he had his flush on the turn then when he makes a call where I have him dominated, he hits a 1-outer for a straight flush. One card in the deck and he hits it...If you don't think that's a bad beat, hat's off to ya.

Plus, If he had JJ or QQ and plays decent poker, he'd have raised preflop and I would've been out of the hand.

Last edited by depswa; 09-30-2010 at 1:55 PM. Reason: typo
Old    Mike (BCPMike0663)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-30-2010, 2:20 PM Reply   
Dan didn't you know the mighty sam is all knowing? I am sure he is a pro poker player. I like how he points out you don't have the nuts when anyone with a half a brain knows that.
Old    Dan Noonan (depswa)      Join Date: Nov 2000       09-30-2010, 5:41 PM Reply   
It's all good...I guess my post was meant more for intermediate to advanced players to evaluate. Not someone that points out that a 4 of a kind could possibly have been beat by a straight flush...lol

Last edited by depswa; 09-30-2010 at 5:41 PM. Reason: typo again..I type with my thumbs!

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