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Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-25-2010, 7:28 AM Reply   
I think Mastercraft and Malibu are both great boats. Now i might have a bias but does anybody else think Tige's are really stepping it up? The RZ4 looks great, is there any positive feedback on the new tige's. I would love to hear about the newer models, sound off if you have one.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-25-2010, 7:32 AM Reply   
que Tige tattoo...
Old    8tens (Ben Kerran) (rukie)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-25-2010, 8:01 AM Reply   
hahahahaha. Funny that is the first thing that pops into my mind when I hear Tige also. I don't have any personal experience with Tiqe boats, but that tattoo thread was hilarious.
Old    Bu Coo (brett564)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-25-2010, 8:07 AM Reply   
What thread?
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       01-25-2010, 8:18 AM Reply   
Some tool had TIGE bigger than shat inked on his back. thought it was henna personally....
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-25-2010, 8:20 AM Reply   
I dont like tattoos in general but that was over the top stupid.
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-25-2010, 8:58 AM Reply   
The new RZ2 that I saw 3 months ago was awesome. Had a change to go out and take a few sets on it however, we had other plans that day but did see the boat. There was another WW member that did a full write up about the surfwake of that boat. Great write-up of the boat IMO.
Old    Ken Toby (towboat_222)      Join Date: Feb 2007       01-25-2010, 9:41 AM Reply   
Was at a boat show this weekend saw a RZ2. Very nice roomy boat. They have stepped up. Also met Rick the Pres. He is a very nice guy and knows his products.
Old    Dave (davenk)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-25-2010, 10:40 AM Reply   
We got an 09 Z1 in October ad love it so far. We only had it out about 3 times though before the weather got cold here.
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-25-2010, 11:43 AM Reply   
The new Tige's look great, love the new dash layout and interior.
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       01-25-2010, 1:53 PM Reply   
They do look really good.

I always loved how they always said you don't need ballast when ya got Tap2 system. Now they come with more ballast then most other boats. 2,000lbs in the RZ2...or atleast you can upgrade to that.

Great looking boats
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-25-2010, 3:18 PM Reply   
Anybody have any pics of the wake with one slammed.
Old    Martin C. (jcocci)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-25-2010, 10:50 PM Reply   
LOL that Tige thread that had the huge tattoo was the funniest thing I've ever read on WW. Someone needs to dial that up again.
Old    Caleb Rountree (dlwsrider)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-25-2010, 11:00 PM Reply   
Male Tramp Stamp.

God I felt bad for that guy.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       01-26-2010, 1:19 AM Reply   
Tige makes an awesome boat. I have an 08 20v and have no complaints. I have not been in an RZ other than at the boat shows, but I will guarantee they are just as solid as any mastercraft or Malibu. Most of the people who put down Tige have never even been in one.
Old    Justin Thompson (tchs22)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-26-2010, 6:03 AM Reply   
Buddy of mine has an 08 rz2 and with it slammed with about 4500 lbs wake was to my knees... I'm 5'11" so was pretty big IMO... I've never ridden behind MC but the rz2 beat the SAN230 I rode behind last year
Old                01-26-2010, 6:26 AM Reply   
But you don't have to put weight in a tige...just use the TAPS. j/k Tige is building a good boat nowdays!
Old    Michael Cook (mcook77)      Join Date: Feb 2004       01-26-2010, 6:55 AM Reply   
There is a photo of the tattoo in this thread: http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/602455.html
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-26-2010, 9:06 PM Reply   
Dead thread, are there just no tiges out there?
Old    Jim Zarin (jimmy_z)      Join Date: Jun 2009       01-26-2010, 9:11 PM Reply   
Go to tigeowners.com for more information.
Old    John Bauer (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-26-2010, 11:59 PM Reply   
Tn Tige had some really good looking Tige's at the Nashville Boat Show a few weeks ago..... I even saw Eric Ruck hanging out on one of them.
Old    Ben Pigeon (tigepigeon)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-27-2010, 7:31 AM Reply   
There will be a couple 2010s and a tattoo booth at the Seattle show this weekend...
Old    Jacob Ruppert (jacobs0222i)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-27-2010, 8:01 AM Reply   
^^^^^^^^hahaha. Ben that was great.
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-27-2010, 8:16 AM Reply   
Lets see some boat pics guys
Old    John Bauer (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-27-2010, 2:59 PM Reply   
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Old    Billy Doyle (tntige)      Join Date: Apr 2008       01-27-2010, 6:13 PM Reply   
Pinp Azz boats! Nice plug jonyb
Old    Cody (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-27-2010, 6:17 PM Reply   
I <3 the green
Old    Cody (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-27-2010, 6:22 PM Reply   
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Old    Billy Doyle (tntige)      Join Date: Apr 2008       01-27-2010, 6:56 PM Reply   
Cody you need to buy it. It's on www.onlyinboards.com for below dealer cost.
Old    Cody (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-28-2010, 7:07 AM Reply   
Haha, I wish Billy! I hardly have time to enjoy my 24SSV since I started law school while working, may have to wait until I graduate before I upgrade. I do love the looks of those RZ4's though, and am partial to that tower, but I'm bias.
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-28-2010, 7:53 AM Reply   
Man with boats like that how could they not be a force in the market.
Old    John Bauer (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-28-2010, 8:03 AM Reply   
I've seen the green one on the water, and it's definitely an eye catcher!
Old    Jacob Ruppert (jacobs0222i)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-28-2010, 9:29 AM Reply   
I have never seen that RZ2 tower before is that something new from tige or...
Old    Billy Doyle (tntige)      Join Date: Apr 2008       01-28-2010, 9:36 AM Reply   
Cody when the time is right we will get you in one.;)
dh I think that Tige is quietly becoming a bigger force in the market than most think. I know I have Tige goggles on but it is a fact that Tige is on a roll with their new innovations and styles from the last couple of years and buyers are taking notice. I believe that you will start seeing more and more Tige's on the water everywhere and not just the West Coast.
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       01-28-2010, 9:43 AM Reply   
Jacob,

That is not a Tige tower. It is made by Extreme and is custom.

I beleive that Tige has stepped it up big time. The price tag has gone up to prove it as well.

A guy quoted a well equipped Mastercraft X45 at the Portland (I think) boat show for 78K. I bet you will find the RZ4 at that price or above.
Old    Cody (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-28-2010, 9:56 AM Reply   
Jacob,

That RZ2 belonged to the plant manager at XTP, it was custom built and had custom machined parts for that RZ2. It was a solid rock, built off of the XTP design for the Sea Ray Fission, their "sport" boat.

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Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-28-2010, 10:01 AM Reply   
Tige's are actually the predominant wakeboard boat on our lake. The new ones are very good looking, and I've been riding behind one up until this year, switched to malibu.
Are thewy still making them super heavy? That's the one thing I don't like about them
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-28-2010, 10:05 AM Reply   
^^^ All the same size boats from the various brands are weighing in about the same weight now.
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-28-2010, 10:07 AM Reply   
Our friends 24v was a tank, but it made it hard to manuver, and it used up more gas to tow long sidstances.

When did the lighten them up?
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       01-28-2010, 10:18 AM Reply   
"All the same size boats from the various brands are weighing in about the same weight now"

I would not say all, but yes most.

The Epic 23v dry weight is 3200lbs.

about a 1000lbs less then other 23ft boats.
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-28-2010, 10:32 AM Reply   
Ya, the 24's are definitely not easy to maneuver in the water. The 22's are so much better IMO in regards of maneuvering.

Innov8, I didn't know the spec on the Epic. I retract and will say "most" :-)
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-28-2010, 10:32 AM Reply   
Wow, that's only 200lbs over my VTX.

Our friends tige wake was damn good for no ballast, though it did get a little too lippy and steep when weighted wiht a bunch of people in the boat. Wide wake that would send you straight up. Still I loved riding behind it.
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-28-2010, 7:53 PM Reply   
i like the wake overall alot! I rode behind one this last december and it seemed like every time i edged out hard it slowed the boat WAY down and i had to wait for the speed to pick it back up. Dont know if it was driver error or what. I didnt say anything because it was a pull and i will take what i can get without complaining
Old    Brain Rinse (brainrinse)      Join Date: Aug 2007       01-28-2010, 8:50 PM Reply   
I love the Tige boats I've seen. Fit and finish was excellent, engine was smooth, nice features. But I had the exact same thing that Chase described happen behind an RZ2 last summer. Driver said we were holding speed just fine but there was no way... I'd cut out and start sinking, it wasn't even fun.
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-28-2010, 9:01 PM Reply   
i didnt start to sink bad but i had to sit in the flats and wait for the wash to get out of the wake before i could get on my edge..that was heelside and toeside was a different story lol i felt like i lugged the boat down when i edged in and that threw my timing off..took A HARD slam on a frontroll lol
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-29-2010, 7:19 AM Reply   
^^^ Were the owners running the standard prop or the correct prop for the additional ballast amount?

The normal prop is an Acme 537. When adding ballast, the prop should be changed to an Acme 1135. $.02
Old    Brain Rinse (brainrinse)      Join Date: Aug 2007       01-29-2010, 8:43 AM Reply   
In my case we were in an unweighted demo boat
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-29-2010, 8:59 AM Reply   
i was in a 22ve? correct me if im wrong on the model but i know its the 22 ft. with 1400 ibs of ballast....still with that weight and 5 people the wake was NOWHERE near the wake of the x star we usually ride with the flyhigh system. Although i did love the shape of the wake and was a fun set! i have fun riding behind whatever boat it is weather its stock ballast or the boat is slammed
Old    CMC X Stars (02wakesettervlx)      Join Date: Jun 2001       01-29-2010, 9:14 AM Reply   
I am a MC owner, and I really like the looks of the newer Tiges. If all things were equal, I would definitely look into one. Tige has really stepped it up.
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-29-2010, 10:23 AM Reply   
What things are not equal?
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       01-29-2010, 11:31 AM Reply   
The Wake
Old    Jacob Ruppert (jacobs0222i)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-29-2010, 11:51 AM Reply   
If you were to have an x star with 2,000lbs and a tige RZ2 with 2,000lbs should the wake be comparable?
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-29-2010, 11:59 AM Reply   
^^^ No, because there is a difference it hull's. The hull on the Tige has a more pronounce rocker than the x-Star. That is where Tige utilizes the TAP2 plate to adjust the form of the wake.

However, it would be interesting to see what the difference would be.

(Message edited by dabell on January 29, 2010)
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       01-29-2010, 1:09 PM Reply   
"still with that weight and 5 people the wake was NOWHERE near the wake of the x star we usually ride with the flyhigh system."

I'd agree with this statement 100%, BUT, lets put it into context: Your stock Camaro is nowhere near as fast as my V8 mustang with an aftermarket super charger.

The X-Star Fly High kit is advertised as being 2500 on top of the factory ballast, so the above statement is not an apples to apples comparison.

I've come to realize that the typical Tige wake basher is a bunghole who obviously doesn't like his own boats stock ballast wake, as he loads his own up with 2K plus in additional ballast. Seems hypocritical to me $.02.

*NOTE* not directing this at anyone posting in this thread. So far, the few dingleberries that always seem to turn a thread into bash-fest, have not shown up, and i'm glad.
Old    Erick (dingleberry)      Join Date: Apr 2009       01-29-2010, 2:26 PM Reply   
Hey, Mike - why are you hatin' on dingleberries?
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-29-2010, 2:39 PM Reply   
So how can we get as close as possible comparison. Say Xstar vs RZ4 2k ballast. Anybody want to take some wake photos.
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-29-2010, 2:46 PM Reply   
The better comparison would be the X-star and RZ2.. The RZ4 is a 24'...

That would definitely be interesting and probably fun to board behind both of them.
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       01-29-2010, 2:49 PM Reply   
Oops, sorry Dingle

Actually, the 22ft Tiges will produce a better wake with the same amount of ballast as a 24ft Tige. That extra 2ft takes a lot of extra weight to sink.
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-29-2010, 2:50 PM Reply   
RZ2 it is. Post em if you got em boys.
Old    CMC X Stars (02wakesettervlx)      Join Date: Jun 2001       01-29-2010, 4:35 PM Reply   
I wasn't speaking of the wake by the way. By all things being equal, I was speaking of the fact that I'm on a team deal with Mastercraft, so things aren't equal. Also, I don't have a Tige dealer near me, we have had a couple in the past, but they all dropped the line.
As long as we're talking about wake, I have ridden a lot of different wakes, and yes, the X Star is my favorite, but only if it's dumped. I do have the Fly High system, and always ride with that full. That is my personal opinion though, and I don't expect everyone to agree with me. If someone likes their wake better, it's fine by me.
My point was, I do think that Tige has stepped it up, and I like their new boats. I have never ridden one, so I can't comment on the wake. I think the RZ2 and the RZ4 are great looking boats.
Old    Dhtige Hill (dh03r6)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-29-2010, 5:14 PM Reply   
All very good points.
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-30-2010, 9:04 AM Reply   
All around great boat IMO. The only thing that would turn me away is the speed issue. i guess with a diff. prop it would be golden
Old    Ray Markham (wakeborder5)      Join Date: Jun 2002       01-30-2010, 9:52 AM Reply   
They also might not have had the perfect pass set up with firm enough speed settings
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-30-2010, 10:36 AM Reply   
^^^ Good point Ray. Once the SpeedSet is turned on and the boat is moving forward, the driver should move the throttle past the amount of movement for that specific speed. More than likely that will be WOT.
Old    Cody (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-31-2010, 8:43 AM Reply   
It's been a very long time since I rode behind the RZ2 I posted above, but if there's one thing I remember about the speed control it was that it was smooooth to drive. You don't even feel it take control, and it's very subtle and easy to use. I was a big fan and was really impressed with it, and this comes from a PerfectPass owner. I don't remember any issues behind the boat, I think I would have remembered if it stalled up a little in the flats, but who knows, lots of alcohol consumed since then.
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       01-31-2010, 12:13 PM Reply   
Never had any issues like that with my Tige. I have to believe, like was already stated, that the throttle was probably not pushed down far enough once the cruise control was set.
Old    Ben Pigeon (tigepigeon)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-01-2010, 8:31 PM Reply   
This maybe against WW rules that I have never read, but I received this preview picture of the Dallas show today. Wow favorite Tige since the fox edition back in the day!

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Old    Ben Pigeon (tigepigeon)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-01-2010, 8:33 PM Reply   
....would be a great looking tattoo..just saying
Old    John Bauer (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       02-01-2010, 9:00 PM Reply   
Sorry, but that's hideous!
Old    Ajholt7 (ajholt7)      Join Date: Apr 2009       02-01-2010, 10:45 PM Reply   
Love it!

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