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Old    Chris Johnson (team_o)      Join Date: Jun 2002       08-10-2010, 3:01 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakerider111 View Post
looks like the base plate changed most for obrien. but its quick shots on the video, so hard to say. baseless maybe, like so many companies are going?
They are not entirely baseless...
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       08-10-2010, 3:07 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakerider111 View Post
i forgot to include the source of the photos. http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.p...65227&p=662524
which is the source of a quote that i guess describes how they maintain flex, which is all based on the fact that they are BASELESS --> "The RAD Boot binding is a baseless system that will allow the board to flex naturally and decrease some overall weight which is always a added bouns."
how exactly are the RAD bindings "baseless"? judging by the pics you posted, they look far from "baseless".
Old    English (kristian)      Join Date: Nov 2002       08-11-2010, 12:12 AM Reply   
The same way ronix are baseless. Look at the photo that looks down into the boot and you'll see the board graphic.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       08-11-2010, 12:17 AM Reply   
oh, ok...gotcha. now i'm even more convinced i don't wanna try slingshot's new bindings w/ no footbeds (again).
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-11-2010, 2:08 AM Reply   
http://www.activewake.com/wake/vests.html

Billabong 2011 vests
Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-11-2010, 4:05 AM Reply   
those are 2010 billabong vests in the link
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       08-11-2010, 6:12 AM Reply   
Any word on jimmys board release?
Old    Justin Thompson (tchs22)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-11-2010, 6:53 AM Reply   
here are some from seafair....looks like JD and Murray have new boards
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Old    Colby Frost (dhv142)      Join Date: Oct 2008       08-11-2010, 10:07 AM Reply   
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Old    Colby Frost (dhv142)      Join Date: Oct 2008       08-11-2010, 10:09 AM Reply   
The new bill
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Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-11-2010, 4:09 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dakid View Post
oh, ok...gotcha. now i'm even more convinced i don't wanna try slingshot's new bindings w/ no footbeds (again).
Joe, I understand the past years of slingshot boots have had thin and or quite stiff footbeds ('07 the footbed was thin and inside the liner, '08-'09 it was inside the shell and acted as a base/hardware for bolts and was not the squishiest by anymeans, but that was also a benefit for a few people who needed a more solid footbed because of injuries or whatever.)

i don't know for sure, but it looks to me that the footbed is inside the liner, or rather attached to the bottom of the liner. I think (don't know for sure) that the entire blue layer is the footbed. check the pics again... would that not be enough room to put a foot inside minus the blue layer? looking at the pic of the toe-box zoomed in, you can see the stitches that typically sewed the bottom of the heat-formed liner to the top piece. the blue part has to be the footbed. which if it is it is a pretty thick one and definately different than past models. the bottom translucent grey piece is the tread

again, another quote from the source of the pics -> (though it does not mention "footbed")

"Think linner with a somewhat real sole for protection while out of your boots and plushness for stompin landings. The sole is is your base."

Last edited by wakerider111; 08-11-2010 at 4:12 PM.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       08-11-2010, 4:51 PM Reply   
jeremy, (please don't take this as me being combative towards you ) i'm not so sure the benefits outweigh the risk. i don't know about you, but i've had heel bruises from riding. let me tell you; they're not fun at all, which is why i prefer bindings w/ thick and soft footbeds. i don't mean to come off as arrogant in saying this, but i like to go big. and when i do, i like knowing that my board, as well as the footbeds in my bindings, will help to absorb a lot of the shock of the landings. i'm not saying that slingshot riders don't go big or they don't like to go big. they all go big! like i said though, i've bruised my heel before and want to try to avoid that as much as possible. and as infrequent as i ride, i would hate to ruin one of my rides w/ a heel bruise, which in turn would keep me from riding a few weeks after.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wakerider111 View Post
"Think linner [sic] with a somewhat real sole for protection while out of your boots and plushness for stompin landings. The sole is is your base."
welcome to marketing.
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       08-11-2010, 5:38 PM Reply   
that new b-side is sooo sick
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-11-2010, 5:54 PM Reply   
No Problem Joe. I am all good with your statement. thanks though, i do appreciate it.

I understand being bumbed with a heal bruise. not fun at all. luckily i have not had one since early 2000's, when all companies started making thicker foootbeds and other advancements. there is a boot for just about every foot type and situation. ive heard of a sprain as a result of too much padding on the sole. the bed compressed to the point that support was lost, so for that person a firmer bed was better for example.

Maketing is actually quite welcome for me. sometimes all i can do is read descriptions, reviews, etc. I would have to drive 5 hours or more to see any large variety and most current gear... or just fork out the $ and check it out then make do or sell it. demoing is quite out of my area unfortunately. BUT i do get to live near powell for the sacrifice. But with that said, Lake Powell Marine is the bomb and does very well to represent the small town of Page Arizona Lake Powell

you, me, and everyone else will just have to wait and see for themselves what these boots (and all other gear) is like. and see what our similar but very different and unique feet and styles have to say about the fit.
Old    michaelspsp (michaelspsp)      Join Date: Sep 2007       08-11-2010, 6:01 PM Reply   
looks like JD is doing very well with THE SYSTEM
Old    B Poser (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-11-2010, 6:17 PM Reply   
I still don't get the "system". Did you see the prices for those and the boots? Damn man, your gonna spend almost $500, and that doesn't even have the board to attach them too. Crazy.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, wakeboarding isn't snowboarding, please stop trying to turn it into snowboarding.
Old    Jory Hancock (JorzA)      Join Date: Aug 2010       08-11-2010, 10:27 PM Reply   
Anyone know when the 2011 Ronix are available???
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       08-12-2010, 4:30 AM Reply   
???
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2010, 5:30 AM Reply   
@ B Poser: well 170+ 300= 470$ and you will probably get them cheaper. Thats so much cheaper than any other high end boot in europe. (Ronix Relik Cell one bindings are about 540 $ list price.)
Well the hyperlite Boots are 50 $ more expensive than last year ...ok but i bet you will get the boots and the bindings in a set for the same price you got the boots last year (420$) and its great for people who share boards they just have to buy 2 Boots 1 binding 1 board. Plus if they really last longer 50 $ is nothing we should talk about.
You dont even have to buy them !!!
Old    Jon Doe (Kane)      Join Date: Mar 2010       08-12-2010, 5:48 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorza View Post
anyone know when the 2011 ronix are available???
2011
Old    Adam Greer (premier135rider)      Join Date: Oct 2002       08-12-2010, 7:29 AM Reply   
we got 2011 One boots in both color ways as well as Cells, and Reliks yesterday at Performance
Old    Esteban (other1)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-12-2010, 9:43 AM Reply   
I really want to hear rider feed back regarding the snowboard style strap in binders..... I feel like you will lose quite a bit of energy going from a one piece boot to a two piece system. Now instead of energy being transfered directly to the board, you're applying pressure to the boot, which applies pressure to the straps, which will transfer your energy to the board. I dunno, I'm skeptical. Looks like a great way to make extra $$.....
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       08-12-2010, 10:41 AM Reply   
Check it!
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more
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Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       08-12-2010, 10:46 AM Reply   
last, enjoy!
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Old     (okcrashhighlight)      Join Date: Feb 2008       08-12-2010, 11:12 AM Reply   
No Lyman?
Old    Jay Smith (snoopy1173)      Join Date: May 2010       08-12-2010, 11:33 AM Reply   
where did you find these pics of the liquid force gear
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-12-2010, 11:40 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by other1 View Post
I really want to hear rider feed back regarding the snowboard style strap in binders..... I feel like you will lose quite a bit of energy going from a one piece boot to a two piece system. Now instead of energy being transfered directly to the board, you're applying pressure to the boot, which applies pressure to the straps, which will transfer your energy to the board. I dunno, I'm skeptical. Looks like a great way to make extra $$.....
here ya go
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=782444
Old    Brock Moran (Maddog10)      Join Date: Jun 2010       08-12-2010, 11:54 AM Reply   
Some of that LF gear looks awesome!
Old    Chaserwaser            08-12-2010, 11:57 AM Reply   
Hah those black LF boots with the chain SOOOOOoo gangsta I love it , on the other hand the girls boot with the bow on the back? How is that not going to wear down and break really quick?
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2010, 12:02 PM Reply   
@Esteban: where should "energy" go? Its not the goal to have the stiffest boot so I don't see why this should be negative.
Old    Adam Van Dyke (lfadam)      Join Date: Nov 2008       08-12-2010, 12:11 PM Reply   
okcrashhighlight....no, no Lyman. I heard rumors and I guess they are true... looks like the Harley is similar in fin setup, maybe its similar?
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       08-12-2010, 12:20 PM Reply   
hell yea! The vantage and watson bindings are awesome. The new watson hybrid graphics are sick also. Oh and the black Ultra's are crazy, if Darth Vader wakeboarded those are the bindings he would wear!

oh and chase the bindings with the gold chain are amber wings new bindings!
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       08-12-2010, 12:59 PM Reply   
Mmmmm interesting
Old    Whitney Shelton (wolvieshel)      Join Date: Jul 2010       08-12-2010, 1:44 PM Reply   
anyone got anything on wakeskates
Old    Teleprompted Anthems (TelepromptedAnthems)      Join Date: Mar 2010       08-12-2010, 1:45 PM Reply   
What are the gray bindings with the black and green liner? Those look sick...
Old    Ben W (bennn)      Join Date: Jun 2010       08-12-2010, 1:51 PM Reply   
those are sick!! the LF stuff looks awesome
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       08-12-2010, 1:58 PM Reply   
It seems weird that LF is not making a 2011 Lyman. It seems to be a pretty popular board. Maybe Lyman is going somewhere else.
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2010, 2:00 PM Reply   
@Teleprompted Anthems: shane

amber bindings new wings look pretty male.
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       08-12-2010, 2:22 PM Reply   
yup lyman has moved from LF thats why

If u didnt catch it also the blue and pink bindings are harleys new bindings
Old    Jason Huffman (jhuff79)      Join Date: Mar 2005       08-12-2010, 2:26 PM Reply   
Where did he go?
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2010, 2:43 PM Reply   
http://liquidforcewake.com.au
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       08-12-2010, 5:02 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbr View Post
I still don't get the "system". Did you see the prices for those and the boots? Damn man, your gonna spend almost $500, and that doesn't even have the board to attach them too. Crazy.
fyi, your beloved cwb bindings msrp = $475

i'm just sayin...
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       08-12-2010, 5:15 PM Reply   
What in the hell is Hanging off those Black LF boots? Looks like the perfect thing to get your hand stuck in.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       08-12-2010, 5:16 PM Reply   
I just dont get it, why would you want that chain clanking around while you ride.
Old    benj_t            08-12-2010, 5:31 PM Reply   
Im gonna miss the Lyman...
Old    benj_t            08-12-2010, 5:32 PM Reply   
everything else looks sick though!
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       08-12-2010, 6:18 PM Reply   
Is Lyman going to Company?
Old    Justin Thompson (tchs22)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-12-2010, 6:24 PM Reply   
IMO I think Lyman is gonna join Randall at Company this year...I mean the two guys who go the biggest and they both ride for Axis boats....it makes perfect sense

Last edited by tchs22; 08-12-2010 at 6:27 PM.
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-12-2010, 6:50 PM Reply   
Cant wait to see the new shane in person, so sick. Wish the bottom was black though...
Old    Adam Van Dyke (lfadam)      Join Date: Nov 2008       08-12-2010, 7:32 PM Reply   
Yea the Lyman was a great board and sold well. Total shame. I heard Lyman and LF were done and one other LF rider that shocked me...havent seen any news on him though so I dont know if that was actually true.
Old    CIREboardshorts.com (nuckledragger)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-12-2010, 8:59 PM Reply   
A few more of the 2011's boardshorts. Straight off the sewing room floor. More on the way.
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Old    Paul Chan (popaulchan)      Join Date: Aug 2010       08-12-2010, 9:18 PM Reply   
http://www.facebook.com/kikeNb#!/alb...0780562&ref=mf
ENJOY!^^
Old    B Poser (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-12-2010, 9:43 PM Reply   
Thanks Joe....and for the record, I still don't get it.

Eric,
Those thirds ones down are straight money. Well, they are all super sick, but those are quite nice.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       08-12-2010, 9:44 PM Reply   
poser, haha! it's all good. i'm down to try it, just like i was down to try the hinge tech when it first came out.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-12-2010, 10:43 PM Reply   
not sure if im posting this correctly if pic doesnt show heres the link to the jewels. how do you properly post pics onto message board?


http://obrienaustralia.com.au/
Old    Brock Moran (Maddog10)      Join Date: Jun 2010       08-12-2010, 10:50 PM Reply   
I'm diggin the LF S4. That's what I currently ride (09 LTD version) but the new one looks SICK!
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       08-12-2010, 11:44 PM Reply   
hell yea brock, S4 is such a quality ride, I was hoping they would introduce a hybrid version this year but doesnt look to be the case. S4 plus vantage will be an awesome setup
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       08-13-2010, 3:10 AM Reply   
Looks like it
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-13-2010, 6:56 AM Reply   
interested about the shane. worried of a tail poke to hand slice though, reminds me of the can opener byerly
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-13-2010, 6:58 AM Reply   
i meant the FLY version i guess
Old    Brock Moran (Maddog10)      Join Date: Jun 2010       08-13-2010, 8:51 AM Reply   
Yea for sure Mark. The Vantages on the S4 would be an awesome ride. Might have to look into that... I have the 09 Sovens on my S4 right now, but I'm not crazy about the new Sovens. They would look nasty after a couple rides at my local lake. I think the Watsons look pretty decent too.

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Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       08-13-2010, 9:03 AM Reply   
Enter the O'brien Decks for 2011!!!!
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Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-13-2010, 10:17 AM Reply   
what is the lime-green bottomed one Andy? looks like it says it is the Decade on it, but the board bellow that one obviously has the decade shape
Old    Drewbie (big_willy_style)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-13-2010, 10:31 AM Reply   
the green board is the decade. the white board below it is the new josh sander's board, the format. totally new shape for 2011. it is really light weight due to wood stringers in the core.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       08-13-2010, 10:32 AM Reply   
This is the 2010 Decade, I think this is the one your referring to.
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Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       08-13-2010, 10:48 AM Reply   
This is the 2010 Decade, I think this is the one your referring to.
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-13-2010, 12:03 PM Reply   
ohh ok. for a minute the bottom features of the white one got me thrown for a loop (very decade-ish), but second look, i realize that the white one has two bolt-on-fins on each end un-like the decade.
new for '11 board there?
Old    Drewbie (big_willy_style)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-13-2010, 12:42 PM Reply   
what am i, chopped liver?? is my response not good enough for you? haha
Old    Kyle Power (kylepower8)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-13-2010, 1:34 PM Reply   
is there going to be a 2011 liquid force watson fly?
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-13-2010, 2:14 PM Reply   
@Andrew: people dont read responses if they would they would have found the link with the answer (http://obrienaustralia.com.au/ ) too
Old    Simon (greenmoose)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-13-2010, 2:17 PM Reply   
@ Kyle Power: still yes, it s this funky board without inserts :P
Old    michaelspsp (michaelspsp)      Join Date: Sep 2007       08-13-2010, 7:29 PM Reply   
im at knoxville pwt. a lot of 2011 gear used today. was next to ambers 2011 setup. no chains on her bindings today. harley had his new boots on. as did watson
Old    Kyle Power (kylepower8)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-13-2010, 7:51 PM Reply   
which are the 2011 watson boots? the lace up black and red ones?
Old    benj_t            08-13-2010, 8:59 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylepower8 View Post
which are the 2011 watson boots? the lace up black and red ones?
Yeah man they are the red and black lace up boots with the cool looking "W" on the heel
Old    usfhookup            08-14-2010, 12:47 AM Reply   
CWB ANSWER

Gen6 Plate
New Heel Lock Hinge - zero heel left
3 Piece orthotics footbed
Mesh Wrap for light weight
SOS Shock Absorption Heel
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Old    Tim A (timmo)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-14-2010, 10:10 AM Reply   
I know Australia has screwed up time zones but why do they get everything before anyone else!?!?

This thread is turning into a "post something from an Aussie website" thread!!

Last edited by timmo; 08-14-2010 at 10:15 AM.
Old    rapha (rapha)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-14-2010, 11:19 AM Reply   
well, their season starts earlier than ours... so the riders need new stuff to buy, thats all i guess
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-14-2010, 12:13 PM Reply   
there the seasons are flopped of ours since it is south of the equator. when the new stuff comes out our season is on the way out and there, the season is on the way in
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       08-16-2010, 4:05 AM Reply   
Lol

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