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Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       02-28-2010, 8:53 PM Reply   
Considering this boat along with an Enzo 230, Tige 22ve, and maybe a used X-30. What are your thoughts? Family boat for 5, dog, plus friends. Wakesurfing, wakeboarding, tubing...

http://www.skisupreme.com/models/226.html

http://www.hillside-honda.com/photog...V226/album.asp

Thanks
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-28-2010, 9:48 PM Reply   
The Enzo, Tige and Supreme will have great waves. The supreme v226 and the enzo-avalanche share a similar hull design. The same guy designed both. The supreme is just deeper(deepest in the industry) and has a larger top cap. This means bigger custom sacs and a nice big waves. Same basicallly goes for the enzo (which is an amazing surf boat). The mastercraft is an amazing wakeboard boat and an ok surf boat.

Which is the most important feature for you? If it's wakeboarding then go with the mastercraft. If it's surfing again the Enzo, Tige and supreme will be great.
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-01-2010, 9:14 AM Reply   
Thanks for the input. Surfing is probably #1, along with the kids learning to wakeboard, surf and tubing. I hope to get some demo rides in the next couple weeks if the weather cooperates.
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 9:53 AM Reply   
I really dig the new V226. It has an incredible surf wake and the wakeboard wake is pretty good too. I would describe it as a steeper version of the xstar. Very meaty with a little bit of a lip to it. Very fun
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 10:24 AM Reply   
V226 could be the greatist wakesurf boat out. With custom enzo sacs and some time dialing in the wave. But to my knowledge no one has done this yet. The enzo and the Tige have been proven to have great waves. If you surf both sides I would go with the Tige or the V226. If you just surf the port or regular side I would go with the enzo. All these boats are amazing good luck!
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 11:11 AM Reply   
We have had the surf wake more than dialed behind the 226 every time I have been out in it. I actually found it very easy to dial it in. The first time out a year ago we were surfing at 17 mph and way back on the wave.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 2:18 PM Reply   
Post some v226 pictures. I would love to see more. Or even better would be some video. Please post what weight you are running etc.. Thanks
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       03-01-2010, 4:46 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by duffymahoney View Post
Post some v226 pictures. I would love to see more. Or even better would be some video. Please post what weight you are running etc.. Thanks
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Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 4:55 PM Reply   
Here are 2 pics of possible color options on the optional all in gel color that is offered. The other 2 pics the boat is loaded as follows: rear stock ballast full, additional 350 v-drive sac in the locker, one 350 v-drive sac under the passenger side seats as full as possible, another 350 v-drive sac in the passenger compartment, and another 350 v-drive sac in the bow. Only 3 people in the boat
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Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 5:06 PM Reply   
Last picture looks like a turn? Any more pictures? I got supreme to measure for a custom enzo type sacs and it was going to be huge! I think like 1800 or so pounds. If and when it's time for a new boat I am going to look at the v226. Where is the cooler? I know that sounds dumb but it's very important to me
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 5:15 PM Reply   
Cant find anymore pics right now but I know there are some more floating around that I should be able to get my hands on.

That last pic looks like it was on a slight turn based on the prop wash but it was pretty slow anyways so its not really a good representation. it was all I had so I posted it.

There are 2 coolers in the bow, one on each side under the seats. And no, it doesn't sounds dumb, at least not to me. Hahaha
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 5:45 PM Reply   
This was 2 weeks ago at lake yosemeti I believe
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Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 5:54 PM Reply   
Sick! What speed is that?
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 6:05 PM Reply   
Couldnt tell ya. I wasnt there. My buddy just sent me that picture.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 6:11 PM Reply   
Keep the pictures coming!
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-01-2010, 7:34 PM Reply   
Wow! Impressive
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 8:30 PM Reply   
This boat has the potential to be the best surf boat out. Love the pictures, thanks!
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 10:33 PM Reply   
Yea unfortunately I was not there the day they took that last pic I posted but from the looks of it they could have loaded the front down more and made that huge wave twice as long
Old    Andrew Taft (taft)      Join Date: Jul 2006       03-01-2010, 11:54 PM Reply   
I was gonna say the wave looks pretty stubby, but ya maybe weight up front would help out quite a bit.
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-02-2010, 9:17 AM Reply   
What do you think? I hope the price is right...

Picture courtesy of Lynnwood Motoplex (WA)
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Last edited by rrw71; 03-02-2010 at 9:20 AM. Reason: Added dealer note.
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-02-2010, 12:40 PM Reply   
WOW! I havent seen that color combo. Looks super sick. I think that just sold me on the in gel paint. Super clean.
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       03-02-2010, 1:57 PM Reply   
The biggest problems with that boat is the dash. I dont think they could make it uglier if they tried. Surf wake looks like it has a lot of potential!
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-02-2010, 5:29 PM Reply   
The current dash is being completely re-designed so dont get too hung up on how horrible the dash is right now. I saw the digital rendition of the new dash and its pretty sick. Very modern, clean and functional
Old    Brian (TXSurf) (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-02-2010, 6:07 PM Reply   
After seeing that last pic, I'd be interested to see what that wake would like with some more bow weight. Looks crazy steep, but it looks very promising. These are the first pics I've ever even seen of anyone surfing a supreme
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-02-2010, 6:59 PM Reply   
Anyone have a pic of the new dash? I'm sure it's different than the 11/08 post...
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-02-2010, 7:16 PM Reply   
As of right now there is only a digital rendition of the new dash. From what I understand the mold for it is being made right now.
Old    Jay T. (wakebrdjay)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-02-2010, 10:28 PM Reply   
My V 212 wake.
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Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-03-2010, 5:52 AM Reply   
Nice. How is it loaded?

BTW - I got to do a demo ride on a 2010 Enzo 230 with tab. Nice boat, but wasn't able to get anything that looked surfable with 2 people and stock balast(4 tanks).
Old    jkw (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       03-03-2010, 12:19 PM Reply   
^^^^^^^ Why would you think you are going to get a good surf wake with stock ballast. Four tanks and no Switch Blade is only about 500 lbs on each side. I dont think you can get a good surf wake on any boat with stock ballast. You have to put to much weight on one side to surf and I cant imagine any boat maker is going to do that. However, take that Enzo 230 and add 1,500lb Enzo sacs and Switch Blade and you will have a very solid surf wake.
Old    Travis Q (motogod77)      Join Date: Aug 2008       03-04-2010, 9:46 AM Reply   
I've surfed the 226 a lot and the boat really likes weight since it is so big/deep. I can ride all day with the stock ballast, but the thing really comes alive with about 2500 lbs and I can't wait to dial the thing in with a switchblade. I think the 226 is superior to the Enzo considering price and what you get for your dollar.
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-05-2010, 3:44 PM Reply   
Does an Enzo Sack fit in the 226?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-05-2010, 3:51 PM Reply   
You just need a custom version of the enzo sac. The lockers are much bigger then the enzo's.
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-05-2010, 7:54 PM Reply   
I have been using the FlyHigh V-drive sacks in the 226 and they have been working great. They fill just about the entire V-drive compartment up.
Old    James Harold (jdjjamesz)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-06-2010, 6:00 PM Reply   
Hey jason where does your buddy live that sent you that picture I wan to go try that wake and do a write up on that boat.
Old    Ricardo (gunz)      Join Date: Sep 2001       03-06-2010, 6:19 PM Reply   
Wake envy
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-06-2010, 11:05 PM Reply   
James- I tried sending you a PM but I think there are still a few glitches in the new WW site. Email me and we can figure something out. callenj@ymail.com
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-09-2010, 7:22 AM Reply   
If they could change the graphics on the boat, and the interior and dash then i might look at it. They are trying to just to WAYYYYY too much with the graphics and it just makes you dizzy!
Old    Brian (TXSurf) (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-09-2010, 7:56 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by desotodave View Post
If they could change the graphics on the boat, and the interior and dash then i might look at it. They are trying to just to WAYYYYY too much with the graphics and it just makes you dizzy!
I agree with you that thats not my first choice either. But they do offer quite a few other options when it comes to graphics
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-09-2010, 8:33 AM Reply   
Oh yeah one other general comment. I have a Centurion Enzo and it only has like 40-45 gallons of fuel. My buddy's X30 has 80 or ninety. When we go to Lake Powell we sometimes drive and hour or 2 just to find the glass. Just the round trip uses up half my fuel. Seems to make sense to me that you would put larger tanks in these boats not only for range, and need to refuel on a long day, but for weight as well!!!

Anyone with me on this?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-15-2010, 8:17 PM Reply   
Keep the wave pictures coming! I want to see what this boat can do.
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-16-2010, 2:21 PM Reply   
In about a month I should have some new pics ready to post, NEW DASH included. The next time we get one out were going to re-prop is and really see what this beast can do.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-16-2010, 3:03 PM Reply   
You should get custom enzo type sacs for it.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-28-2010, 7:36 PM Reply   
Any more pictures?
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-16-2010, 2:29 PM Reply   
Here's some. I've been told the dash has been revised a couple more times, so this is not going to be the exact dash. I hope to see the final design soon. I wonder what the swim step will look like? Should be another week or two till I get to see the first delivery.
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Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-16-2010, 2:37 PM Reply   
That is one crazy deep boat! Can't wait to see it with custom enzo type surf sacs. I think it's gonna make everything else lame!
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-16-2010, 3:31 PM Reply   
I'm can't wait to do a demo...
Old    Brian (TXSurf) (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-16-2010, 4:55 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by duffymahoney View Post
That is one crazy deep boat! !
That made me stop and stare when I got to that picture. Thats a very deep hull

I agree with the potential for this boat. Especially with that one pic above.
Old    Travis Q (motogod77)      Join Date: Aug 2008       04-16-2010, 5:43 PM Reply   
^^^^^ - Agreed Duffy - I had a demo V226 last year and ran it against an Enzo with the same weight and it does make everything else look lame. Our next one is being built as we speak - can't wait for its arrival!
Old    Dennis (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-17-2010, 10:04 AM Reply   
I heard a rumor that there will be a V226 at the Wake9 wakesurf festival in May.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-17-2010, 11:06 AM Reply   
That would be sweet! Someone really needs to spend some time dialing it in take some notes on weight, location etc....
Old    Dennis (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-17-2010, 11:17 AM Reply   
I think that is the plan before the event. I will be dialing it in hopefully prior to the event.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-17-2010, 12:43 PM Reply   
Sacs or lead? Do you access to an enzo sac? The lockers are much bigger then an enzo but the sac would be a great start.
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-18-2010, 1:20 PM Reply   
Love the dash render. If they can make it look like that in reality then they have a winner IMO
Old    J B (bjeremi)      Join Date: Mar 2006       04-19-2010, 10:37 AM Reply   
Anybody have any idea on the wakeboarding wake?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-19-2010, 10:52 AM Reply   
Wakeboarding magazine said it was great. It was included in the reviews edition.
Old    Bret Ski (younguns44)      Join Date: Jan 2010       04-26-2010, 8:58 PM Reply   
go with x30
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-26-2010, 9:06 PM Reply   
What, X30? This supreme is the deepest boat out. Should be awesome! Any more pictures?
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-26-2010, 9:53 PM Reply   
What a Mastecraft X30? Ha ha ha. Great insight, I think you are in the wrong place, try mymastercraft.com.
Old    David (colombiansurfer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-27-2010, 10:42 AM Reply   
Holy **** that wake is huge!!! I have to agree with duffy in that that just might be the largest wake out there for now.
Old    Dennis (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-27-2010, 11:50 AM Reply   
I won't buy into it until it pulls a competition or two and see what the pros think about it.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-27-2010, 11:57 AM Reply   
Yeah for sure. Dennis said on this thread that wake9 might get to test one. I talked to one of the designers and it's deeper then an enzo and the deep part of the hull starts sooner on the boat thus displacing more water. The angles are a mix between an enzo and an avalanche. The designer was also the enzo designer, which is a huge plus in my book. Lockers will hold a 1800 pound enzo type fat sac. At least that's from my measurements. I can't wait to see what this boat can do.
Old    Dennis (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-27-2010, 3:51 PM Reply   
Actually the testing will be done for California Marine Sports in Suisun. They will be using the Supreme to pull their board demos at the Festival.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-27-2010, 4:54 PM Reply   
Are you going to help weight it?
Old    Dennis (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-27-2010, 7:30 PM Reply   
Yes I will be the one weighting it. and getting it dialed in. The festival will be pulled by Tige 2010 RZ2. We have two identical boats coming from the factory one for each side.
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-29-2010, 8:02 AM Reply   
So, what is the deal with this boat. I have seen a couple pictures, it is on their web site, but does not seem like it is readily available? Has anyone actually surfed behind this boat, or seen anything but promotional info? I would like to see a few NON FACTORY people just go out for a day and try it out.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 8:06 AM Reply   
David, I think Dennis is one of the best people out to test this boat. Take lots of pictures and notes. It might be weight sensitive like the Avy?
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-29-2010, 9:37 AM Reply   
Just weird to me that they "launched" the boat in November of 2008 (18 months ago) and we don't really have any good feedback from owners. Did they launch the boat, and then not make any?

From the Supreme website:

11/18/08

THE BOAT OF THE YEAR IS FINALLY HERE!

2009 will be the most exciting year Supreme Boats has ever embarked on.

The New highly anticipated V226 is completed! The design team developed the V226 from a clean sheet of paper. We now have snap out carpet / swivel drivers seat and a ride that is second to none. The 226 has the deepest V on the market today! Also the V226 has been engineered to have the most stable wake platform ever created with the most advanced styling in the industry. The team of engineers has developed what other companies could not, a 22 ft boat that has more interior room than a 24. We are very proud of our R&D departments' effort in making sure everything is exactly how we wanted it. Schedule your test drive today.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 9:45 AM Reply   
I have talked to a few. Also a wakeboard-surf school in europe has one. Supreme isn't a huge company. I think it will take time, and remember that the last couple of years have been very very tough on the boat manu's. A dealer in Lynnwood WA is getting one. My local dealer also might get one.
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-29-2010, 11:40 AM Reply   
I have also heard rumors about a local dealer getting them, but it all seems so quite. If you have a boat that is the "Boat of the Year" it should be out there and getting more pub. You thinking of getting one?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 12:08 PM Reply   
Well only if I could get enough out of my Avalanche. Maybe next year. I think this design with it's depth will be the new standard. Safer boats for as much weight as we run.
Old    Who Cares (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-29-2010, 12:31 PM Reply   
Does anyone have a contact for the lynwood washington dealer? I live here in the state and have done a few reviews for malibu. I would be more than willing to put one together for the supreme. let me know if anyone has an in.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 2:41 PM Reply   
Lynnwood Motolpex.

425 774 0505
Old    Who Cares (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-29-2010, 7:07 PM Reply   
LMAO! Thanx Duffy I know that much. I was wondering if any one had a personal relationship with one of the people working there. When I did the reviews for Malibu it was spured by a sales man and had to be blessed by the owner. Then when Malibu found out about it we were doing the 23lsv a month later. I will give them a call and see what they have to say.
Old    Robert Garcia (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       04-29-2010, 8:25 PM Reply   
Wow, that looks like a nice wake, and a nice boat. Does anyone know what they cost? roughly? Sorry if I am missing it, I know I have been away for a bit.
Old    Jay T. (wakebrdjay)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-30-2010, 4:42 AM Reply   
There was 1 on Onlyinboards listed at $49,999.00.
Old    Who Cares (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-30-2010, 8:40 AM Reply   
Ok Lynwood moto plex has Email. lets see if they will let us review it!

Ragboy if you do a search you will find that it looks like only 4 have been built or at least I cant find anymore then 4 different gel styles.
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-30-2010, 12:43 PM Reply   
That kind of makes sense that only a few boats have been built. I have looked for one for sale, tried to find pictures etc. but it seems like they don't really exist. I think that is so strange where 18 months ago they were supposedly voted BOAT OF THE YEAR. You would think they would capitalize on that press. I understand the market has tanked, and don't blame them if they put off true production of the boat, just curious about the boat.

Seems like there are a group of people on here who are interested as well, if someone works for Supreme fee free to jump in here and let us all know the scoop!!!
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-30-2010, 12:56 PM Reply   
I talked to the ceo. He is suppose to get me more info.
Old    david pierce (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-30-2010, 1:06 PM Reply   
Funny!! I just called too!
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-30-2010, 2:15 PM Reply   
I usually email him. What did he say?

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