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Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 1:14 PM Reply   
just talking to Harley and he has landed 2 BS9 W2W he has it on video and will post it soon
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-29-2010, 1:21 PM Reply   
were they wrapped? lol
Old     (Gears)      Join Date: May 2010       06-29-2010, 1:24 PM Reply   
probs not
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 1:24 PM Reply   
it is on facebook Harley Clifford or you tube not wrapped handle passed
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-29-2010, 1:24 PM Reply   
So sick
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-29-2010, 1:29 PM Reply   
ok haha lord knows we need another article about people hating on another wrapped BS 9, anyways thats awesome!
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-29-2010, 1:33 PM Reply   
Old    Mattgettel (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-29-2010, 1:36 PM Reply   
what does "wrapped" mean?
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 1:37 PM Reply   
SO MUCH FOR NOT TAKING CHANCES DURING THE SEASON. this kid rocks ! he is pushing the sport i like that.CONGRATS HARLEY.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-29-2010, 1:39 PM Reply   
Protected. When going at something for the first time you should always wrap it, as it is somewhat easier and safer. The more experience you get with a trick, you can move to not wrapping it as much.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-29-2010, 1:44 PM Reply   
OMG! that was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!! I am totally in shock, Bill Did he land more than one cause that looks like it was on LOCK!


A-Dub seriously you think people should learn wrapped first?
Old    B Poser (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-29-2010, 1:48 PM Reply   
All I can say is WOW! That kid is on a totally different level than anyone else in the sport. He is truly an amazing rider.


What is the idea behind learning something wrapped before passing the handle? It certainly doesn't make it any easier cause it totally changes the trick.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-29-2010, 1:48 PM Reply   
Only when dealing with a trick like that of the KGB
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-29-2010, 1:50 PM Reply   
A-Dub

okay I follow you. in that case I would Agree I learn KGB and Tootsie rolls wrapped first.
Old    Mattgettel (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-29-2010, 1:50 PM Reply   
i'm still not sure what wrapped looks like. Like wrap a gift?
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-29-2010, 1:50 PM Reply   
A-dub, really? I find that wrapping completely changes the trick. I wouldn't say its easier, just different. As for being safer, I don't really follow. How is it safer?

Props to Harley for continuing to do some crazy stuff on the water.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-29-2010, 1:53 PM Reply   
My joke was either that bad, or went over some heads. No, I do not think wrapping is "easier" than passing, especially once you learn to pass the handle I think that is easier. I apologize for the derailment.

Matt, it's when they pull the handle around one side of the hip, and grab the handle behind their back, thus when in the air a handle pass is eliminated by just unwinding the rope.
Old    Adam Van Dyke (lfadam)      Join Date: Nov 2008       06-29-2010, 1:53 PM Reply   
thats unreal. makes it look like its nothing! harley for prez
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-29-2010, 1:53 PM Reply   
Not only does wrapping change the whole trick, but the approach is totally different.
Old    Mattgettel (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-29-2010, 1:56 PM Reply   
thanks A-dub. copy that.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-29-2010, 1:56 PM Reply   
Here is Kyle Alberts' wrapped version of the trick

Kyle Back 9'er NTT from Spencer Norris on Vimeo.

Old    Mattgettel (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-29-2010, 2:01 PM Reply   
so when you wrap you obviously eliminate 1 handle pass but does it help you rotate faster too?
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 2:51 PM Reply   
Hi Andy,

Harley landed 2 bs9's in that set plus four 9's. He was going back out to do some more bs9's hopefully.
Old    Professor (brhanley)      Join Date: Jun 2001       06-29-2010, 3:04 PM Reply   
That is sick. Nice use of a dumper, it appears, as well.
Old    Adam Holdsworth (holdsworth)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-29-2010, 3:43 PM Reply   
That was nastyyy... sick Harley!

Looks like the driver tripped the wake a little bit to help him with the height but still was sick nonetheless. Clean as hell too.
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       06-29-2010, 3:47 PM Reply   
Adam, I think that is just how the guy was operating the camera. I thought the same thing at first but after I watched it a few times, it seemed more of an effect by the person filming.
On a side note, look how much longer he has to wait for his pop when doing a handle pass vs wrapped bs spin. The wrap makes a HUGE difference in this trick.

Last edited by kyle_L; 06-29-2010 at 3:49 PM.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-29-2010, 3:50 PM Reply   
Bill,

THAT IS AMAZING!!! 5 NINES!!! Dont think any one can claim that! NOT to mention all Handle passes. Your kid is amazing!
Old    Sparky Jay (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       06-29-2010, 5:09 PM Reply   
No cheers from the boat?! Kids a machine!
Old    Adam Holdsworth (holdsworth)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-29-2010, 6:17 PM Reply   
Kyle, watch the water churned up from the prop... it leaves a noticable angle of the path the boat took. My dad did this back when we had our X-7 to make a slightly bigger wake for me when starting to learn mobes.
Old    chris garvy (wakeordie)      Join Date: Aug 2009       06-29-2010, 7:48 PM Reply   



5 900s
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 8:10 PM Reply   
HE'S THE REAL DEAL! you can hate on him if you want, but he's commited to excel in this sport!
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       06-29-2010, 8:17 PM Reply   
i take it all back I think harley will get a 12 this year. I dont think there is any doubt now. Harley is the greatest spinner our sport has ever seen
Old    Jason Shehan (norcalbordr)      Join Date: Feb 2006       06-29-2010, 8:19 PM Reply   
Why would anyone hate him??? The kid is by far the best rider on the planet and he is barely old enough to drive a car
Old    Sander (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       06-29-2010, 8:34 PM Reply   
HOLY ROCKAMOLY! Insane. I stick with what I said; he'll stick a 12 in the next few months.
Old    matt moss (mossy44)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2010, 8:39 PM Reply   
has anyone else done this before? I know it has been done wrapped, but what about all handle passes?

congrats. made it look too easy.
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 8:44 PM Reply   
Harley is the first to land a w2w bs9 and the first to be able to spin 5 nines as well.
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-29-2010, 8:48 PM Reply   
what do you guys think he will do for trick of the year??????????????????????
Old    Gene Williams (gene3x)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-29-2010, 8:53 PM Reply   
Unreal .... it is beyond me how anyone does that wake to wake when I can barely spin a 5.....
Old    Gene Williams (gene3x)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-29-2010, 8:54 PM Reply   
a different Mobe 7 ?
Old    Ben W (bennn)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-29-2010, 9:47 PM Reply   
absolutely ridiculous... 12
Old    John Haile (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-29-2010, 10:30 PM Reply   
We do the same turn to help learning moves. Some call it a cheat, but I still look at it as a legitimate.

I'd rather see a wrapped "grabbed" bs 9 then all handlepasses... but w2w bs 9 is better than a doubleup imo but enough with the comparisons THAT WAS SICK I QUIT!!!
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       06-30-2010, 4:26 AM Reply   
yeah i agree. Not taking anything away from HC but Kyles is the best looking one style wise. Rathy's is as well.
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       06-30-2010, 6:11 AM Reply   
Lee, you can't compare a wrapped vs handle pass trick style wise. Obviously if you wrap up you are going to have an easier chance of going for the grab and make the trick look better. I think Kyle's looks more like a one trick wonder (just kind of spinning until he hits the water) where Harley's looks like something he can get consistent. With 5 9s now, he is definitely going to have a w2w 10 in there soon.
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-30-2010, 6:30 AM Reply   
that first hs 9 was SOOO smooth, oh and that BS 9 was kinda cool too
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-30-2010, 7:21 AM Reply   
The more I watch this the more impressed I am I, Harley is a machine!
Old    Alek Emery (acerock88)      Join Date: May 2008       06-30-2010, 11:33 AM Reply   
That is sick. Wasn't Harf the first to have landed five different nines? If doing them off the double up counts, then I think he was the first. That aside, Harley is killing it lately.
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       06-30-2010, 12:20 PM Reply   
i dont think danny has landed 5 nines of the wake Harley is definately the only person to land 5 nines wake to wake
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-30-2010, 5:38 PM Reply   
Bill is correct, Harley is flying into the rocrd books as first person to land 5 w2w 9's all handle pass.
Old    Sander (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       06-30-2010, 7:41 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill_Dad View Post
what do you guys think he will do for trick of the year??????????????????????
Double hoochie-Sbend-to blind?
Dude I don't know but can't wait to see it!
Old    harley clifford (harleyclifford)      Join Date: Dec 2009       06-30-2010, 8:20 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by acerock88 View Post
That is sick. Wasn't Harf the first to have landed five different nines? If doing them off the double up counts, then I think he was the first. That aside, Harley is killing it lately.
hey Andy actually bill is correct i am the first to do 5 handle pass 9s wake to wake, and i am the first to do all 4 frontside 9s in a row on film.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-30-2010, 9:05 PM Reply   
wrong person Harley! hahahaha, no worries, I know that you are the first I was agreeing with your pops!

Keep eating those frosted gnarly flakes for breakfast man!!!! Your on FIRE!!!!! Any thoughts on moves for trick of the year???
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       07-01-2010, 9:27 PM Reply   
was talkin to Harley today and he told me he landed another w2w bs9 today
Old    Joe Lanier (FloppyRider)      Join Date: Jun 2010       07-02-2010, 9:58 PM Reply   
This is amazing. The more I watch it the more impressed i get and I can't believe that the sport has come this far in such a short amount of time. Harley is one of the top new innovators of the sport and I think he will be the first to land a BS 10… Just an idea for trick of the year. Keep up the amazing riding Harley
Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-03-2010, 8:10 AM Reply   
rathy landed a BS 10 last year for trick of the year. Although it was a wrapped BS 10 you can say that he will be the first to land it. However he will more than likely be the first to land a handle pass BS 10. Harley you are absolutely killing it right now, keep up the hard work.
Old    Bill (Bill_Dad)      Join Date: Apr 2010       07-03-2010, 5:28 PM Reply   
look how much the sport has progressed since last year, a ts9 hs7 and bs5 ts7 whirly5 crow5 and a pete kgb and slide good both ways was enough to win.
now you need more than 2 mobe 5 tricks and and a bunch of other mobes and at least 2 9's and at least a bs7 or heel or toe 7 to win. the level of riding has taken a huge step.
Rusty definately throwing a ts9 and swts9 at worlds last year made Harley go out and get consistent on sw ts 9's. Rathy throwing bs7's made everbody put in bs7 in there runs. There is a whole new generation of riders out there that are pushing the sport to new levels now, its scary hahaha
Old    Joe Lanier (FloppyRider)      Join Date: Jun 2010       07-04-2010, 11:14 AM Reply   
I haven't seen Rathy's BS 10... was it off the DU? I would have to say that Harley would be able to land the BS 10 W2W soon. "NOT Wrapped"
Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-04-2010, 11:33 AM Reply   


Old    John Haile (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       07-04-2010, 5:07 PM Reply   
Rathy, Rusty, Clifford, and Harf are all very possible canitadates for bs 10 all handlepassed.
Old    Joe Lanier (FloppyRider)      Join Date: Jun 2010       07-04-2010, 10:48 PM Reply   
Thanks for the vids. Amazing... There are so many great riders out there today.. Its hard to say. I hope to see all of them attempt the bs 10. Its so crazy because its only just in the last few years have riders started pushing the boundries with the spins. Parks of corse has been pushing boundries for a while now but then you have Harf with his 12 and now rusty with the w2w 10... It seems like everyone has just decided to pick it up a notch and now everyones doing them. Its amazing to see this sport grow and I can't wait to see where it ends up..."not that it will ever end" I do want to say that I am a little surprised that the spins didn't happen a lot sooner than what they did... I look at snowboarding "pipe" with sean white... doin 12 and 14 its insane... I think and hope that our sport gets that far. I'm sure a lot of wakeboarders would love to see it progress to that. And MAN help us all if sean white decided to become a wakeboarder! lol

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