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Old    Kevin (pri3st)      Join Date: Aug 2007       07-09-2009, 7:52 AM Reply   
Thinking about buying a wakesurf board & some more weight for the boat. My boat- '93 Sunsetter.
Ballast now - 680# rear seat sac (in place of the rear seat,duh) & 370# tube sac in middle ski locker. I was thinking about adding another sac on the port side of the motorbox. OR..could I lay my rear seat sac next to the motorbox towards the port/rear & get a decent wake?
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9500/img2692d.jpg

Can it be done? Is it even worth it? Will we be able to let go of the rope? What size board?
Inspire me...let's see some pics.
Old    Charlie (biggc1)      Join Date: May 2009       07-09-2009, 8:12 AM Reply   
I will let you know how mine does on Sunday. I just picked up a board and I have an 86 Sunsport.

I have 2 370# in the rear and I was thinking about getting another 370 or maybe a 750 for along side the motor box. I also have a bow sac I could try filling a little.
Old    dimitri (baddad)      Join Date: Dec 2004       07-11-2009, 9:20 PM Reply   
I run a 750# sac along the dog house shoved all the way back to the rear bench. Then another 750# sac inline with the first, on top of it, but the second sac is further back. It rides over the bench all the way back on top of the stern. 2nd sac filled to about 60-75% full. 400-500# in the bow. 20' direct drive. Everyone onboard toward the weighted side for the most part. I called Acme and bought a new prop for all that weight.
We have alot of fun with this little boat!
Old    chris cromulius (cromulius)      Join Date: Sep 2007       07-14-2009, 3:52 PM Reply   
I have run up to about 1k in the fat seat and 3 440's stacked port side but they only prolly 400 ea. Little less when we had a couple of more people in the boat. Always put the bow into oncoming wakes unless you want to call the insurance company.
Old    Eric Lassiter (ericlassiter)      Join Date: May 2007       07-15-2009, 8:38 AM Reply   
i would recommend adding two more sacs to whatever side that you will be surfing on. it's all about getting that back corner down as much as possible. i'd leave the ski locker sac, maybe drag that back sac more to the side you'll be surfing, then throw a sac next to the engine, then one more on top of all that.

remember, not only keep the bow high when you're crossing rollers, but also only make turns to the side that you're surfing. let's say you're surfing the port side wake (passenger side). you're going to only want to make left turns when someone falls because if you make a right turn, that back corner of the boat will essentially slide through the water and there will be a flowing river in the back of your boat.
Old    gp (goinboardn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       07-15-2009, 10:53 PM Reply   
No doubt you can get a decent wave with a DD

1998 Sky Supreme DD

400# hard tank in rear
400# locker sack
3 250# fat buddies stuffed in the corner (two on the floor in a L shape around the motor box and one on top of the L) of whichever side the rider is on.



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Old    Deepcove (deepcove)      Join Date: Mar 2004       07-16-2009, 9:33 PM Reply   
2004 Moomba mobius LS DD

350 lbs stock tank in rear
250 between back seat and motor box
540 lbs beside motor
Another 540 lbs on top and onto rear seatUpload
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       07-17-2009, 7:35 AM Reply   
87 Supra SunSport.
My pic diary is at:
http://www.supraboats.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=3630

Weight:
-350 rear ski locker + 250 under rear bench seat,
-750 on the floor by the motor,
-200 - 350 in the bow port side,
= 1500 - 1700 lbs this is probably the MAX weight we run. Depending on the size of the crew, we may run less weight.

ACME 913 prop is PERFECT!!! Thanks JT from NettleProps.com

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Old    Kevin (pri3st)      Join Date: Aug 2007       07-20-2009, 6:28 PM Reply   
I'm going for it. Going to order a couple more sacs. Now how about a board. I really don't have a clue. What size? type? Brand? I would like one board that numerous people can use.
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       07-22-2009, 8:52 AM Reply   
If you need a multi-rider/big rider board get something bigger like Hyp Broadcast 5.6 or an Inland Surfer Blue Lake if you can afford it. Shred Stixx have a great reputation. If you want a board more closely sized to you, what is your weight and height?
Old    Kevin (pri3st)      Join Date: Aug 2007       07-23-2009, 10:49 AM Reply   
6'3" 200#. The oldest son & wife are the lightest people that would be riding, 100-105#.

(Message edited by pri3st on July 23, 2009)
Old    Austin Woo (awoo)      Join Date: Nov 2002       07-25-2009, 9:43 AM Reply   
this is behind my 84 ski nautique.
750lbs in the rear and 550lbs on the surf side.Upload
Old    Daniel (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-03-2009, 8:30 PM Reply   
Still working on perfect weight. normally 400 in back, 400 on surf side, and partially filled 1200 in bow depending on load. Upload
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Old    DUCKDIVER (duckdiver)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-13-2009, 5:50 PM Reply   
I HAVE A FLY HIGH DD SURF SAC. L SHAPED AND WEIGHS 1000LBS. BRAND NEW , ANYONE NEED ONE.
Old    Daniel (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-13-2009, 7:34 PM Reply   
How much?
Old    Wotan (wotan)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-14-2009, 8:17 AM Reply   
1987 Saltare -- 3 x 700lb sacs. 1 behind the engine box, two on the port-side floor. Only 2 people in boat on this pic but typically 5-6 people in boat and the wave is a little longer and bigger. Upload
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-14-2009, 10:55 AM Reply   
Wave looks pretty thick and meaty. Do you have a trim tab?
Old    Wotan (wotan)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-14-2009, 11:35 AM Reply   
I've got an "anti-cavitation plate" that is only manually adjustable -- have never played with it -- might be worth exploring?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-14-2009, 12:13 PM Reply   
Yeah you could totally lengthen that wave a little. You could also put a hydraulic-electric trim tab on.
Old    Wotan (wotan)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-14-2009, 1:06 PM Reply   
Up or down to lengthen it? It doesn't have a lot of adjustment.

I think the electric/hydraulic trim tab may be more work than you think -- I don't have access to the backside of the transom below the gas tank (below the swim deck.) I would assume I'd have to run electrical or install backing plates down there?
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-14-2009, 1:32 PM Reply   
I installed it on my boat, took a couple of hours and cost 300 or so off ebay. If you can't get to the transom, I wouldn't do it. Put the plate down a little, it will force the nose down and thus make the pocket longer. I might also clean the wave up a little.
Old    Art (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       08-14-2009, 8:17 PM Reply   
Down to lengthen the pocket up to steepen the wake.
Plate down = bow down. Plate up = bow up.
Just like Duffy says.
Old    DUCKDIVER (duckdiver)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-17-2009, 2:26 PM Reply   
hey cowwboy. $200 for the sac. where are you located.
Old    Wotan (wotan)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-19-2009, 2:54 PM Reply   
I put the plate down and you're right.... wake still had good push but was a lot longer.... I think I put it down a little further than I prefer, but it's good to know!

Not sure how it will effect my wakeboard wake... but... well... I don't care that much!
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-19-2009, 3:28 PM Reply   
Sweet! I love my wakeplate, it totally changes everything

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