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Old    Ifishok™ (ifishok)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-26-2010, 6:54 PM Reply   
This is me waiting......

Up or down, what do you think?

i............., well just take a guess

(Message edited by ifishok on January 26, 2010)
Old    andy zarlengo (colorider)      Join Date: Jun 2001       01-26-2010, 7:41 PM Reply   
Moose, is that you under a new name?
Old    jeff fitzgerald (jefefitz)      Join Date: May 2002       01-26-2010, 9:46 PM Reply   
i cheese....

orange,,i hope!!! yellow XX

WTF?
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 6:41 AM Reply   
^^ Wow, the affect of hard core brand marketing...
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       01-27-2010, 7:08 AM Reply   
tablet computers are nothing new btw
Old    Matt (ncsuuh)      Join Date: Jan 2007       01-27-2010, 7:12 AM Reply   
"tablet computers are nothing new btw"

This was also said about the iphone. "Smart phones are nothing new."

What apple is so great at is perfecting a product and changing the industry.
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-27-2010, 7:19 AM Reply   
^^^ Apple is good at marketing their product also. I wouldn't say that they perfect the product either. $.02
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 7:26 AM Reply   
DB hit it on the head. where Apple excels is the HCI side of the ball. Their interface design is second to none, always has been. That is what will draw the masses to the tablet in the same way they did the iphone. the beauty of the iPhone is not the hardware, it is how you interact with the device which is what made it revolutionary.

I have always wanted a real good solution for architectures et all that i can draw and have it instantly transferred to the box. To date, there is nothing that i am comfortable dropping the $$ on, hoing todays announcement changes that.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 8:45 AM Reply   
It's going to be a hard core multimedia/ereader machine - not a "tablet pc" in the same sense as the full blown options that are out there. That being said, hopefully the new iphone OS will open up some seriously cool options for app developers to move beyond the current iphone limitations. If they can put out a decent remote desktop/citrix client for this iSlate or whatever they'll call it then I will be all over it.

It also remains to be seen how they work the pricing/cellular contracts...
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 8:55 AM Reply   
^ Yea, that is what i have been reading as well. My hope is that since it will be heavily touch sensitive that one would be able to run other apps than just ereader media stuff. I don;t want a tablet PC BUT I want a tablet that I can use with some draw capture apps et al. We'll see..
Old    Jason G (jason_ssr)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-27-2010, 9:09 AM Reply   
The greatest attribute of Apple marketing is there ability to keep things relatively under wraps until its ready for the public.

Most tech firms announce their cool new concept and show you the demo. It starts the frenzy only to tell you it will hit shelves in 2 years. By that time better tech is already in the works and they dont capitalize on their own propaganda.

Apple hits you with the propaganda and then strikes while the iron is hot!! They put stuff to market at the pinnacle of the frenzy.

Its genius.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 9:55 AM Reply   
One of the people I picked up for casual carpool into SF this morning is the IT director over at Yerba Buena. He says Apple basically has taken over for days with their own security force - they can't even enter their own building. They have to check out keys to them - they can't even accompany to open doors etc. He doesn't even get access to the event! lol
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 10:12 AM Reply   
Ahh how unique, the iPad. The name is a little to menstrual for me, but I digress...
Old    Sam Ingram (wakeboardsam)      Join Date: Jun 2008       01-27-2010, 10:24 AM Reply   
Here it is...

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Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:30 AM Reply   
stupid name. all gonna come down to pricing/cell options...
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       01-27-2010, 10:37 AM Reply   
$750 is the price. and iTablet seems to be the name. I didn't see cell service as an option... //How are you supposed to hold that thing up to your head?

sounds like an ereader/web and media browser. Thought about getting one instead of a Kindle, but these are 3x the price.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:38 AM Reply   
What are you watching? iPad is the name
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 10:41 AM Reply   
where did you pull a price? no mention of it yet....
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:43 AM Reply   
no cellular option is lame
Old    Sam Ingram (wakeboardsam)      Join Date: Jun 2008       01-27-2010, 10:43 AM Reply   
Pure speculation... I saw that number yesterday. Supposedly few, if any cell carriers are going to pick it up because of the bandwidth that users will most likely use. That leaves WiFi... I also read about a possible dongle to your iphone and 3G...
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       01-27-2010, 10:43 AM Reply   
Wow. your serious, it really is iPad.

I've been checking them out this morning and just now saw that.
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-27-2010, 10:44 AM Reply   
Looks neat but does not appear to be any kind of game changer?
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:47 AM Reply   
if it gets a decent remote desktop/citrix app then it will be great for me. much slimmer/lighter than a netbook and 75% of the functionality. just need to be able to tether my iphone to it, hopefully they will offer something like that
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-27-2010, 10:47 AM Reply   
Looks like an oversized iPhone to me
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:47 AM Reply   
also very good battery life
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       01-27-2010, 10:48 AM Reply   
Manzo, not sure which article it was
Old    Pound (snyder)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-27-2010, 10:50 AM Reply   
iDontcare
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 10:51 AM Reply   
They better come back with something better than this... WTF, hype for an iPod touch on HGH? If this is it, whoopdeedo
Old    Benjamin (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-27-2010, 10:51 AM Reply   
iPad? I'm holding out for the iTampon
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 10:52 AM Reply   
Manzo, not sure which article it was

Gotcha, i thought you were getting that from the live blogs of the presentation...
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:56 AM Reply   
not sure what you guys were expecting... this is pretty much 100% what I expected them to unveil except for the lack of cellular (which still shocks me)
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-27-2010, 11:01 AM Reply   
They are comparing it to an Apple iPod Touch hahaha

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Steve-Jobs-Apple-Tablet-iPad,9521.html
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       01-27-2010, 11:04 AM Reply   
If you have a smartphone and a laptop, this device is pointless. and as I said above.....
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:04 AM Reply   
dumb nearsighted article (as usual ever since Tom's was bought)...

of course it's a giant ipod touch... the ipod touch has always been a mini tablet lol. the lack of cellular will keep the kindle alive though, especially after a price drop...
Old    Matt (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-27-2010, 11:06 AM Reply   
I have been wanting to get the wife a Kindle or Nook since she reads a lot online on the couch or in bed (via website novels and not actual books). Currently shes uses my work laptop which is big and bulky and the iPhone is too small.

My hang up was it needed a browser and to be in color anything else was a bonus. Hopefully Apple will then tie in an app that allows users to purchase books like the Kindle or Nook.

This looks like just what we are looking for. So you can see there are uses for it.


(Message edited by Pierce Bronkite on January 27, 2010)
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:08 AM Reply   
yes it has "ibook" lots of industry support - just no cellular (can you tell i'm unhappy about that). the books use the epub format so hopefully you can load your own epub books onto it. i have also been trying to not get a kindle (waiting for something better)
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 11:14 AM Reply   
It's got cell Wes...
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:14 AM Reply   
whew
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 11:15 AM Reply   
LOL, with AT&T. Friggin Genius
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:15 AM Reply   
now will they subsidize the price if you pay $30/mo for data is the question
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 11:16 AM Reply   
Doubt it since it is a prepay they are sayin...

way to tack the biggest downside of the iPhone onto the new device.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:17 AM Reply   
no contract, cool
Old    Matt (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-27-2010, 11:18 AM Reply   
Nice, just saw how to read a book. Exactly what I was looking for.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:19 AM Reply   
$499, not awful
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:20 AM Reply   
probably 16gb model without cellular, probably will range up to at least 799
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:21 AM Reply   
ouch, that makes it a tougher sell
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 11:25 AM Reply   
yikes, seriously, 629 for cell coverage device.

Pretty steep IMO, but maybe that is because I tend to not read real books that much let alone books on the th iRag
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:27 AM Reply   
yeah not cheap, but hardly costs more than an unsubsidized iPhone. $729 is the sweet spot i think (32 GB plus cellular)
Old    Paul (paulsmith)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-27-2010, 11:28 AM Reply   
After reading and watching some video, I'm still with my initial opinion. Neat device, not a game changer.

As someone who has a Macbook with aircard, iPhone, and Kindle, it's going to take something pretty spactacular to make me want to go drop $800 on this thing or whatever they want for it.
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 11:30 AM Reply   
true, but maybe it is because I have little use for it so i am looking at it as a toy (which would likely get stuck on my shelf)
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:30 AM Reply   
It will cannibalize some macbook sales for sure, and itouch sales. But it wil do well. Also, this will jumpstart their academic sales again.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:32 AM Reply   
at 1/2" thick and 1.5 lbs this would free me up to work from just about anywhere without having to lug a laptop... and add an ereader which I've been wanting for a long time, as well as movies/tv for the plane ride etc. i like that the cell is pay as you go.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 11:34 AM Reply   
thin

thin and light
Old    Nate (mammoth)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-27-2010, 2:53 PM Reply   
People criticizing this for being 'just a big iPhone' will get it once they see the possibilities from the extra screen real estate. It's going to be about the software and the interface (multi-touch with 10" of screen).

Anyone notice how crazy popular the iPhone is? A 'big iPhone' is exactly the point!

(The $130 charge to add the 3G is a pretty standard price in the laptop world)
Old    Sean M (magic)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-27-2010, 3:11 PM Reply   
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Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-27-2010, 3:17 PM Reply   
Someone was thinking about this 3 years ago. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eF0y0IfpPU
Old    Scott (scott_a)      Join Date: Dec 2002       01-27-2010, 4:35 PM Reply   
People criticizing this for being 'just a big iPhone' will get it once they see the possibilities from the extra screen real estate. It's going to be about the software and the interface (multi-touch with 10" of screen).

Meh. iPad is running the iPhone OS, so the software/interface already exist to an extent...things have just been tweaked a bit given that the iPad has 3x more space to work with. The SDK does apparently mention a few new features specific to the iPad, but I doubt it's gonna be huge departure from the iPhone.

I'm annoyed at how much effing media coverage this received for what it was.

a brief hands-on: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/apple-ipad-first-hands-on/
Old    Nate (mammoth)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-27-2010, 4:45 PM Reply   
It's not just the iPad that has 3x the space to work with, it's us...the users.

I know that using devices of difference screen sizes leads to different experiences. Using Aperture on my 24" iMac is FAR superior to using it on my 10" netbook. Likewise for Google Earth, and several other visual applications.

Small screens suck for certain things (reading, browsing, watching movies, etc). It's a 'sum of the whole is greater than it's parts' thing. Scaling up from 3" to 10" on a multitouch device means more than just more screen to look at.

But we'll see. 'Meh' was also the word of the day when the first iPhone came out and didn't have Apps at all.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 4:49 PM Reply   
Exactly. According to those on this board there are two things I hate - Apple and Christians (both are incorrect). But I like this device.

Travelling around with .5" 1.5lb device will be much much easier than my laptop, or even the dell netbook (much thicker, heavier, bulky power adapter) - and it shares accessories/charger with my iphone, so no duplication there.

I have been holding off on a kindle for a long time, so this device is a no brainer for me. Anyone want to buy a netbook? =)
Old    Jason Neves (jv210)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-27-2010, 5:22 PM Reply   
I think it looks sick and will work just like a iphone, but it still has no flash support.

I read somewhere that it will be $7xx for the 64 gb version, which is a bit steep.

Also since it seams to be based of the iphone OS you should be able to jailbreak it shortly, which adds a lot of cool features like multitasking.

(Message edited by jv210 on January 27, 2010)
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 5:25 PM Reply   
$829 for 64GB with 3G
$699 64GB wifi
$729 for 32GB with 3G
$599 32GB wifi
$629 for 16GB with 3G
$499 16GB wifi
Old    Jason Neves (jv210)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-27-2010, 5:26 PM Reply   
That's expensive for the 3G models, especially since it's slow of hell. I'd rather use my iphone to tether.
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 5:57 PM Reply   
I agree that for people that have a use for it...

Wes and using it to travel...
Others for reading books et al

It will be a great device. I was just hoping for a cross between the iPhone and a lappy as I personally have little use for the iPad but would if it were more capable.

I would say though that IF I were in the market for an e-reader, I would pounce on this.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 5:59 PM Reply   
Yeah it just isn't possible to do a true "tablet pc" yet without it being too thick, heavy, or shortlived (batterywise) - or all 3... I think we're still a year or two off from that.
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-27-2010, 6:02 PM Reply   
Agreed ^^ but here to hoping right... just like I am still hoping (as I know you are as well.) that round about April when they do the same song and dance for the next gen iPhone that it will be on all Carriers. iPhone + Verizon LTE + tethering = Why do I have a wired connection that maxes out at 7 meg?
Old    Matt (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-27-2010, 6:05 PM Reply   
Apple is like the Dallas Cowboys of the NFL. Everyone hates them but on the other hand they have the biggest following of fans.

Anyway, I remember when the iPhone came out. There were tons of people who couldn't stand Apple or disliked the device. Now everybody practically has that phone or is getting rid of their existing phone to upgrade to an iPhone.

Does anyone remember when HP came out with the touch tablet? That hardly got any coverage and was just a fart in the wind after a few days. Anyway you have to give it to Apple for creating products that no other industry can come close to, and when others do its old news.
Old    Nate (mammoth)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-27-2010, 7:29 PM Reply   
Manzo...when you say that you have no use for it unless it were more capable, what kind of capability do you have in mind?

Multitasking would be nice, certainly like it on my Android device. It won't be long before flash doesn't matter.

It seems that the tablet fits nicely between the phone and laptop...especially once the developers go to work. Wanting more is really just wanting a laptop /netbook.
Old    Dave (sordave)      Join Date: May 2002       01-27-2010, 7:51 PM Reply   
The following is coming from someone who has a Blackberry because that is what my company gives me. I wish I had an iPhone. My 3 kids and wife have iPhones and they are an awesome device. Not a great phone for making phone calls, but a great internet cruiser, weather checker, GPS, phone book, calendar, and app machine all made really fast and easy. If the iPad is just a big iTouch - that's great.

Now if Apple would just open up the ability to use something other than iTunes which is the biggest piece of crap software program out there. Just let me put what I want on my phone/itouch/ipad and organize everything using windows explorer the way that I want.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 7:52 PM Reply   
Don't hold your breath...
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-27-2010, 8:34 PM Reply   
I like it. I dig the fact that Apple is pushing the masses to keep up. WINTEL needs to get a clue.
Old    Jim Zarin (jimmy_z)      Join Date: Jun 2009       01-27-2010, 8:45 PM Reply   
Ipad was made to compete with a Kindle.

E-books will be the next hot item. Apple has got their foot in the door at ground zero and has many more features than a Kindle.

Its not trying to be an iphone or and itouch. Although it has their features which is smart by Apple to include them.

Imagine your daily newspaper delivered, never late and never wet. Among the many other things it is capable of doing.
Old    Nick B (iridelow1998)      Join Date: Jun 2006       01-27-2010, 10:15 PM Reply   
I don't see the big deal. Why would I want a supersized ipod touch? Was this marketed towards elderly people? I truly don't get it. My laptop does things that my iphone doesn't do such as the ability to install certain programs, have a ton of memory etc. From my understanding this has virtually no memory if 64gb is the max and the same OS as the iphone which is very limited compared to an actual computer.

This is coming from somebody who has and loves their iphone. I also have a touch and really don't care for it very much, go figure. I guess if you want to spend $500-800 to read books this is marketed towards you?

(Message edited by iridelow1998 on January 27, 2010)
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:17 PM Reply   
I think you are underestimating both the current app selection and the potential apps that will be taking advantage of the extra screen real estate.

Like I said, this is not a laptop - but for most people it can do most of what many people use their laptops for... add in remote desktop capabilities for IT nerds like me and it is a pretty attractive portable device...
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-27-2010, 10:21 PM Reply   
Its all about convenient/capable web access. Its the reason netbooks are popular.

I don't want an ipod touch but I would like this -- a kindle with color and internet access!
Old    Brad C (whitewookie)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-27-2010, 10:35 PM Reply   
I like it. Great sales tool to replace a heavy laptop. As I am not an Apple guy I have a question, are there spreadsheet/word processor apps available that are compatible with word and excel docs? What about powerpoint or pdf apps???
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       01-27-2010, 10:38 PM Reply   
the "iwork" apps that have been rewritten specifically for this device are $9.99 each. compatibility with word/excel/powerpoint isn't known.

i think it's highly likely that microsoft will eventually release versions of word/excel/powerpoint - who knows when though.
Old    Manzo (zo1)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-28-2010, 4:39 AM Reply   
I was thinkin along the sales pitch and teacher prof line last night and this is a winner there. To be able control w no peripheral and see easily is a great design.
Old    Benjamin (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-28-2010, 5:41 AM Reply   
Microsofts courier will blow the ipad out of the water

http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
Old    Nate (mammoth)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-28-2010, 5:53 AM Reply   
Clearly, the 'Book Reader" scuttlebutt muddied the waters for Apple.

iBook was teeny part of the presentation, the device goes way beyond being a book reader. Of course, it's going to smother the Kindle DX...but that's because it does so much more.

As for Office, even if MS doesn't step up the rest of the dev community will. Open Office, Neoffice, etc. There's no shortage of dev's who wanted to do this for the iPhone/iPod but with no sanctioned keyboard solution they've held back.
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       01-28-2010, 6:11 AM Reply   
Now if Apple would just open up the ability to use something other than iTunes which is the biggest piece of crap software program out there. Just let me put what I want on my phone/itouch/ipad and organize everything using windows explorer the way that I want.

get an android phone and a windows based tablet. all of the functionality you want plus a ton more.

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