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Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-12-2010, 12:24 PM Reply   
Excited for the start of the Olympics this evening....

Our own WW'er, Ryan Shimabukuro, has his team of speed skaters ready to bring home some medals to the United States.

It appears that there is some tragedy to start the games as luge competitor Nodar Kumaritashvili has died today in training.

http://www.oregonlive.com/olympics/index.ssf/2010/02/luge_crash_at_winter_olympics.html
Old    Brett W (brettw)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-12-2010, 12:59 PM Reply   
RIP Nodar Kumaritashvili

I read it's supposedly one of the fastest tracks seen in luge with one of the Americans nicknaming one of the turns 50/50 due to that being the chance of making the turn without crashing. Here's the video of the crash:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/akdobbins/nodar-kumaritashvili-luge-crash
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-12-2010, 1:25 PM Reply   
wow. i know that in general it's not safe, but that looks incredibly unsafe to not have some sort of protection from those support bars
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-12-2010, 1:32 PM Reply   
I was surprised to read that this is only the 3rd death in pre Olympic training and that there has never been a death during Winter Olympic competition.

Agree A-dub...that was surprising... You would have to think they assumed there was a shot in Hell that a competitor would come out in that area...?????
Old    Cliff Griffin (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-12-2010, 1:49 PM Reply   
Incredibly unsafe to have those pillars there period.
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       02-12-2010, 1:51 PM Reply   
Wonder if they will put some type of safety net up so this doesn't happen while the Olympics are happening.

That is just insane!!!!!
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       02-12-2010, 3:05 PM Reply   
Holy crap, who thought that those pillars were a good idea? That is terrible. Immovable objects inches from a surface where people are going nearly 100mph. Genius.

RIP Nodar, you were a ballsy fella and went out getting after it.
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       02-12-2010, 3:16 PM Reply   
Time for the course designer to get a new arse hole.
Old    Nate (mammoth)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-12-2010, 3:22 PM Reply   
Blame Canada!
Old    A. P. (bigdad)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-12-2010, 4:00 PM Reply   
Holy cow. Here is a still photo of what was about to come.

Upload
Old    Scotty D (jinxton)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-12-2010, 4:28 PM Reply   
A lot of the athletes having been talking about how fast and dangerous this course is, then you have this big open area with steel beams at the end, someone really screwed this design up.

Link to video, RIP Nodor you went out doing what you loved.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/02/12/olympic.luge.crash/index.html?hpt=C1
Old    Tony (supraride)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-12-2010, 5:18 PM Reply   
Wow. That looks really scary. That design is terrible. They should put some sides on that thing at least up 8' high
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       02-12-2010, 5:32 PM Reply   
Nasty. It is amazing how fast those guys go. We saw some luge in 2002 in SLC and talk about flying by you. It took me a good half an hour just to time the shot so that I actually got one of them coming out of the turn before the whizzed past.
Old    Richard Coop (mendo247)      Join Date: Mar 2005       02-12-2010, 8:26 PM Reply   
Nets pads etc it wouldnt have mattered at that speed.... What a shame.. R.I.P..
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       02-12-2010, 8:36 PM Reply   
He would have been fine if the chute kept him inside the chute.

He would have also just been just hurt if he landed into a net vs a steel pillar.
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       02-12-2010, 8:38 PM Reply   
Actually, it looks like they simply lowered te wall to early. If it was high for another 15 feet, he would have stayed in the course and not smashed into the pillar.
Old    Richard Coop (mendo247)      Join Date: Mar 2005       02-12-2010, 9:01 PM Reply   
I bet he would have lots a few limbs if a net was there..
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       02-12-2010, 9:45 PM Reply   
Ya, the best solution is to keep them in the chute. After that, all bets are off.
Old    Ryan Shimabukuro (ryan_shima1)      Join Date: Sep 2002       02-13-2010, 12:09 AM Reply   
Thanks for the support EJ! It was a great motivator walking in the Opening Ceremonies tonight and the Long Track US Speedskating Team is ready to roll!

With regards to the tragedy in luge today, it was indeed very sad. It's appalling that the media up to this point has been portraying nothing but great things about the luge track when in fact, sliders have been complaining about the dangers of the track for a long time now. Also, they had to reconstruct one of the turns a few years ago because the Bobsledders were also having major problems.

Finally, VANOC (Vancouver Organizing Committee) supported the efforts to restrict venue access to all foreign competitors in the hopes to give Canadian athlete's an "home field" advantage. That plan drastically reduced the amount of training runs for each slider, thus reducing the time it takes a slider to learn the course, which in the end makes it much more dangerous for the competitors. VANOC will eventually have to answer some very serious questions in the upcoming days.

Good night from VC!
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-13-2010, 8:04 AM Reply   
Good luck Ryan and thanks for posting! We're all behind you and the team.

USA! USA! USA!

Must have been an amazing experience marching in last night, an experience so few get to have.
Old    Billy (woreout)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-13-2010, 9:16 AM Reply   
Its sad to see that picture above and think he was taking his last breath at that moment. The video was very sobering to say the least. It would be like jumping out of a pickup truck bed at 80 mph into a telephone pole. I was glad to see the rest of his team stay and compete even though its got to be hard on them to stay focused.
Old    Ryan Shimabukuro (ryan_shima1)      Join Date: Sep 2002       02-13-2010, 10:15 AM Reply   
Thanks Paul! It's definitely an honor to wear our countries color's and represent the USA with pride.

Have a great weekend everyone!
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       02-13-2010, 12:48 PM Reply   
R.I.P Nodar Kumaritashvili
Old    Matt (duramat)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-13-2010, 2:04 PM Reply   
HAVE FUN RYAN! I stayed up late just to watch the opening ceremony and to hope to catch a glimpse of you and your team. Had to be even better in person!
Old    Chris Butler (xistential)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-13-2010, 6:15 PM Reply   
90 mph with a knee high wall seperating you from massive concrete pillars. Genius!!
Plus they have been running the accident on all the news stations.Now you don't just have to hear about him dying,you can watch it as well. Nice.
You would think there would be an independent inquiry into his death. But that will spoil everything and they might find a whole raft of people have been negligent so.................
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       02-13-2010, 10:11 PM Reply   
They lowered the starting spot to slow the race down.

They also extended the wall for 40 yards as shown in this pic...

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Old    Ctimrun (ctimrun)      Join Date: Aug 2009       02-14-2010, 12:56 AM Reply   
Even though they lowered the starting point they are still taking heat from the athletes and the media due to their speeds still reaching 90 mph.
Old    Steve - O (misteve)      Join Date: Aug 2007       02-14-2010, 2:43 AM Reply   
I just couldn't believe that they showed the entire video on TV, seems wrong to me....
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       02-14-2010, 8:36 AM Reply   
^^^ What I find more disturbing still is that there is video out there with sound of Nodar hitting that support beam. You hear Nodar hitting the pole and the sound of him hitting the steel support beam throughout the structure.
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-14-2010, 8:48 AM Reply   
Women's moguls was fun to watch last night....Kearney & Bahrke bring home medals to the USA!

Though I didn't see the race, the numerous replays show the generosity of the Korean skaters to Apolo Ohno & J.R. Celski.

Looking forward to watching the women's hockey today at 1:00 PM local.... Will attempt to not see a score before then.
Old    WakePowell Chris (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-14-2010, 9:50 AM Reply   
olympics not going so well for Canada. No snow, poorly planed tracks, no golds, damn, guess thats why Colorado said EFFoff in 76?
Old    Is it summer yet? (trentj6930)      Join Date: Oct 2007       02-14-2010, 10:34 AM Reply   
No snow, that's probably our fault, does it usually snow a foot in Texas? Nobody can predict the weather. The track was designed by a company (Stantec) that has designed may tracks before, and it was built in conjunction with the International Luge Federation. The venue was based on a track design of German designer Udo Gurgel of IBG. The death was tragic, but at speeds like these, people could come out just about anywhere. It was an unfortunate accident. Nothing more, nothing less. Just enjoy the nature of the Olympics!
Old    dave c (dav51lin)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-14-2010, 11:25 AM Reply   
i wish nbc coverage did not suck-tape delays suck.
Old    Mark Anderson (puckinshat)      Join Date: Sep 2003       02-14-2010, 12:27 PM Reply   
Watching the women's team right now, they move the puck really well, can skate nicely, but wow they cannot shoot! Call me sexist, but camp out with a box of pucks and a net and work on that shot.
Old    Sinko (sinkoumn)      Join Date: Jan 2007       02-14-2010, 1:19 PM Reply   
^W Hockey is tough to watch. They really need to bring hitting into the mix, without it the games are painfully boring.
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-14-2010, 3:41 PM Reply   
I didn't think the Women's Hockey game was tough to watch at all...? The only thing that made that game slow was the fact that China was so outclassed....




Know what is cool about the Olympics.... I was jumping up and down watching the finish of an event(Nordic Combined) that I am not even sure what the sport consists of.

I was just excited that there was someone from my Country leading and possibly getting a medal in a sport the United States never has....
Old    Mark Anderson (puckinshat)      Join Date: Sep 2003       02-14-2010, 7:11 PM Reply   
"Know what is cool about the Olympics.... I was jumping up and down watching the finish of an event(Nordic Combined) that I am not even sure what the sport consists of.
"


Totally agree to this point.

I don't want to bag on the women's hockey much more, but just to put it into perspective, my roommate's high school team (male) played the US Olympic women's team about 2 years ago in an exhibition match and easily handled them 6-2. I'm not saying the Women aren't fun to watch, but skill level is on par with a mediocre boys High School team here in MN.

China was just bad. I am pretty sure the Bantam team I coach could beat them.
Old    WakePowell Chris (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-14-2010, 7:29 PM Reply   
I was kidding. I think cancada rocks. I also Think My boys, who I went to h.s. with, todd and johnnie kick ass, and are gonna take a few more medals home.
Old    WakePowell Chris (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-14-2010, 7:30 PM Reply   
oh, and the i.o.c. sucks, not canada.
Old    Charlie (mnwakepuck)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-14-2010, 7:53 PM Reply   
Mark, totally agree with you there. It's funny to hear about decent hs teams here beating up on the women's team. I was playing outside right around Christmas and a couple members of the women's US team were playing out there and they were getting walked by 40 year old men haha. Not saying women's hockey isn't good but the men's tourney will be something to watch...
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       02-15-2010, 8:13 AM Reply   
Yea, that course is crazy. I was in Whistler in December and everyone was talking about the current world record and how it will very likely be broken. RIP.

Most of the November snow melted. Hard to believe b/c they had every snow gun on the mountains running 24/7...
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       02-15-2010, 10:02 AM Reply   
^^^ Cypress Mountain was getting approx 25 truck loads of snow brought in from Manning Park which is about 3 hrs away without our horribly bad traffic.

Just checked online. Cheapest singles seat for mens halfpipe on Wednesday is $ 795.00. Most expensive is $ 30,000.00 for a pair. I guess I won't be going.
Old    Mark Anderson (puckinshat)      Join Date: Sep 2003       02-15-2010, 10:27 AM Reply   
Just checked the detailed hockey schedule. USA plays at 2pm CST both Tues and Thurs. Does anyone have a good website I can stream the games from.

And, prob the best hockey game in 4 years, US v. CAN Sunday at 6:40pm CST. This guy is excited.
Old    Sinko (sinkoumn)      Join Date: Jan 2007       02-15-2010, 1:02 PM Reply   
^Yus, I'm stoked for that game too!
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       02-15-2010, 6:38 PM Reply   
Hey Ryan, just saw ya get some prime time nbc nods complaining about the ice conditions! Good stuff and good luck!
Old    Scott (scott_a)      Join Date: Dec 2002       02-15-2010, 7:19 PM Reply   
Mark- you can stream some of the events on NBC's site: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/live-full-replays.html
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-15-2010, 7:39 PM Reply   

quote:

By Manzo (zo1) on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 6:38 pm:

Hey Ryan, just saw ya get some prime time nbc nods complaining about the ice conditions!




I just saw that as well....

Get on 'um Ryan!
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-16-2010, 9:00 AM Reply   
So will I be able to watch Snowboard Halfpipe quals online? If not, I don't get why the largest sporting event isn't streaming live all the time. If so, I can't find it anywhere on NBC's site.
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       02-16-2010, 9:17 AM Reply   
Try CTV or Sports Net. Both are the Canadian stations that broadcast the Olympics. Haven't look to see if they are streaming though. Halfpipe is tomorrow.
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-16-2010, 9:47 AM Reply   
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/video/index.html?assetid=92208eae-058d-4545-b02e-e2fc0e5ffeca

See if that works....
Old    Steve McKim (mbsteez)      Join Date: May 2005       02-16-2010, 10:46 AM Reply   
Anyone on here notice that NBC confused Terry Fox with Micheal J Fox? Big difference...
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       02-16-2010, 12:49 PM Reply   
Yeah USA! Bobby Ryan scores at the end of the first period!!
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-16-2010, 6:22 PM Reply   
Another rough Olympic experience for Lindsey Jacobellis.....
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-16-2010, 7:26 PM Reply   
http://snowboarding.transworld.net/1000117439/news/olympic-pipe-and-pgs-standing-room-tickets-canceled/

If I would have gone, my trip would have been ruined.

Jacobellis was out of control.. too bad
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-16-2010, 8:08 PM Reply   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUtHd8_i1pc&feature=player_embedded
Old    GoodTimes (bennygoodx)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-16-2010, 9:06 PM Reply   
Wes- that's awesome!!
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       02-17-2010, 7:17 AM Reply   
^ I was watching it at a bar last night (yeah, male figure skating at a bar)... and that came one, I spit out my food and almost died laughing.

She is practicing blowing a dude and he is just thrusting away... gosh thats funny.
Old    Cliff Griffin (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-17-2010, 10:34 AM Reply   
Another rough Olympic experience for Lindsey Jacobellis.....

With a second failed olympics I see a Playboy spread coming.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-17-2010, 1:26 PM Reply   
well i haven't been this bummed in a while. No live stream, no live coverage, no way to watch the quals in halfpipe in the United States. Major FAIL NBC, I really don't get what anyone is thinking.

Quals are what I wanted to watch, I'd like to see the guy from random country X giving it his go
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-17-2010, 1:28 PM Reply   
and to know they're showing curling on tv right now..... how awesome
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-17-2010, 2:01 PM Reply   
found a site http://e99tv.page.tl/VU13_-B--k1-Olympics-k2-.htm
Old    Trapper (canucked)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-17-2010, 2:07 PM Reply   
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/video/CTV/index.html


i'm watching snowboard live right now...
Old    Trapper (canucked)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-17-2010, 2:13 PM Reply   
White is on top so far

The Pipe looks pretty slick (lots of people slipping out). I have no audio on so i'm not sure if the announcers are commenting on it
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-17-2010, 2:15 PM Reply   
yes, in canada you can watch what sounds to be every event on ctv, it does not allow US to watch that. Same with most Euro streams. CTV seems it is blowing NBC out of the water
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-17-2010, 2:16 PM Reply   
the link i gave was the only one i found that US people could watch
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-17-2010, 2:57 PM Reply   
previous link no longer works... supposedly NBC finds out and shuts their feed down to the States....

Here's anotherhttp://www.fromsport.com/video-179165.html
Old    Trapper (canucked)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-17-2010, 3:01 PM Reply   
oh, sorry guys.
Old    dave c (dav51lin)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-17-2010, 3:38 PM Reply   
f..k nbc!!!!
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-17-2010, 6:50 PM Reply   
Great first "high 5" after Shani's 1000 win Ryan!

Good to see Hendrik get the Bronze as well!!!!
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-17-2010, 9:39 PM Reply   
USA had a big night!

Congrats Shima and crew!
Old    Kraig Kaiser (kraig)      Join Date: Dec 2002       02-17-2010, 9:45 PM Reply   
Congrats Shawn White! Gold in the half pipe. And by far, no one was anywhere near him in the scores. He stomped that last run with the gold in his back pocket already. We took Silver as well.

What a great end to yet ANOTHER GREAT DAY!! I thought yesterday was a good day, today was WAY better!!!!!!

(Message edited by Kraig on February 17, 2010)
Old    Matt (duramat)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-17-2010, 9:51 PM Reply   
DITTO!

CONGRATS TO RYAN'S GANG!!
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       02-17-2010, 9:55 PM Reply   
Shani looked great during his 1000m... Repeat Gold Medalist!!!!!!
Old    Ryan Shimabukuro (ryan_shima1)      Join Date: Sep 2002       02-18-2010, 1:23 AM Reply   
Thanks Guys! A very proud and fun night for the team.
Old    depoint50ae (depoint50ae)      Join Date: Jul 2005       02-18-2010, 3:07 AM Reply   
Lindsey Vonn Downhill gold was really impressive.
Old    Nick Swan (goinbigg17)      Join Date: Jul 2002       02-18-2010, 5:49 AM Reply   
Women's downhill was flat out scary to watch, especially when 3 women crash before you race! Luckily none of them were hurt badly.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-18-2010, 6:02 AM Reply   
What a legendary night that was.
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       02-18-2010, 6:15 AM Reply   
Even with the progression of action sports these days, downhill skiing is still awesome. I don't think you realize how gnarly that is until you see them crash.

That has to be a rush.
Old    Tings (tings00)      Join Date: Aug 2005       02-18-2010, 7:15 AM Reply   
I enjoyed the swearing by whites coach during the long silence by the announcers, then they come back on and apologize. Very funny. Someone is getting fired for leaving that camera angle on to long.
Old    Tim (nukepower)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-18-2010, 10:04 PM Reply   
Ryan,

Congrats! You are a hero in Hawaii!! All over the news here at 5p.m.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/global/story.asp?s=12009782

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