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Old    Nickster (nar722)      Join Date: Dec 2003       01-26-2010, 11:11 AM Reply   
I just saw Zane Schwenke on a mastercraft rewind 2010 video. That guy can still flat out ride. I would like to see an over 30 contest to see who is the best....Gonzalez, Nunn, Murray, Shapiro??? Contests these days seem to have gone the way of ice skating. More technical and less style.
Old    d$ (tilleryboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2009       01-26-2010, 11:16 AM Reply   
murray.
Old    Chris Butler (xistential)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-26-2010, 11:23 AM Reply   
Murray, Darin.
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       01-26-2010, 11:23 AM Reply   
Benny G or Murray, take your pick.
Old    Adam Van Dyke (lfadam)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-26-2010, 11:55 AM Reply   
Benny G is 30? News to me.

Id have to go with Nunn but Shapiro and Murray are definitely killing it too.
Old    Dave W (njskier)      Join Date: Jul 2005       01-26-2010, 12:16 PM Reply   
After seeing him ride in person, I'd have to say Murray.
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       01-26-2010, 12:16 PM Reply   
tuff to say! would be a cool OG contest
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       01-26-2010, 1:04 PM Reply   
Is Harris not over 30? I'd put him in there too.

Tough call.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-26-2010, 1:42 PM Reply   
Randalls not 30 yet. Is Murray 30? Man I'm getting old. Ricky G's getting close to 30 I think. Cobe still kills it. Necrassons riding again. Byerly has been sighted strapping into a wakeboard again, pick up the new WBM for photos.
Old    Nickster (nar722)      Join Date: Dec 2003       01-26-2010, 1:48 PM Reply   
I think murray is the youngster at 32 or 33. Shapiro is at least 35 and nunn is over 35. Yeah, Cobe!...forgot about him
Old    Justin Thompson (tchs22)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-26-2010, 1:53 PM Reply   
I def vote for murray in this....house of style def rules all!
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       01-26-2010, 1:53 PM Reply   
THE SCUD! Hands down!
Old    Squid (twakess)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-26-2010, 2:07 PM Reply   
Don't forget about Nelson.
Old     (remax)      Join Date: Jan 2010       01-26-2010, 2:08 PM Reply   
dammmmm guys your making 30 sound ancient! way to destroy my confidence!
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       01-26-2010, 2:10 PM Reply   
I have been saying this since I was 27,

If your over 25 you're old in wakeboard years.
Old    Dave (daveronix199)      Join Date: Feb 2009       01-26-2010, 3:38 PM Reply   
BYERLY??? forsure would throw down
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-26-2010, 3:39 PM Reply   
Cobe, Nelson, Murray
Old    Trew Woodley (trewblu)      Join Date: Sep 2007       01-26-2010, 3:44 PM Reply   
murray no dought
Old    kyle (lfxstar)      Join Date: Jul 2001       01-26-2010, 4:22 PM Reply   
Andy, what's crazy is that it used to be that your career as a pro was pretty much done at 27-28 but now it definitely isn't the case. These guys are reaching their primes at 24-25 with obviously some young guns thrown in the mix.
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       01-26-2010, 4:24 PM Reply   
I think Ricky was working on getting a masters division for the PWT. not sure if that is a possibility in this economy. pretty sure that puts him in the 30 year old range.
I would say Murray, Shapiro, Benny G and Ricky G. in no particular order.

(Message edited by ttrigo on January 26, 2010)
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       01-26-2010, 4:41 PM Reply   
Oh yeah, you gotta give it up for Ricky. He comes out to the Spring Ride every year for the D-U contest, and he's left with cash the last two years. He finds the D-U in the choppy water and schools the youngsters.
Old    Jason (jason95gt)      Join Date: May 2006       01-26-2010, 7:30 PM Reply   
Murray! He is the only one making it to the semi finals and finals with the youngsters. Otherwise I would vote the Scud.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-26-2010, 8:09 PM Reply   
For all you youngsters...... OG's holdin it down!

Greg Necrasson
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Gerry Nunn
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Ricky Gonzalez
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Shaun Murray
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Cobe Mikacich
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Zane Schwenk
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Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-26-2010, 8:12 PM Reply   
Almost forgot Benny Greenwood...

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Old    Ryan Cargo (rc005)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-26-2010, 8:32 PM Reply   
dang that pic of murray is pretty sick..
Old    murrayair            01-26-2010, 10:03 PM Reply   
Murray, no question.
Old    Lionel (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       01-26-2010, 10:37 PM Reply   
All sick riders. I've seen MC rewind 2010 and I was very impressed with Zane's section!
Old    D-NASTY (jrich)      Join Date: Oct 2009       01-27-2010, 4:31 AM Reply   
i'm going to have to say shapiro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6OBVi5zsY&feature=related

i bet you will watch this at least 10x!
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-27-2010, 5:55 AM Reply   
These guys don't need to compete against each other. They're all fantastic riders that have already brought so much for the sport. I'm glad that they've stuck around and keep shredding as hard as they do.
(Hahn - Glad to see that Necrason style! Thanks for the shots!)
Old    d$ (tilleryboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2009       01-27-2010, 7:09 AM Reply   
murrays raley pic is nanners.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       01-27-2010, 7:43 AM Reply   
Damn Hahn.....excellent pics bro. Made me smile! Those shots of Ricky, Shaun, and Gregg are crazy!
Old    Greg (silvermustang35)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-27-2010, 7:52 AM Reply   
Steve, is somebody sitting on top of the tower in Zane's pic? Just thought it looked a little odd...
Sick shots though, Murrays looks awesome
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:19 AM Reply   
That's Derek Grasman sitting in the tower.
Old    Stephen Higgins (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-27-2010, 12:21 PM Reply   
Thanks for the Necrason shot. He is one of my favorites and he goes so big with style to spare.
Old    kyle (lfxstar)      Join Date: Jul 2001       01-27-2010, 5:41 PM Reply   
Necrasson=ELEPHANT
Old    Josh B (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-27-2010, 5:59 PM Reply   
Great shots! Thanks!

And Shapiro's got my vote!
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 6:05 PM Reply   
I don't have anything recent of Shapiro. I need to get my butt to Orlando.
Old    Stephen Higgins (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-27-2010, 6:15 PM Reply   
Agreed Kyle, but I would add to that equation:
Necrason=huge Elephant=can't watch that trick enough times
Old    Randy Scagliotti (wakedad33)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-27-2010, 7:30 PM Reply   
Couple of Shaun & Zane, not in Hahn's league but here they are. Both still killing it, fun to watch them ride.

Shaun

Murrey (Medium).jpg

Zane

Zane (Medium).jpg
Old    Randy Scagliotti (wakedad33)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-27-2010, 7:43 PM Reply   
Nobody mentioned Gator yet.

2008 Malibu Team challenge.

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Old    WSR (62lincoln)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-27-2010, 8:24 PM Reply   
So I saw this post of pros over thirty, so i had to look at it and post something. Thanks for love for sure. Just to let you know Im 34 and dont plan on stopping anytime soon. Im going to Spring Ride to get my 3rd year in a row victory haha.. Thanks for posting that pic. Hahn.. We started the Pro Mens Vet. Division last year for pros over 30 and i hope to get more involved this year so we can bring back all the talent thats been around for a long time.. thanks again and look forward to my new company Phalanx wake. All these guys definitely can ride and are the guys i came up with riding and the ones that still are riding are killing it.

thanks
Ricky G.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-28-2010, 2:27 PM Reply   
You're 34? Oh snap.... Might as well dig a hole.
Old    John Haile (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       01-28-2010, 8:12 PM Reply   
Murray
Old    CMC X Stars (02wakesettervlx)      Join Date: Jun 2001       01-29-2010, 7:53 AM Reply   
I have love for all of the guys over 30. I am in that boat as well, and I still love to ride. Most of these guys invented most of the moves that you see today. I think that there should be a division just for them.
They should have an old school contest like the one I saw on Fuel with skaters. Just the OG's, and only old school moves, on old school gear. You get extra points for wearing old school clothes too.
Old    Darren Lamont (dlamont)      Join Date: Apr 2003       01-29-2010, 8:34 AM Reply   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeA-Sys08eg&feature=fvw
Shapiro still ripping and going bigger than the young guns.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       01-29-2010, 12:09 PM Reply   
How about Watkins!!!!
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-29-2010, 12:12 PM Reply   
I love how big and laid out Wally goes! I think that type of riding is more fun to watch than 1080's
Old    Luker (xbones)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-29-2010, 12:27 PM Reply   
If someone can confirm Ben Greenwood is >30 I'd like to know... if so, and we are talking style, there is no question he is the answer to this question :-)
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-29-2010, 12:33 PM Reply   
CMC, Alliance did that a while back and it was in the bonus section of Pre Pop
Old    benj_t            01-29-2010, 2:05 PM Reply   
Yeah I dont think Ben Greenwood is 30 yet... if he is, then he is definetly the best rider over 30, but other than that...Ricky G has my vote for best rider over 30
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-29-2010, 2:22 PM Reply   
How about Byerly?
Old    Derek Grasman (derek_grasman)      Join Date: Sep 2004       01-29-2010, 8:43 PM Reply   
ZANE SCHWENK... Pulled him today. Blows minds
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-31-2010, 6:24 PM Reply   
Benny's going on the big 32 this year.
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       01-31-2010, 7:15 PM Reply   
After the latest WBM cover, I'm going with Mr. Murray. UNREAL!
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       01-31-2010, 9:16 PM Reply   
If Benny G is over 30 I don't think there is any question. Murray is a very close second though.
Old    Britt Hogland (bhog)      Join Date: Jul 2006       02-01-2010, 6:41 AM Reply   
Need you guys see in the new wbm that bylery is wakeboarding again
Old    Poke (bawllaoutacontrol)      Join Date: Sep 2007       02-02-2010, 12:11 AM Reply   
I have alot a health/fitness backgroud with alot of experience within physical therapy and I have studied alot of muscle physiology. If you train...your body can stay in great condition. But you can't sit on the couch and play video games all the time and expect to do crow mobes when you are 50. If you're On the right training program, there really is nothing you can't do. All this talk about riders who are 34 and stuff is kinda funny to me (not hating on anyone) I think that the idea comes from the majority of people over 30 just suck at life and don't do anything. haha. Muscle starts declining around age 40-45 if you don't train. Ligaments get weaker due to collagen not being manufactured after age 45 but you CAN slow the decline down with training. Maximum Heart Rate and VO2 Max decline with age but not to an extent where you won't be able to throw down a contest run(expecially if you stay in shape)In my opinion through school and experience...If you stay in shape: a person could keep a competetive edge through age 50 or maybe even higher. haha..I know that sounds funny but its true. The only thing that we can't control through exercise is the mind. Mental awareness will decline and there isn't much we can do about it. So it will affect the NFL quarterback and his quick decisions on the field...but I seriously doubt it affects wakeboarding. the worst thing that could happen if you stay in shape would be this: Imagine we're at a pro tour stop in 2030 and Ricky G is 54 yrs old. He cuts in to do a Pete Rose but two feet from the wake he forgets what trick he was planning to do and just has a mid-air brain fart and falls. Big Deal right? So just watch this video of Herschel walker dominating his first fight in the MMA at age 47. He looks fine to me! Ricky, Benny, Murray, Zane, Byerly, etc. etc. are just getting starting. haha. I hope this motivates everyone to put some hard tunes on their ipod and go to the gym!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsgbMpD_fw

http://www.faqs.org/sports-science/A-Ba-and-timeline/Aging-and-Athletic-Performance.html

(Message edited by bawllaoutacontrol on February 02, 2010)

(Message edited by bawllaoutacontrol on February 02, 2010)
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       02-02-2010, 1:03 AM Reply   
nice post, I liked hearing that perspective! I do agree that a lot of it is in the mind. Younger riders also tend to not think so much about the consequences of injury and thus are able to ride more fearlessly.

I think the big factor you left out is the recovery from injuries as you get older. Definitely its a bigger deal as you age which sucks. In your example the consequence of a 54 year old ricky g crashing a crow mobe the injury would probably be pretty severe vs a younger rider.
Old    Jason Buffalow (buffalow)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-03-2010, 8:12 AM Reply   
true true....I read where a 45 yr old would recover 14-18% longer time as a 30 yr old with same injury. Where is that fountain of youth
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       02-03-2010, 8:46 AM Reply   
The biggest difference from our professional atheletes and other sports, is that the majority of professional wakeboarders don't treat it like a profession. I can name a stack of guys that were in the top 10 and partied like rock stars most of their careers. You switch over to moto, snowboarding, football, basketball,etc.. And these guys are in training programs, eating right and treating it like a job. There are exceptions to this of course. When you look at Brett Favre, Randy Couture, and Phil Mickelson, you realize these guys have cross trained and take their personal fitness to the next level. Alot of it is age too. This sports really is bred from young people and that leads to some of the extra partying, not to mention sitting on a boat in the sun all day. Heck I just watched a special on Jimmie Johnson (4-time Nascar champion) and the dude is working out every day trying to be in the ultimate shape to sit in that car for hours. He has hired one of the best trainers in the world to cross train him to be the most fit guy in the business. He has been driving race cars most of his life and could just sit back and keep beating him, but he is taking control of his health. Tiger woods is the same (short of his extra curricular activities). Dude is a work out machine and it has shown on the golf course.

I hope the new generation of wakeboarders are doing the same and taking their training more seriously. There is no reason why most of the top 10 guys should not be riding in their 30's like Murray, Cobe, Necrassen.
Old    Poke (bawllaoutacontrol)      Join Date: Sep 2007       02-03-2010, 11:53 PM Reply   
Jason I agree and think we are seeing that. I watched Pull the other night and showed Lyman working out everyone including Wally said he is a work out machine. It does make a huge difference

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