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Old    Roy K. Munson (roy_munson)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-15-2009, 7:03 AM Reply   
I dont understand the difference. Rusty recently landed an indy moby dick. Dean Smith lands a tantrum to backside 3. what?
Old    Matt (ncsuuh)      Join Date: Jan 2007       10-15-2009, 7:39 AM Reply   
Moby Dick- Tantrum with a handle pass BS 3
Tantrum to BS 3- Tantrum, then a BS 3. Its not done in sequence with the invert like the MD.
Old    Justin Jenkins (lesstalkmoreride)      Join Date: Nov 2008       10-15-2009, 7:45 AM Reply   
Its all how you perceive it...call it what you will, sounds to be the same trick. Everyone is different though, both in execution of such trickery and perception...potato/potaughto
-Im sure they look different though; thats the beauty of style and individuality
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       10-15-2009, 7:49 AM Reply   
Same trick...just with a later handle pass.
Old    Matt Steele (steelesrt)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-15-2009, 7:50 AM Reply   
Moby is done on the way up. while a tantrum to bs3 is done on the way down.
Old    Roy K. Munson (roy_munson)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-15-2009, 9:03 AM Reply   
thats seems kind of wack. rusty's indy moby dick looks like what you guys are explaining. if you grab the tantrum on the way up your going to have finish the rotation on the way down anyway. just my lousy opinion: id call it all a moby dick.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       10-15-2009, 9:10 AM Reply   
Erik Ruck does a perfect Tantrum back 3
it looks nothing like a moby dick
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       10-15-2009, 9:10 AM Reply   
ITS THE SAME TRICK, BUT LIKE THEY SAY ALL IN PERCEPTION. I LOOK AT IT AS THE SAME TRICK JUST DONE A LOT DIFFERENTLY.
Old    Roy K. Munson (roy_munson)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-15-2009, 9:23 AM Reply   
can someone post a video a legit tantrum back 3?
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       10-15-2009, 9:33 AM Reply   
a moby dick passes the handle almost immediately, and doesn't have the "tantrum" over the back look. The T2B3 does the tantrum, and then to blind but with an additional 180 to make it a 360
Old    Garrett Cortese (garrett_cortese)      Join Date: Mar 2003       10-15-2009, 9:56 AM Reply   
Tantrum backside 3 @ 1:15
http://www.alliancewake.com/wake/derome-brothers-from-above/

Moby Dick @ 0:12 (first trick)
http://www.alliancewake.com/wake/rough-cuts-dylan-rivait/
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       10-15-2009, 10:04 AM Reply   
THE SAME TRICK JUST DONE A LOT DIFFERENTLY. ONE HAS AN EARLY GRAB, THE OTHER A LATE GRAB. ONLY DIFFERENCE. FUNDAMENTALS ARE THE SAME.
Old     (txwakerider)      Join Date: Oct 2008       10-15-2009, 10:11 AM Reply   
I agree I dont think it deserve a new name it's the same trick just done differently, A roll to blind done passing the handle early looks completely different than a late handle pass roll to blind and they didn't rename the trick so why rename it in this case?
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       10-15-2009, 11:47 AM Reply   
Agreed. Just like there shouldn't be a mexican roll to bling and a progressive roll to blind...even though they look very different.
Old    Ray M (wakeborder5)      Join Date: Jun 2002       10-15-2009, 12:31 PM Reply   
LEE HAVE YOU STILL NOT FIGURED OUT HOW TO TURN OFF CAPS LOCK YET???
Old    B Poser (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-15-2009, 12:50 PM Reply   
I agree that the mechanics are the same, but it is not the same trick. I would be willing to bet that the T2B3 is much harder to do than Moby Dick.
Old     (txwakerider)      Join Date: Oct 2008       10-15-2009, 3:21 PM Reply   
Depends on who you are some tricks are easy for some people that are hard for others. The fact is though that it is a tantrum with backside handle pass 360 and that by definition is a MOBY DICK
Old    Scooter (czap)      Join Date: Oct 2007       10-15-2009, 5:16 PM Reply   
Do yall call a roll to blind with a late bs 1 a different name then one with an early bs 1?? didnt think so. Its a mody dick. Some people just like to call tricks by there technical names.. like calling a slim chance a front mobe
Old    Adam Van Dyke (lfadam)      Join Date: Nov 2008       10-15-2009, 5:55 PM Reply   
I see why people do it, but its still a Moby Dick. I havent heard people call Indy crow mobes a indy frontroll FS 360, even though that is what it is. I feel like alliance likes to do this...I remember a come correct about learning a "TS Frontroll to revert" as in a scarecrow doing the FS 180 late.

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