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Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       04-20-2010, 5:55 AM Reply   
woot!
Old    Mike R (madriding1)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-20-2010, 6:55 AM Reply   
Heck ya...
Old    Ben Wilcox (benjaminp)      Join Date: Nov 2008       04-20-2010, 9:08 AM Reply   
Damn exams, you boys have fun for me.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 9:21 AM Reply   
roll it up light it up smoke it up inhale exhale
Old    Eric (mjfan23)      Join Date: Nov 2003       04-20-2010, 9:27 AM Reply   
How pathetic some are.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 10:14 AM Reply   
I know to think some people drink poisen to get a buzz versus smoking a natural herb. Some people..
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 10:37 AM Reply   
I think people like Eric are pathetic.
Old    andy zarlengo (colorider)      Join Date: Jun 2001       04-20-2010, 10:41 AM Reply   
alcohol is natural, so what point are you making.... riley.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 10:48 AM Reply   
Really alcohol is all natural? You don't have to process it in any way?
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 10:50 AM Reply   
It's a worthless debate, but it's not really debatable that alcohol is much more harmful then marijuana and it's not really close, so when people who drink get judgmental it's pretty hypocritical to most people that smoke. That being said, who cares if people want to have a drink or smoke some pot as long as they aren't harming anyone. It's the judgmentalism that drips from Eric's post that I find pathetic.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 10:51 AM Reply   
^ 100% agree
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 10:53 AM Reply   
By the way, I do hate the "it's natural" argument despite that I am pro-legalization. Poison Ivy is natural too, it doesn't mean it's good for you.
Old    Eric (mjfan23)      Join Date: Nov 2003       04-20-2010, 10:54 AM Reply   
Wakeboarding has a terrible reputation because people like this.
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       04-20-2010, 11:04 AM Reply   
Quote:
It's the judgmentalism that drips from Eric's post that I find pathetic.
+1

Quote:
Wakeboarding has a terrible reputation because people like this.
No, it would be because of the exact same judgmentalism that you are displaying...
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 11:05 AM Reply   
I think Eric was pointing more towards the maturity level of someone that is so geeked out about marajuana that they celebrate a day, time of day, etc. (420) like it's their birthday and Christmas all rolled (pun intended) into one. My daughter was telling me about the "annoying dorks" at school that were all geeked out about today's impending date and I explained to her that it's not unusual for kids at that maturity level to act that way. Call me Crazy Larry, but I just cringe with embarrassment when I see adults act like that.
Old    Eric (mjfan23)      Join Date: Nov 2003       04-20-2010, 11:12 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by zo1 View Post
No, it would be because of the exact same judgmentalism that you are displaying...
Your blind if you dont see the general public opinion of the wakeboarding community. Like it or not, that opinion is formed from people like this.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 11:13 AM Reply   
It's what humans do, Dave. We have holidays, celebrations, etc. Many of them center around alcohol. So potheads choose 4/20 to high five each other. Who cares? It seems more immature to judge people for stuff like this then to actually choose a day to celebrate something you enjoy with others who also enjoy it.
Old    Eric (mjfan23)      Join Date: Nov 2003       04-20-2010, 11:15 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by paulsmith View Post
It seems more immature to judge people for stuff like this then to actually choose a day to celebrate something you enjoy with others who also enjoy it.
Are you stoned right now? Worst statement of the year.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 11:17 AM Reply   
No, I am not stoned right now Eric. I just think people ought to be free to pursue happiness in their own way when they are not causing harm to others. An outrageous concept to you, I'm sure.
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 11:24 AM Reply   
What's the big deal about everyone celebrating my birthday....
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       04-20-2010, 11:30 AM Reply   
Quote:
Your blind if you dont see the general public opinion of the wakeboarding community. Like it or not, that opinion is formed from people like this.
But that general public opinion is based on judging someone else, which is exactly what you are doing right?
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 11:32 AM Reply   
You, Hitler and Scott Byerly!!
Old    Rob Flaherty (mc_x15)      Join Date: Jul 2008       04-20-2010, 11:33 AM Reply   
If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize.

When you are as great as I am it is hard to be humble.

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.

Interesting Profile quote there Eric, Maybe people like you are the reason Wakeboarders are portrayed in a negative light. I dont think Pot smoking has anything to do with it considering people from every walk of life do it.
Old    Brett W (brettw)      Join Date: Jul 2007       04-20-2010, 11:34 AM Reply   
Stoners!!!

Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       04-20-2010, 11:37 AM Reply   
This thread will go no where. Not really going to judge on the drug aspect. Only want to comment that of course people are going to judge. That is a fact of life that people tend to forget. Your whole life is based on being judged. You will never escape it. Either embrace it or live life as a hermit.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 11:38 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulsmith View Post
It seems more immature to judge people for stuff like this then to actually choose a day to celebrate something you enjoy with others who also enjoy it.
When my son farts in a restaurant and then giggles about it I consider that to be immature. I guess I have sinned because I have judged him and, by doing so, shown that I am really the immature one. I guess I'm quirky that way!
Old    Andy Graham (ottog1979)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-20-2010, 11:45 AM Reply   
Dave, that was your son that farted?!
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 11:51 AM Reply   
Hey, don't judge!
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 11:51 AM Reply   
Dave, you do not understand the difference between judging people for being rude or causing harm and judging people (publically!) for their choice of recreation? Do you judge people at the river for celebrating alcohol? How about for drinking excessively in front of children? You consider that more mature and less harmful then some people celebrating 4/20?
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 11:54 AM Reply   
Can you point out where I judged somebody for smoking or drinking or anything other then getting geeked out about the number 420? I don't care who smokes or drinks or even farts.
Old    Coinless (bruce)      Join Date: Feb 2002       04-20-2010, 11:58 AM Reply   
Dave- If you need someone to judge farts, I'd elect Wes. He is a fart sniffer if there ever was one.

Last edited by bruce; 04-20-2010 at 12:01 PM. Reason: o
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       04-20-2010, 12:01 PM Reply   
Old    Paul Strahm (jps912)      Join Date: Jun 2007       04-20-2010, 12:02 PM Reply   
^^^I agree with Dave completely. Its fine if you want to drink or smoke or whatever i just think its a stupid reason to do it more.
Old    Mattgettel (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-20-2010, 12:02 PM Reply   
smoke it if you got it.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       04-20-2010, 12:17 PM Reply   
My favorite Cheech and Chong moment:

Old    F1F-Joel (deltarida)      Join Date: Dec 2009       04-20-2010, 12:22 PM Reply   
Its kinda funny how this type of behavior is not acceptable in the wakeboarding community but yet in the snowboard world it is not looked at so negatively. On some snowboard vids riders dont even hide it, they are burning right on the cam in your face. Yet they are still in vids and got sponsors. If that were in a wake vid...s**t would hit the fan. The are days people celebrate drinking...for ex St Patricks Day. Y cant the smokers get their one holiday. I dont care what people do as long as it doesnt affect me
Old    Hate2party (slipknot)      Join Date: Aug 2001       04-20-2010, 12:26 PM Reply   
like St. Patricks Day, another drinking holiday to get wrekt, like Cinco De Mayo another drinking holiday to get wrekt, let the stoners have one who cares, they probably came up with it stoned anyway. Pot legalization will not happen, just like equal rights with Prop 8, religions come out in full force once again come November.
Old    M.K (mkrueger313)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-20-2010, 12:32 PM Reply   
Who cares Eric? Has anyone ever said "ohhhh you wakeboard?? i bet you smoke a bunch of pot dont you?" Its ridiculous to think that wakeboarders have a bad rap cuz of pot..... Snowboarders used to have the same problem but now no one cares just watch any Technine snowboard video, in particular any Lucas Magoon section.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 12:39 PM Reply   
Holy Crap! Finally a thread on the new WW with some posts I was beginning to think it was a wasteland around here
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-20-2010, 12:40 PM Reply   
glen, the holidays you mentioned are days celebrating something. they're not "drinking" holidays...people just happen to drink a lot on those days.

on that note, i couldn't care less. like stated above, as long as i doesn't affect me, puff away.
Old    Hate2party (slipknot)      Join Date: Aug 2001       04-20-2010, 12:43 PM Reply   
really? I didn't know that Thanks for clarifying for me fire it up Umalimooch! lets do some Irish Car Bombs on the golf course Sunday. Get Wrekt!
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-20-2010, 12:49 PM Reply   
you were comparing actual "holidays" to 4/20, which celebrates nothing but smoking pot. so, kind of a weak comparison.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 12:56 PM Reply   
Cinco De Mayo is an actual holiday?
Old    Hate2party (slipknot)      Join Date: Aug 2001       04-20-2010, 12:58 PM Reply   
Zackly
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-20-2010, 1:01 PM Reply   
riley, are you serious?
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 1:03 PM Reply   
Yeah
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 1:06 PM Reply   
Cinco de Mayo (Spanish for "fifth of May") is a regional holiday in Mexico, primarily celebrated in the state of Puebla, with some limited recognition in other parts of Mexico.[1][2] The holiday commemorates the Mexican army's unlikely victory over French forces at the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862, under the leadership of Mexican General Ignacio Zaragoza Seguín.[3][4]

Cinco de Mayo is not "an obligatory federal holiday" in Mexico, but rather a holiday that can be observed voluntarily.[5][6] While Cinco de Mayo has limited significance nationwide in Mexico, the date is observed in the United States (also voluntarily) and other locations around the world as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride.[7] Cinco de Mayo is not Mexico's Independence Day,[8] which actually is September 16,[9] the most important national patriotic holiday in Mexico.[10]



I guess it's a holiday if you're proud of being a Mexican, but let's be honest not too many people will admit to that.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-20-2010, 1:11 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by steezyshots View Post
I guess it's a holiday if you're proud of being a Mexican, but let's be honest not too many people will admit to that.
wow...just wow. this thread just took a whole new direction.
Old    Mattgettel (mattgettel)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-20-2010, 1:16 PM Reply   
Riley says BOOM!
Old    Charles S (Chuch)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-20-2010, 1:18 PM Reply   
Been rockin' some Slightly, Pepper, and 311 today at work today on the ipod. Right on!
Old    S Dub (sdub)      Join Date: Jan 2003       04-20-2010, 1:24 PM Reply   
all this bickering is really kill'n my buzz.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 1:27 PM Reply   
Seems appropriate to this conversation to listen to Ben

Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 1:31 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by wakeworld View Post
Can you point out where I judged somebody for smoking or drinking or anything other then getting geeked out about the number 420? I don't care who smokes or drinks or even farts.
Right, you were pretty harsh on people doing nothing more then choosing a day for a semi-organized celebration of something they like to do on their own time that is significantly less harmful then alcohol. I have never heard you take issue with the maturity level of people at the river, so it surprised me when you came across so harsh and judgmental toward people doing nothing more then having fun in a harmless manner.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 1:37 PM Reply   
By the way, funny story considering this conversation. Wife and I went to grab lunch nearby at Chili's. We sit down at the bar and the first thing the bartender (that we know from stopping in for happy hour now and then) say is "hey you guys, happy 420!" Classic, especially since he had no idea what my view on it would be and my wife and I look like a basic suburban couple. I thought, man Dave Wiliams would think this guy is an immature jackass! Haha.
Old    Darrel F (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       04-20-2010, 1:45 PM Reply   
Happy 420, pass to the left.
Old    S Dub (sdub)      Join Date: Jan 2003       04-20-2010, 1:50 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by wakeworld View Post
I think Eric was pointing more towards the maturity level of someone that is so geeked out about marajuana that they celebrate a day, time of day, etc. (420) like it's their birthday and Christmas all rolled (pun intended) into one..
are you sure that is what Eric was pointing towards, cuz I cant remember him ever being that articulate.
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       04-20-2010, 1:58 PM Reply   
Ahh, the long gone days before consortium membership and hair samples.

Sometimes when the wind blows just right...... well... you know. Have fun without me guys.... while you still can.

Smoking pot: The thing that nobody does that everybody does.......
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 2:17 PM Reply   
By the way for everyone who takes the interweb way to serious I was joking about the Mexicans. Puff Puff give!
Old     (fatsac)      Join Date: Jun 2004       04-20-2010, 2:18 PM Reply   
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Smoking pot: The thing that nobody does that everybody does.......
Ha! Pot and blow...especially in CA.
Old    M-Dizzle (liquidmx)      Join Date: Jun 2005       04-20-2010, 2:23 PM Reply   
I wish more people smoked and less people drank when they operated boats... I dont mind a bunch of boats putting around less than 5mph taking their time... but drunk dudes getting all aggro behind the wheel sucks.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 2:24 PM Reply   
Annual deaths in US:

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       04-20-2010, 2:25 PM Reply   
Who needs a holiday to drink? Happy Hour is every day!

I kind of like it that people look down on wakeboarders. Makes me proud to have been a boarder (snow and wake) for the last 16 years.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-20-2010, 2:33 PM Reply   
i've always said to legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. imagine how much money cali would have.
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       04-20-2010, 2:47 PM Reply   
Wow, some people on this thread need to partake in the 4-20 activities, so damn uptight.

Happy 4-20, to all that celebrate 4-20.

Should be a great day for

Pizza,video games and Movie sales.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 2:53 PM Reply   
And cable wakeboarding! Love to partake before I ride
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-20-2010, 3:01 PM Reply   
You guys are missing the real meaning of 420.

It's ultimately the time to chill. Yes, generally the time to blaze, but a smoker is not going to chastise you if you choose instead to crack open a beer, take a shot, eat a burger, or whatever, just don't get all bent out of shape and argue with the people that pot is wrong.

I got what you were saying Riley. A lot of people use Cinco de Mayo as an excuse to eat tacos and get hammered, but many of these same people want the Mexicans sent packing. What a brilliant concept. Celebrate the National Day of Independence for a country you cannot stand.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 3:25 PM Reply   
It's actually not the Mexican Independence Day but I get it
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       04-20-2010, 3:38 PM Reply   
Honestly like Joe said, making it legal and taxing it so its only a little cheaper than street dealers would come close to solving debt in a fer years
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       04-20-2010, 3:39 PM Reply   
"Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000"

haha. most of the people I know that still smoke weed, are in this category. they eat crappy food, and dont exercise. all because of weed.

happy birthday scott byerly.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 3:49 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulsmith View Post
Right, you were pretty harsh on people doing nothing more then choosing a day for a semi-organized celebration of something they like to do on their own time that is significantly less harmful then alcohol. I have never heard you take issue with the maturity level of people at the river, so it surprised me when you came across so harsh and judgmental toward people doing nothing more then having fun in a harmless manner.
Still don't really understand the comparison of some people drinking beer (which is a legal activity by the way, but that's a separate issue) and a guy going on a public forum and yelling, "Yay marajuana!" As much as you want to attach my comments to a particular substance and turn the conversation toward your campaign to de-villify (I may have just made that word up) marajuana, the substance is irrelevant. I would consider it immature for someone to start a thread with "Yay alcohol" or "Yay heroin" as well.
Old    Jesse Mitchell (jessemitchell)      Join Date: Feb 2009       04-20-2010, 3:49 PM Reply   
going to head To Wendys later tonight, its STONER BASHIN TIME!
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 4:08 PM Reply   
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Still don't really understand the comparison of some people drinking beer (which is a legal activity by the way, but that's a separate issue) and a guy going on a public forum and yelling, "Yay marajuana!" As much as you want to attach my comments to a particular substance and turn the conversation toward your campaign to de-villify (I may have just made that word up) marajuana, the substance is irrelevant. I would consider it immature for someone to start a thread with "Yay alcohol" or "Yay heroin" as well.
I did not compare some people drinking beer to starting a 420 thread on a public forum. I compared calling people who say "happy 420" to each other "pathetic" or "immature" vs never uttering a word about the zillions of other immature things people do like drinking very heavily and irresponsibly in front of their own, and other people's, children.

There have been "favorite beer" threads and many, many posts on WW along the lines of "yay alcohol" and I do not remember you calling those folks immature or pathetic.

And what is this "campaign" crap? Anyone who has a position on an issue is on a "campaign"? I think the government ought to let people do what they want for the most part unless it is causing harm to others. I think people like you and Eric ought to let people celebrate whatever they want to celebrate. Taking issue with people's fun that isn't harming you or anyone else seems like the very definition of pathetic to me.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-20-2010, 4:21 PM Reply   
Hmmm, doesn't appear my words are working. Don't have a problem with people celebrating whatever they want to celebrate. Don't have a problem with people having fun that doesn't harm me or others. Seems the more I try to clarify, the more words you put in my mouth. I think most people understand my point, so I'll have to be happy with that.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-20-2010, 4:32 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakeworld View Post
I think Eric was pointing more towards the maturity level of someone that is so geeked out about marajuana that they celebrate a day, time of day, etc. (420) like it's their birthday and Christmas all rolled (pun intended) into one. My daughter was telling me about the "annoying dorks" at school that were all geeked out about today's impending date and I explained to her that it's not unusual for kids at that maturity level to act that way. Call me Crazy Larry, but I just cringe with embarrassment when I see adults act like that.
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Originally Posted by wakeworld View Post
Hmmm, doesn't appear my words are working. Don't have a problem with people celebrating whatever they want to celebrate. Don't have a problem with people having fun that doesn't harm me or others. Seems the more I try to clarify, the more words you put in my mouth. I think most people understand my point, so I'll have to be happy with that.
I don't know how in the world we were supposed to interpret your initial post as not having a problem with people celebrating 420, but thanks for clarifying. I guess we are now on the same page.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-20-2010, 4:33 PM Reply   
now that that's clear, let's have a joint and a beer!
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       04-20-2010, 5:21 PM Reply   
what were we talking about?
Old    Brian (TXSurf) (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-20-2010, 5:32 PM Reply   
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what were we talking about?

lmao!
Old    PAUL (pnichols)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-20-2010, 5:38 PM Reply   
There are two theories to arguing on the internet. Neither one works.
Old    PAUL (pnichols)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-20-2010, 5:48 PM Reply   
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One of the best movies period...

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