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Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-12-2010, 5:31 AM Reply   
What is your setup with the Krypt 8" Hlcd's? What cans and amp?
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-12-2010, 6:33 AM Reply   
I bought the cans from boardersmall and i have a Phoenix Gold OCTANE R 8.0:4 Amp putting out 250w rms bridged at 4 ohms.
they sound great but i think they can sound even better if i tune the settings on the crossover.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-12-2010, 7:03 AM Reply   
Where can I get speaker terminals for the boardersmall cans?
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-12-2010, 7:20 AM Reply   
I got mine from radio shack for $5 a piece but you could probably contact ken and get them from krypt I think he had them for $3, www.diywake.com has them as well.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-12-2010, 6:04 PM Reply   
Anyone else want to post their setup?
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-13-2010, 9:21 AM Reply   
I know more people are using the Krypt HLCD's?
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-13-2010, 9:45 AM Reply   
AJ it may be that a lot of people have just started getting the 8" since he recently started putting them up on ebay. I do know that there are a few people on the centurion and malibu sites that have put in the 6.5". I guess what i'm saying is that even though a lot of people have bought them, they might not actually have everything set up yet.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-13-2010, 10:10 AM Reply   
^^^^^^^^That or they don't want to start getting bashed for having "knockoffs" . They guy who introduced those isn't to well liked here and any post with his stuff usually turns into hating threads.


Regardlesss I am not one of those people...............Any one of the cans from DIY, Aerial, Bullet Lines. I run the DIY wake stuff for my cans and racks. Solid solid product with great customer service. Most people put dynamat or some kind of sound dampening inside the cans to make them sound great. Without it you get a small echo if you ask me. The speakers just sound crisper wth the dynamat at least to my unprofessional ears. All the companies I believe have speaker can packages that get you the terminals, clamps and cans.

I did get to demo a Bullet Lines rotating rack and the rack/mechanism was top notch. I didn't have the cash to drop on two of them at the moment, but when I do I will def be getting 2 of them. Rock Solid design. So I can only assume their cans are of the same.

My Krypts sound great and do more than the trick for me. Would recommend them to anyone on a budget or looking to upgrade their old standard MB Quart speakers to HLCD's without dropping tons of dough.

As for an amp yu ocan't beat the pure power and quality of Kicker for the $$$ in my eyes. A ZX with your specs would def do the trick. There are some better quality amps for sure, but they cost quite a bit more. Again all depends on the budget, but Kicker is tough to beat, quality product for sure.

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Old    Tyler Smith (smitty1258)      Join Date: Jun 2009       05-13-2010, 5:48 PM Reply   
I have Krypt 8" HLCD's

Speakers sound GREAT when compared to my old skylons. You can actually hear the music while boarding now

Im running them in the bullet line cans, with a JL 6 channel, bridged ~150RMS per speaker. I plan to upgrade the amp soon so I can put these things to there 250W RMS potential.

My speakers came with a broken crossover, and grill. I emailed Ken and had new ones in just a few days at no cost. I am having an issue with a speaker can though, but I suspect he will take care of it.

+1 from me.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-14-2010, 1:13 AM Reply   
Looks like I will be running two 8" Krypt hlcd's in the boardersmall cans powered by a Rockford Fosgate 400-4.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-14-2010, 7:47 AM Reply   
Here is mine, I also got my cans for boarders mall. Two sets of 8s. Running at 2ohm via a Hifonics 1010. •RMS Power Output: 2 x 500 W @ 2 Ohms

They are super clean and super loud.
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Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       05-14-2010, 1:17 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajholt7 View Post
Looks like I will be running two 8" Krypt hlcd's in the boardersmall cans powered by a Rockford Fosgate 400-4.
This is similar to what I plan to do, but with a Kicker 4 channel, bridged to 2. I snagged a pair of the speakers from eBay a few weeks ago, and just ordered the cans from BoardersMall.
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-14-2010, 9:20 PM Reply   
Duffy,

I'm jealous 2 pair with that type of power, those things should scream.

I'm getting my PAC lc-1 next week so I can control the tower speakers seperately. I cant wait to get out on the water again and have more fun with them.
Old    J B (bjeremi)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-15-2010, 6:10 AM Reply   
I have one set of the 8" driven by a KX450.2. Was hoping to have another set up but the amp I bought didnt work out. Glad to see some people actual got in on the discount when it was around. Damn good sound for the money.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-15-2010, 9:00 AM Reply   
I put a simple dash switch in. It's on the amps remote on. That way I just turn them off. I've had bad luck with PACs. I have had 3 go out, I guess that's not to bad because they are cheap.

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Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-15-2010, 10:02 PM Reply   
Couldn't beat the deal. Thanks again J
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-17-2010, 12:59 PM Reply   
here is a picture of their new box that is coming out. It fits either 4-6.5 or cut larger openings and it will fit 4-8".
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Old    Jeff (jroyal)      Join Date: Jan 2003       05-18-2010, 7:20 AM Reply   
Mine sound great. Can't beat the price.
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Old    BLAIR BARHAM (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-18-2010, 7:28 AM Reply   
Jeff

Are those 8" or 6.5"
Old    Jeff (jroyal)      Join Date: Jan 2003       05-18-2010, 7:57 AM Reply   
Sorry, those are 6.5" in some cans a buddy of mine made.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-18-2010, 9:41 AM Reply   
I am putting a pair of 6.5's in my buddies samson swivel cans. Sort of like a ghetto exile
Old    BLAIR BARHAM (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-18-2010, 10:47 AM Reply   
I was thinking of droping some in my stock Roswell speaker light bar comdo. I just didn't know if they were that much of an upgrade if I stuck with 6.5"

How loud are they at the end of the line? Can hear mine now but I want to HEAR IT if you know what I mean. Plus I would be adding another amp to power them.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-18-2010, 10:50 AM Reply   
It would be night and day. You would need a proper amp that puts out 150 rms at 4ohm.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-18-2010, 12:32 PM Reply   
Blair for sure even with the 6.5 it is a huge huge upgrade. Especially with those Kickers in the Roswells. For anyone who is thinking of upgrading the old 6.5 can guts to these it is a huge difference in clarity and volume while riding. You can hear so much more of the highs/low's and overall sounds.
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       05-21-2010, 12:32 PM Reply   
My BoardersMall cans just arrived, and I bought a Kicker ZX350.4 to power my pair. I'll be sure to post pictures when I get them mounted and wired up.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-21-2010, 12:43 PM Reply   
Be careful with the cans when cutting the whole bigger. They scratch very easily.
Old    Jeremy Hawkinson (hawk22)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-21-2010, 1:36 PM Reply   
what did you use to cut the cans Duffy? My cans just arrived too. I read someone's post said it took him 5 minutes with a rotozip. My buddy went the jigsaw route and he had some probs. ...but I don't have a roto I only have a jigsaw...
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-21-2010, 1:55 PM Reply   
I used the jigsaw with a metal specific blade and was fine. I didn't look the best but you don't see that part anyways and yes they scratch super easy.
I'm still toying with the truck bedliner idea.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-21-2010, 3:26 PM Reply   
I used a rotozip with a metal cutting bit.
Old    Harold Hemming (h20king)      Join Date: Dec 2009       05-21-2010, 4:35 PM Reply   
I installed two of the 6.5 krypt hlcd,s and am ruining them at 150 watts at 4 ohms and they are great for the money I also installed the real bullet 650hp coax in the interior and they are amazing if I did it again I would use the bullet hlcd,s as well
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Old    Adam Duggan (piggie)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-21-2010, 10:28 PM Reply   
i got two of the 6.5'' and have them in the bulletline pods , Just running them of a 5chnnl fusion amp but they still sound awesome .
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Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       05-26-2010, 8:07 AM Reply   
Yea, I just realized that I will have to cut the holes bigger - I figure I'll blue tape 'em up before I start cutting.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-27-2010, 1:19 AM Reply   
Just cut my boardersmall cans. I just used painters tape and a jigsaw. Any scratches will be hidden by the speaker grills. Hopefully I can get a chance to install them next week.
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       05-27-2010, 8:02 AM Reply   
I did the exact same thing yesterday!
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Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-27-2010, 8:11 AM Reply   
Man, you guys are smarter than me. I wish i had thought of the painters tape, if i had done what you guys did I wouldn't have scratches on the ends of my cans.
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       05-27-2010, 11:52 AM Reply   
I think I want to have them powder coated, but before I do I want to get them installed and test fitted to see what they look like.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-27-2010, 12:21 PM Reply   
I just took mine to a metal shop and had them re-polished. Cost me $20
Old    Matthew Spencer (canadian_waterboy)      Join Date: Apr 2008       05-27-2010, 2:29 PM Reply   
anyone know where I can get the 6.5 inch Krypt HLCDs? I can't find any on ebay... on the 8 inch ones.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-27-2010, 2:32 PM Reply   
Bulletlines.com
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       05-27-2010, 2:44 PM Reply   
I just taped the outer edge that I was cutting. I left the rest of the cans covered in the bubble wrap they were shipped in.
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       05-27-2010, 2:56 PM Reply   
It also helps to put a few strips of painters tape on the bottom of the jig saw just to add a little more cushion. I had to do this to the 6 cans I did on the Kicker VLX with the KM6500.2 "6-Pack".
Old    Jeremy Hawkinson (hawk22)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-28-2010, 2:54 PM Reply   
just did mine. taped the top over the edge a little, left bubblewrap around the rest. metal blade on a jigsaw (18 tpi). took about 10 minutes. Easier than I thought...hopefully the rest goes the same. just bought velcro for crossover, hope to install over the weekend.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-28-2010, 3:34 PM Reply   
Great cheap amp for running 6.5's

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...id/0/SFV/30046

Great cheap amp for running 8's

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...id/0/SFV/30046
Old    Hate N Pain (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-28-2010, 3:59 PM Reply   
Hawk, get some "Great Stuff" insulating foam sealant to hold the Cross over in plase as well as pray a little around inside the can to absorb/reduce vibration.
Old    TY-one-on (typhoon)      Join Date: Jul 2001       05-28-2010, 4:20 PM Reply   
I have a pair of the 6.5's that dropped into some lightning cans I
had. I run four speakers in my boat on the front channels of a
720 watt soundstream and bridge the rear to the cans for 190
Watts to each. Sounds awesome. I had evids before and these are much
Louder and clearer.
Old    Jeremy Hawkinson (hawk22)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-28-2010, 5:28 PM Reply   
do I just spray the great stuff right over the crossover? won't hurt it? get it at any store?
Old    Harold Hemming (h20king)      Join Date: Dec 2009       05-28-2010, 7:39 PM Reply   
I mounted my crossover with spray foam as well spray a little in the bottom wait for it to expand then place crossover in and wait for the foam to harden wont hurt the crossover and is available at any home improvement store
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Old    Jeremy Hawkinson (hawk22)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-28-2010, 11:53 PM Reply   
Harold what's on the inside of ur can? is that dynamat or somethin?
Old    Harold Hemming (h20king)      Join Date: Dec 2009       05-29-2010, 6:27 AM Reply   
yes it is deadbeat same thing as dynamat seems to work well keeping the sound above the interior
Old    Corbin J. Ross (corbin)      Join Date: Jul 2009       05-29-2010, 7:41 AM Reply   
I have a set of 6.5s that seem to be plenty loud in the boat, probably too loud but to be honest, they aren't really audible out on the line??? I thought maybe I needed to have them pointed out to the sides a bit. I'm running about 200W RMS to each speaker. Any thoughts?
Old    Harold Hemming (h20king)      Join Date: Dec 2009       05-29-2010, 9:39 AM Reply   
I am only putting 150 watts RMS to mine and can hear them clearly but my boats exhaust is super quiet I installed the malibu silent rider exhaust tips they are turned down and baffled or another option would be a FAE which is even quieter than the tips but would not work on my boat with the blade
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Old    Hate N Pain (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-29-2010, 10:12 AM Reply   
Hawk, you can go the dynamat route if you want to spend more money but just spiraling some foam around will deaden the vibration as well.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-29-2010, 11:13 AM Reply   
Corbin,
How do you have your amp setup?
Old    Jeremy Hawkinson (hawk22)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-29-2010, 4:56 PM Reply   
Hate I totally was not thinking clearly when you mentioned "great stuff". I was in stereo mode and not thinking standard household product. Good stuff btw. So this is actually in place of the velcro...I like it. I didn't really like the velcro idea, especially since the back of the can is concaved so it would only hold on the four corners. This makes way more sense. I'm itchin for a new amp now--I must resist. Funny how this stuff can snowball in a hurry.
Old    Hate N Pain (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-29-2010, 5:11 PM Reply   
Oh it snowballs!

Yeah skip the velcro I gaurantee the can gets hot and the adhesive heats up and your cross overs are floating around the can.
Old    Corbin J. Ross (corbin)      Join Date: Jul 2009       05-29-2010, 5:47 PM Reply   
As far as mounting the crossover - I used hot glue and glued it to the back of the magnet. I got the idea because I think I saw the new kicker 6000s have the crossover on the back of the magnet.

Duffy - I have a four channel amp bridged, still 4 ohms. The amp can't handle being bridged and then wired to drop it to 2 ohms, not that I have enough speakers to do that anyway.
Old    JV (jmvotto)      Join Date: Apr 2008       05-30-2010, 4:20 AM Reply   
where do you guys set your eq or bass mid tweet settings on these. i have 6.5's in aerial speakers being powered by kicker 450.2 with a westsounds 420. great idea on the dynamat for the bottom side of the pods
Old    JV (jmvotto)      Join Date: Apr 2008       05-30-2010, 4:36 AM Reply   
krypt 6.5's on a moomba OBV 07
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Old    Corbin J. Ross (corbin)      Join Date: Jul 2009       05-30-2010, 7:26 AM Reply   
Does it matter how far apart the speakers are?
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-01-2010, 8:48 AM Reply   
what's the best amp to power one pair of krypt hlcd 8"s?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-01-2010, 9:08 AM Reply   
Great amp for running 8's

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...id/0/SFV/30046
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-01-2010, 1:58 PM Reply   
duffy, i tried to look at the link but i couldn't open it.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-01-2010, 2:12 PM Reply   
http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/S...id/0/SFV/30046
Old    Hate N Pain (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-01-2010, 2:16 PM Reply   
Duffy he said "best" LOL
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-01-2010, 2:48 PM Reply   
Sorry I meant cheap but still pretty good
Old    Hate N Pain (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-01-2010, 3:22 PM Reply   
Kinda like Bud Light right
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-01-2010, 8:19 PM Reply   
i've never heard that many good things about hifonix amps. how about something a little higher quality?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-01-2010, 9:09 PM Reply   
Dude their amps rock! Read some reviews
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-02-2010, 8:12 AM Reply   
any other suggestions?
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-02-2010, 8:15 AM Reply   
earmark suggests the JL g1300 per pair of their bullet hollowpoint 7.7's
I would think that the same amp would pusth the krypts just fine.
it's 300 mono at 2 ohms.
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-02-2010, 8:25 AM Reply   
i was thinking about the jl g4500. anybody have any experience with this amp? i just really would like to get at least 250 x2 at 4 ohms for these speakers.
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-02-2010, 8:34 AM Reply   
so let me get this right. if i run a mono amp to two 4 ohm speakers, is that a 2ohm load on the amp? i know a lot of stuff in this world but nothing about audio.
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-02-2010, 12:29 PM Reply   
Yes, when wired in parallel.

Last edited by ldr; 06-02-2010 at 12:33 PM.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-02-2010, 12:32 PM Reply   
I would love to test my amp against the JL. My system sounds super clean and super loud.
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-02-2010, 1:35 PM Reply   
well what about staying mono and going with the jl g1700 or a kicker zx 750.1 or an alpine pdx 600.1? any real difference between the three? how would they sound compared to the same speakers on a syn 2?
Old    Will Rice (willrice)      Join Date: Feb 2010       06-02-2010, 1:46 PM Reply   
None of the amps you just listed are full range amps. They are sub amps so they won't work for tower speakers. They would sound terrible compared to a SYN 2. You could use something like the JL HD750/1. It is a full range amp.

Last edited by willrice; 06-02-2010 at 1:50 PM.
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-02-2010, 2:00 PM Reply   
well dang. so what's some suggestions of how i can put around 250-300 watts to each speaker? has to be something less expensive than the syn2 that will give them the power they need. how about something in between the hifonics and the wet sounds in price and quality?
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       06-02-2010, 2:04 PM Reply   
Take a look at Kicker's new Class D full range IX500.4........250 x 2 @ 4 Ohm
Old     (redm1496)      Join Date: Jun 2010       06-02-2010, 2:29 PM Reply   
couldn't find a price on it. probably too new for where i was looking at. what about the zx650.4 or 850.2?
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       06-02-2010, 2:51 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by redm1496 View Post
couldn't find a price on it. probably too new for where i was looking at. what about the zx650.4 or 850.2?
MSRP is about $499 on the Ix500.4

The zx650.4 is 325 x 2 and the zx850.2 is 295 x 2. Out of these two, the zx850.2 would be the better choice as it would be running at 4 Ohm.

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