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Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-09-2010, 4:05 PM Reply   
i just read in alliance wake mag that collin harrington, jd webb, dallas friday, andrew adams, and jeff house all had injuries recently and had to undergo surgery?

does any one know how they all got hurt?

i know andrew adams and jeff house tore their ACL. but what about everyone else?
Old    Andrew Moreton (andrew_moreton)      Join Date: Feb 2003       07-09-2010, 4:13 PM Reply   
JD had meniscus surgery but got cleared to start riding again this week. I was with him all weekend and he was looking forward to riding again after a few weeks off with recovery.
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       07-09-2010, 4:22 PM Reply   
I know I heard harrington blew out his knee, but I didn't know any details.
Old    Kat Laird (wakekat15)      Join Date: Jul 2005       07-09-2010, 4:36 PM Reply   
Dallas blew her MCL, PCL & ACL in her right (previously good) leg on a tantrum to blind.
Old    Andrew Moreton (andrew_moreton)      Join Date: Feb 2003       07-09-2010, 4:37 PM Reply   
And Dallas got hurt at the Dallas (TX) PWT stop. Think she torn most the ligaments in her knee.
Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-09-2010, 4:43 PM Reply   
damn... that's knee injury number three for harrington
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-09-2010, 4:57 PM Reply   
Andrew Adams is making Alliance talking about pro injuries??? This is one sport where the term pro is pretty spot on an accurate with the riders that have been deemed pro. Andrew Adams does crazy stunts and is pretty good on rails (not a standout if you throw him in the daily odub line up, there is always 3-4 dudes like norbi who shreds the park WAY harder than him all around ie rails, kickers, flats and Norbi isn't considered pro), but that's about it. To go on a tangent and back to Norbi not being "pro", hyperlite should definitely sign him for his video skills as there exclusive videographer along with his cable riding which is definitely pro caliber for their Pro Cable Team. He is sponsored by Hyperlite already. Now as for Andrew Adams, I'd like to see some video of him riding the wake just for curiosity purposes. It wasn't even 5 years ago when spinning on a slider was considered a big no no like kids trying to spin 1080s on the table which let me add was not an easy thing to do, but now with the flex boards, it is cool to spin on rails as long as you are "pressing" it? Take an oliie 270 to front board "tail press" to 450 rail spin with maybe a tail tap at the end is now some eye dropping move. With a long history of hitting rails myself, on both normal core boards and flex boards, it is much more personally gratifying to hold a long press on a rail, than spinning until i hit the water while putting some weight over my front foot so the board flexes. Once you are on the rail, it doesn't matter which way you are spinning either ie toeside front board to say a backside 450 for a total of a ts backside 540 on the rail is now considered a pro rail hit if you add a little press in it. I don't know, i just have a hard time calling the guys that are hitting winch gaps as professional wakeboarders.
Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-09-2010, 5:11 PM Reply   
well, i just think adams and the shredtown guys give variety and style a new meaning because of the organic set ups, unique lines, and gnarly gaps they hit. props to them because they are bringing winching to a new level. wakeboarding has come a very long way since riding behind the boat and now everyone is creating their own style whether it be cable, winch, boat, etc. i definitely support those guys for what they are doing for the sport especially because they work just as hard as any of the pros out there and killing it!

plus they are dirt poor college kids making it in this sport.... which i can relate to cause i am dirt poor struggling to ride... and pay for gas, hahahah.

Last edited by adamsilcio; 07-09-2010 at 5:15 PM.
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-09-2010, 5:18 PM Reply   
Kyle, I agree with you. Im kinda sick of infinity spins on rails. wakeboards just seem so boring on rails
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-10-2010, 1:34 PM Reply   
Rukus, they definitely aren't dirt poor. do you remember the videos they first started posting from
that house in Texas with the two really long docks that they were able to build sliders in between? the house had to be 8000+ sq feet. People spend a lot of money to look "poor". have you ever been to urban outfitters? lol
some of the spots they hit are very very very cool and when i see the videos I always wish I could
get a hit on one of those gaps. their originality is definitely commendable and it must be adrenaline rush to be the first one to get to hit the spot not knowing what to expect and it is even more impressive that this is the first big injury and it didn't even happen on one of their gaps but what should be a controlled environment at a contest. home built rails are just more dangerous because we don't generally put side protection making it very easy to get closelined. I've been there followed by a trip to the Urgent Care to get a CT of my abdomen because the doc thought I damaged my kidney
or spleen. if I were to have hit it with my legs I would have been sure to blow a knee. it just seems
like if you have a friend that is good at editing and a crew that has good skills (which there are plenty of) all you have to do is make a blog and keep it updated and you get pro status in this sport.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-13-2010, 7:27 AM Reply   
but you can buy all their t shirts now, and look just like them
Old    CASEY TUTTLE (BCMWAKE61209)      Join Date: Apr 2010       07-13-2010, 8:01 AM Reply   
Wait I'm a pro now cause I edit and post vids???? Cmon guys..... Seriously???? Thanks for making me laugh tho!!
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-13-2010, 9:39 AM Reply   
that was not their point, but whatever makes you laugh
Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-13-2010, 9:46 AM Reply   
I don't necessarily think they are getting a paycheck from slingshot. I know they are getting boards and gear but I don't believe they have a pro contract. Whether it's editing and posting vids or just killing it in the winch scene, they are apparently earning the respect of the professional athletes in this sport..... Enough for those same pros to want to ride with the shred town crew. I agree they have no business being on the pro tour or anything like that.. But as the saying goes, they really do get in where they fit in.

They are definitely setting an example for freeriders everywhere.
Old    John Marshall (JohnM)      Join Date: Apr 2010       07-13-2010, 10:13 AM Reply   
If being a pro wakeboarder is about bringing exposure to the products you ride and developing a personal brand then few are doing as good a job as the Shredtown crew. It's not enough just to ride well unless you find yourself on top of the podium every weekend. Look at what Chad Sharpe has done with his blogspot, when was the last time he *podiumed*? Everyone is watching and that matters for the companies that can support a pro team. The guerrilla style videos clips are going to pave the way for a lot of the pros of the next 5 years.



*Chad is a great rider and I ride the Viva Sintered Base and I have nothing but respect for what he has accomplished*
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       07-13-2010, 10:17 AM Reply   
So....um... about these people getting hurt. Not cool. At all. What is this Pro word?
Old    gangstar (joe_crawley)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-13-2010, 10:42 AM Reply   
Sucks about the injuries.

Hey Kyle, Andrew got an alliance cover. Hope that clears up your confusion.
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       07-13-2010, 12:53 PM Reply   
john m nailed it.....its not about contests as much anymore. but they still pay the bills lol
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       07-13-2010, 7:32 PM Reply   
This is the funniest **** ever.... Kyle_L keep stroking your wainer

Last edited by ghettofab; 07-13-2010 at 7:35 PM.
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       07-13-2010, 9:11 PM Reply   
I have mucho respect for the shredtown guys, that is all.
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       07-14-2010, 5:14 AM Reply   
i concur with that. you dont need 10+ mobes to be pro. hell you dont really even need switch tricks. (i.e. Kyle Ratray)
Old    Charles (wakecis)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-14-2010, 7:59 AM Reply   
you don't need 10+ mobes, but at a minimum you need a 9 off the wake. with that said, plenty of riders over the years have learned how to play the contest game and do better than their board-riding ability would have predicted. it's easy to learn 10 tricks and have plenty of weak parts to your riding.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       07-14-2010, 11:04 AM Reply   
This is way off on a tangent, but being pro really has little to do with your riding ability. There are a ton of great riders out there. Even guys that can hang with the top pros, but being a pro is about lifestyle. It's about being professional. Being paid to perform on gameday, talk to fans, travel and promote their sponsors..... There is a ton more to being pro than just riding.

Props to the Shredtown guys for doing their thing. More props to them if they've acheived pro status for hitting some sketchy stuff that the top money makers might not want to touch.
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-14-2010, 9:08 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettofab View Post
This is the funniest **** ever.... Kyle_L keep stroking your wainer
Hey DC, I have been pretty much the only person who has stuck up for you on ws.com when they all decided they pretty much blacklisted you from their community which in turn IS a large part of the wakeskating community with a large percentage of pros who frequently post that hate you. I then posted videos for you on the other site so it didn't look like you were advertising your own sh*t and actually got some people to check your stuff/website out (which was pretty good). So how bout you don't bite the hand that feeds you. I'm allowed to say whatever I want about who I think should be considered and given pro recognition in this sport as this is a public forum and that's what it is for, public opinion. Yeah, I think Andrew pushes the sport hard doing daredevilish acts that I probably wouldn't do, and I give him props for that but there are other guys out there that are barely getting any coverage in the mags while placing consistently in pro tour events. It's become more about hooking your friends up with mag shots than it has giving the guys that are really pushing the sport an opportunity to get their name out there. Look at guys like Marc Shuster, Diego Shaw, CK Koester, Lior Sofer, Matty Hasler (kid stuck a 12 and like 3 different 10s off of a kicker), Tom Fooshee, (finally starting to get credit) for cable and then guys like Dean Smith, Bryan Hutton, Josh Palma, Kyle Rattray, PHILLIP SOVEN and tons of other guys that are brushed aside for a picture of a guy sliding down a waterfall. That is cool and all but give any of those guys 3 tries and they would stick it without flinching. I would much rather see one of the cable guys doing some crazy flats trick or a boosted kicker trick then a winch gap.

Wakeboarding has always been political but man has it gotten worse when it comes to the mags. If you aren't a long haired pseudo-hippie, your chance of getting a shot is like winning the lottery (yes i know marc got a spread last wakeboarding mag who is more open to all riders). Cable is becoming almost as big as boat in the US and there might be one cable shot per magazine. The fact of the matter is, not that many people actually own winches nor make that their primary method of riding. Dropping $1500 on a winch to hit a gap is fine and dandy when your sponsors pay for your tickets but it just isn't the case in the real scene. But regardless, good luck in your future endeavors and i hope you don't burn too many bridges.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       07-15-2010, 1:19 AM Reply   
This thread was a good late night read. :-)

Kyle don't let keyboard cowboys like DC get to you. They come and they go. All sports are political, wakeboarding is no exception. What's a long haired pseudo hippie? I should probably look for some so I can get more shots published. Also where's this real scene? I haven't ridden in weeks and I'm desperate need of a set.
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       07-15-2010, 5:10 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakecis View Post
you don't need 10+ mobes, but at a minimum you need a 9 off the wake. with that said, plenty of riders over the years have learned how to play the contest game and do better than their board-riding ability would have predicted. it's easy to learn 10 tricks and have plenty of weak parts to your riding.
very true
Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-15-2010, 11:08 AM Reply   
Dano the Mano needs to turn pro
Old    oneoffpost (oneoffpost)      Join Date: Jul 2008       07-15-2010, 5:13 PM Reply   
ha ha this cracks me up, for years people have a beef that the only people getting to make a living are contest pro's, then Alliance comes around and tries to show a little love for the freeriders and you're complaining that freeriders are getting too much recognition and shouldn't be deemed "pro's".
Lets face it, there are very few people considered "pro" in wakeboarding that aren't propped up by rich parents and that truly stand on their own two feet and pay their own way so whining that a bunch of cable riders have more skills than the Shredtown crew is kind of like apples and oranges don't ya think? The contest cable riders are just that and the Shredtown crew are freeriders that are just doing their own thing. Now answer this question, what do you think looks better as a magazine front cover, a single shot of a cable rider spinning a 12 off a kicker (which in case you're missing the point could be a picture of almost anything) or somebody dropping some gnarly gap in a location thats never been seen before? I shouldn't think the Shredtown guys would lose too much sleep over whether they are deemed "pro" by some internet "experts" and I shouldn't think that contest cable riders like Shuster or whoever would want to be used as a stick to beat down riders that they probably have a lot of respect for. Kyle I think that you should probably take your negative attitudes and personal disappointment at not making it as a "pro" despite your long and illustrious railriding past and whine to someone who cares...
Oh and to get back on topic, yeah it sucks that so many people are hurt at the moment!
Old    oneoffpost (oneoffpost)      Join Date: Jul 2008       07-15-2010, 5:18 PM Reply   
Oh and to correct something else, just because winch riding is irrelevant to you don't underestimate the amount of people (mostly skaters) that only get to ride a winch. $1500 is a lot more affordable between 4 mates than a boat costing 30 times that amount and I would suggest to you that the majority of winching is done by people who don't have any sponsors.
Did you actually think before you made that statement? I kind of doubt it.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-16-2010, 9:55 AM Reply   
4 mates and a winch. Sounds like a name for a porno
Old    Brian Reeder (Reeder)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-16-2010, 10:53 AM Reply   
Kyle Hate= Love!
Old    oneoffpost (oneoffpost)      Join Date: Jul 2008       07-16-2010, 1:37 PM Reply   
A-dub someone should get Norbi on that!
Old    Arun Frances (poon)      Join Date: Dec 2001       07-18-2010, 12:54 AM Reply   
No one should say they are Pro unless it is their career... getting checks on a consistent basis from their sponsors. I guess there are some people that are turned Pro by their parents (sponsors). "Here you go son/daughter.... a New Boat, Caddy Escalade, Gas Card, and a New ERA Hat to wear sideways so you look cool... now go out there and ride every day for 2 years and you will be Pro".
Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-18-2010, 1:48 AM Reply   
Quote:
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No one should say they are Pro unless it is their career... getting checks on a consistent basis from their sponsors. I guess there are some people that are turned Pro by their parents (sponsors). "Here you go son/daughter.... a New Boat, Caddy Escalade, Gas Card, and a New ERA Hat to wear sideways so you look cool... now go out there and ride every day for 2 years and you will be Pro".

hahahahahaha

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