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Old    M S (tonka)      Join Date: May 2006       09-14-2009, 5:22 PM Reply   
I read on a recent post that Rathy was "supposedly" trying bs 12's. After seeing his bs 10's, I'm sure he could even stick the bs 12 this year. One day, I think he will turn a wrap bs 12 into a switch ts wrap fs 1440. How do you think the first 14 will go down?
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       09-14-2009, 6:15 PM Reply   
Very quickly and from a long way up! I'm guessin Switch Toe. With the wrapped moves coming back big, I gotta put my chips on it being wrapped.
Old    Dave (daveronix199)      Join Date: Feb 2009       09-14-2009, 6:15 PM Reply   
no idea rathy is nutts
Old    Paul (gherk)      Join Date: Aug 2001       09-14-2009, 6:52 PM Reply   
I don't see it happening at all. The 12 Harf landed looked seriously sketched out with a butt check at the end to stand it up. No knock on Harf's 12, but it just seems exponentially more difficult to land anything after a 9 for the pros. If it does happen, definitely wrapped just to get the momentum for the spin.
Old    shane mckenna (mckenna)      Join Date: Mar 2008       09-14-2009, 6:59 PM Reply   
it will happen. wakes will get bigger. so will the moves. more 12s will need to go down before 14s come into it though.
Old    Robby Jayroe (jayroe65)      Join Date: Dec 2008       09-14-2009, 7:48 PM Reply   
I heard harf has something really big planed for his doc. coming out next year and that the video is going to be pushing the sport like nothing else before i am sure we will see another 12 but could it be a 1440 hum i wonder what it could be.
Old    John Haile (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-14-2009, 7:49 PM Reply   
I think we'll see Rathy throwing 12s all over the place this year. I think he has the skill for a 14, but there are still so many things he can be trying before he even starts working on that particular move.
Old    Andrew Moreton (andrew_moreton)      Join Date: Feb 2003       09-14-2009, 8:01 PM Reply   
Don't forget about Steel. Wake to wake 10 cleaner than any 10 off the double up so far.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       09-14-2009, 8:02 PM Reply   
If I was rathy and could throw 12's all over I would sure as hell try and be the first guy to hit the 1440.

I think it can be done, but when it is it will be ugly.... the video will be posted here and everyone will talk how it wasn't clean enough for them
Old    david (dnp33)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-14-2009, 8:38 PM Reply   
i don't see it happening for a while.
harf spun about as fast as it looks like is humanly possible so i'd say its gonna take bigger wakes for a 14 to be landed.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       09-15-2009, 6:43 AM Reply   
Yes
Old    David F (focker)      Join Date: Aug 2006       09-15-2009, 6:59 AM Reply   
If you could combine Danny's ability to spin off axis toeside and Rusty's ability to land anything blind - possibly. I'll say I dont see it happening at this point, not next year anyway. I could honestly see Rathy doing it wrapped backside just as much as anyone doing it toeside/frontside.

When you do a toe 9 you land open to the boat, this is MUCH easier than having to land wrapped in the blind position or making another half turn with the handle pass. This is why every pro can do a 900 and only a handful of folks have done 1080's. And of the handful of people who have done 1080's only a a few have actually landed multiple ones.
Old    Billy Boozer (bboozer)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-15-2009, 7:50 AM Reply   
I was wondering, since the wrapped question was brought up, if anyone has tried a double wrap. I know that it sounds crazy, but from my old kneeboarding days, my brother used to do 720's with a double wrap... I tried it a few times, but the rope always got hung up for me..... Just a thought, and you might want to use a trick release, since you could get hurt if the rope did not unwrap....
Old     (hsryan33)      Join Date: Jan 2009       09-15-2009, 9:47 AM Reply   
boats and wakes need to get bigger. once that happens then bigger spins will happen more.
Old    Jake Sonnevelt (the_bum)      Join Date: Jul 2008       09-15-2009, 10:16 AM Reply   
I see Harf doing it. If you go back to the video of some of his 12 attempts, a few had time to keep going. The one he landed wasn't anywhere near as big as some of the attemptss
Old    Skubz (bflat53212)      Join Date: Mar 2003       09-15-2009, 10:53 AM Reply   
Man, I hope not. Like Nick said, it's gonna be ugly. I'm not gonna say the whole, I would rather see....out into the flats, but come on. After a certain point you look like a snowboarder in the pipe hucking ugly crap where there upper body is 180 degrees ahead of there lower body, just ugly!

I hope with bigger wakes you will just see more style added to 9's.
Old    Paul (gherk)      Join Date: Aug 2001       09-15-2009, 1:47 PM Reply   
Someone put up a bounty! I got 5 on it.
Old    M S (tonka)      Join Date: May 2006       09-15-2009, 3:08 PM Reply   
If a 14 on water looks anything like a 14 on snow, it's gonna look ugly. I'm sure Rathy will grab a bs 12, so grabbing a wrap ts 14 is possible too. Either way, it's still gonna look like total carnage.
Old    Ben Wilcox (benjaminp)      Join Date: Nov 2008       09-15-2009, 8:58 PM Reply   
Way too much math in this thread.
Old    Trevor (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-17-2009, 8:41 PM Reply   
speaking of harf spinning/doing something cool in an upcoming documentary, I've been a bit out of the loop on backside spins since the backside 9 rusty landed, apparently rathy's been doing backside 10's? anyways, Harf has some crazy awesome corked out backside 7 with a nose grab, shane called it a mocha latte I believe, he got booed on one in brostock and it seemed like he could have easily gone to 9. thoughts? I know you're all thinking about quadrupple digits but a clean completely corked out backside 900 with a legitimate nose grab? sounds pretty cool to me.
Old    Mike K (mike2001)      Join Date: Feb 2008       09-17-2009, 9:08 PM Reply   
1440? Why is it that once a new trick is landed, its only cool for a couple days and then everyone just looks to the next bigger trick. I say skip it and go straight for the 1620...grabbed and backside.
Old     (torontothunder)      Join Date: Feb 2009       09-17-2009, 9:40 PM Reply   
I agree with Ben Wilcox...

Trevor- Is this what your asking for?

http://bfyproductions.com/2009/08/defy-teaser-danny-harf-first-glimpse/
Old    Trevor (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-19-2009, 8:21 PM Reply   
haha well I guess I hve been out of it for a while, but thank you for the link toronto, that was a pretty cool teaser.

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