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Old    Stephen Pliler (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-23-2010, 8:23 PM Reply   
So I have advanced to air tricks off the water on cable and i'm curious if many cable riders run fins.

Im riding an SS response, I have not been running fins cause I spent most of my time on the obstacles. I just started loading and this has opened a whole new world up for me.

So Im thinking about sacrificing the benefits of running finless to get a little extra edge when loading...My question.... Is it worth it?
Old    Eder Garavito Garavito (spicychalupa69)      Join Date: May 2005       01-23-2010, 8:51 PM Reply   
It'll only help you learn to really dig in your edge. You dont NEED fins, no one really does. Trick skis done have fins and some dudes are just nuts on those things. Now, to answer your question, "is it worth it"? Well dude, honestly, if its not, put em back on, it'll take you two minutes

I enjoyed riding my Reflex and Recoil Finless. Its tough, but definitely fun! Once you get used to it its all good.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-23-2010, 9:08 PM Reply   
You don't need them, they only help me get on edge but not stay on edge... when you turn/load you (should) mostly use the edge...thats why they call it just that.

Once you roll onto the edge though they really don't do
Old    Peter Ward (petew)      Join Date: Dec 2008       01-24-2010, 5:47 AM Reply   
Of course they do somthing.

I can 200% garantee you i could tell the diffrence when edging on a board with or without fins

For example i even prefer 0.8 fins to 1.0 for the exact amount of traction and release i like.

Like Eder said it only takes 2 mins to swap em. Try both and roll with what you feel is most comfy for you. If you have been riding finless for a while it may take a couple goes to get used to riding with them.
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-24-2010, 6:43 AM Reply   
I use a Motive without the bolt on center fins. I find the molded fins to give plenty of grip for loading the line, and they don't cause any problems on the sliders. A lot will depend on your board. You may want to try some different boards. I remember trying other boards with molded fins that didn't grip near as well as my Motive.
Old    ross gechie (ross009)      Join Date: Jun 2008       01-24-2010, 7:02 AM Reply   
I only ride cable and i dont ride with fins i dont find it really makes enough of a difference when edging to use them for the sake of catching them on a rail.
Old    59yroldkid            01-24-2010, 9:36 AM Reply   
At age 61 I'm still clearly within the ranks of the beginners although I have experimented some with the fins on my '07 Recoil. I started out with 1" fins, then went finless for a while, then got some .75" fins. After an injury from a particularly hard fall, I went back to riding finless for several months, while concentrating on low-impact exercises such as surface 180's.

After I was fully recovered from the injury, I started working on clearing the wake, which I have not yet mastered. I found that, as a general rule, when I got decent pop, I would crash when I landed. Essentially, I needed fins for the landings because I was not consistently edging the board properly as I landed.

I finally put the .75" fins back on which helped my landings when attempting to clear the wake, but I was surprised at how difficult it was with fins to break the edge loose for a surface trick. I looked unsuccessfully for smaller fins.

One day I had occasion to ride with a guy who had a Company board which was designed to use a center fin on each end, as well as the four corner fins that the slingshot comes with.

I went home and laid out the longitudinal centerline of my board and drilled two holes on each each end on the centerline. I then put a .75" fin in the center of each end of the board. (I'm sure many others have tried this also). I could now break the edges loose fairly easily, and the board was substantially more stable on landings than when it was finless.

After a few rides with the two .75" fins I decided that I needed more stability for the landings, so I replaced the two .75" fins with two of the 1" fins. At the present time, this is the optimal configuration for my board. As my landings improve, I will go back to the two .75" fins and, hopefully, will eventually return to riding finless again.
Old    Jay Conrad (pwningjr)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-24-2010, 7:57 PM Reply   
^^ Very hackerific, Paul.
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       01-25-2010, 7:58 PM Reply   
no fins will in my opinion eventually limit you on your air tricks, not saying it cant be done but you'll just have to work harder at it.

I would recomend trying to get some lyman fins onto your ss, u might have to custom drill the hole but the lyman fins are awesome for edge and release of air tricks and they work well on the sliders too, which cannot be said of the stock slingshot fins, theyre too sharp and catch too easily.
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-25-2010, 8:04 PM Reply   
cdi fins has some interesting fins, nothing smaller (or rather shallower) than .75 BUT they have shorter based ones which will have less surface area overall for a looser feel. Especially the wakeskate fin
http://cdifins.com/
Old    Joe Pinkston (dtownwakeboard)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-26-2010, 1:45 AM Reply   
Fins are not as important as your technique. But experimenting without fins will improve your edging technique which will improve your riding as a whole. Dont cut up your board to add more fins...just learn how to ride it
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-26-2010, 6:38 AM Reply   
I keep hearing Lyman fins what are the difference between them and the watson. I am about ready to pull the trigger on a hybrid. Are the lyman fins smaller is it something that LF would ship you?
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       01-26-2010, 8:12 AM Reply   
What do you cable riders think about a board like the Vibe and its fins? They have a very long base (like 12 inches) but look to be less than .5 inches deep.
Old    Philip (n00b)      Join Date: Mar 2006       01-27-2010, 3:21 AM Reply   
Tampawake the lyman fins are part of a quad fin set up and they are cupped and they are quiet small so they improve your grip but they do not catch on rails and sliders as easily as conventional non cupped fins like SS stock fins.
Old    j hill (jhilltn)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-27-2010, 6:55 AM Reply   
they're fining people for doing air tricks? owc i guess?
Old    Benjamin (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       01-27-2010, 7:55 AM Reply   
I've been riding cable almost exclusively for 6 years. Fins, IMO, make a HUGE difference. I think the new shane with the molded fins is perfect for cable. Without fins it's extremely difficult for me to hold a long steady edge . Tracking without fins sucks.
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-27-2010, 8:06 AM Reply   
+1 to what bendow said. Molded fins track well and don't interfer with sliders or even surface spins.

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