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Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-10-2009, 7:43 AM Reply   
My little brother is really not that boat savey. Well he is, but when booze are involved he tosses all his boat knowledge out the window. The lake I live on is super low right now, as are all lakes in MN. So the other day he takes out my X-star, after he calls me and says, "Hey man, I think I put a ding in the prop." I go right to the typical lecture about not being an idiot, and paying attention.

So yeah it had nothing to with the prop, check this crap out. In fact the prop is just fine. I have not Idea how in the hell he did this.

Old     (2006maliblue)      Join Date: Mar 2009       07-10-2009, 7:46 AM Reply   
Looks like little brother is going to be working overtime to pay and fix big brothers boat!

Good news is you can wake surf, just keep the boat turning to the left and go in circles! lol
Old     (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       07-10-2009, 7:55 AM Reply   
Hit bottom while he was turning?
Old     (norcalbordr)      Join Date: Feb 2006       07-10-2009, 8:00 AM Reply   
I'd say you have a bent shaft Andy!
Old     (jake651)      Join Date: Sep 2008       07-10-2009, 8:04 AM Reply   
Ouch! Been there, done that!
Old     (ncsumalibu)      Join Date: Mar 2009       07-10-2009, 8:07 AM Reply   
You need a BFH. If it can't fix the shaft it will sure do a number on your little brother. I understand completely as my little brother tore up a prop 2 weekends ago and set me back $400.
Old     (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-10-2009, 8:07 AM Reply   
Old     (bchesley)      Join Date: Apr 2001       07-10-2009, 8:07 AM Reply   
I am not sure how you do that and not damage the prop. unless you hit a stump so hard that it bounced high enough that the prop cleared it. Pretty crazy but not that uncommon. I have nailed stuff before. Your insurance should take care of it. Just dont tell you brother. He should be good for some cash on the deal.
Old     (mastercraft1995)      Join Date: Nov 2002       07-10-2009, 8:45 AM Reply   
That hurts.
Old     (kamighazi)      Join Date: Nov 2008       07-10-2009, 8:49 AM Reply   
Yeah bro, we're real real low down here in TX too. I am super careful with my ride and I managed to high center my supra in ankle deep water IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAKE!

$4600 later it was fixed. strut looked like yours, rudder as about 30 degrees off, and had spider webs all over the bottom.

If you get away with a strut and shaft minus a motor alignment and glass repair, consider yourself (and bro) luck man.

Have no idea how its just the strut though. seriously, what?
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-10-2009, 8:50 AM Reply   
Well I think what happened is that he had the boat slammed out had like 10 people on it so she was super low riding. There is one spot on the lake with some nasty rock. I think he prolly took a massive roll over the rock that picked the boat up and slammed it down on the drive shaft, leaving the prop basically unharmed. But again I have not idea.
Old     (morgs)      Join Date: Nov 2005       07-10-2009, 9:07 AM Reply   
We did exactly the same thing on our X-Star a couple of years ago. The lake was loaded with wood and we ran over big stump. Must have gotten wedged in between the prop shaft, prop shaft housing and or hull somehow and bent the whole shaft and housing, looked just like yours Andy. The prop was somehow fine also.
Old     (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-10-2009, 9:15 AM Reply   
I did the same thing as well at one of our lakes in the interior that is really shallow. I was a bit lucky though. Once all pulled apart it was only the strut that was bent and the prop having to be fixed the shaft was still fine. If you can get a hold of a puller it's not too hard to change out.
Old     (showmedonttellme)      Join Date: Mar 2008       07-10-2009, 9:28 AM Reply   
I'm going with 'Gas, turn, slam.' Caught the rock or log square on the driveline holder. 2 Ft forward it was the scags, 2 ft in arrears, bye bye prop and rudder.

Sucks Bro! Luckily you're riding with the Scud (today?) so you arent to pissed.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-10-2009, 9:45 AM Reply   

I have a puller and like 4 props so I am covered there. Nothing like spending $100 to have a strut overnighted to you! YEAH!
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-10-2009, 9:49 AM Reply   
That's nothing. I took out the prop, rudder, strut, shaft, and gel coat a few weeks ago. I snapped the rudder in two pieces and watched the lower half skip across the water like a flat rock. Oops...
Old     (wakeviolater)      Join Date: Sep 2004       07-10-2009, 9:50 AM Reply   
you should be able to fix that with a sledge hammer.
Old     (wazzy)      Join Date: Nov 2001       07-10-2009, 9:58 AM Reply   
at least it's just a 'ding'... dang that sucks man
Old     (ironcross25)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-10-2009, 10:03 AM Reply   
"you should be able to fix that with a sledge hammer"
BFH's fix anything
Old     (puckinshat)      Join Date: Sep 2003       07-10-2009, 10:09 AM Reply   

Was that out on Bald Eagle? I am on Big Marine and bent my prop a bit last weekend. We are about 2ft of water level low compared to last year. It is insane. Hopefully, it's only the shaft...
Old     (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       07-10-2009, 10:22 AM Reply   
That really sucks andy!
Old     (wakescene)      Join Date: Feb 2001       07-10-2009, 10:43 AM Reply   
If the shaft isn't bent, it's a SUPER SUPER EASY repair.
My concerns here are the Shaft Log, and the Coupler on the transmission.

Does the strut have any visible markings on it? It should have some type of ding or abrasion on it indicating what hit it.
Old     (skelley19)      Join Date: Aug 2008       07-10-2009, 10:43 AM Reply   
Good luck with your boat that sucks! I wish I could send you guys some of this water in MA. My dock is practically under water from all the rain we have gotten the past month. I have never seen my lake this high in the spring never mind mid-summer.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-10-2009, 11:05 AM Reply   

THere is nothing, no marks or anything anywhere. Just a bent Strut and I am almost 100% sure that the shaft is bent.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-10-2009, 11:07 AM Reply   

Yeah it was on Bald Eagle, the lake is about 3.5 feet lower than it should be freaking crazy. Not as bad as White Bear Lake, which is about 8 feet down.
Old     (garret_s)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-10-2009, 11:13 AM Reply   
Oh wow. Always sorry to see someone out of commission for something dumb like that. Is he going to foot the bill?
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       07-10-2009, 12:17 PM Reply   
Jarrod does good work. He also essentially left the prop in one piece. Now, you tell me.... How do you break off a rudder and bend a strut, but leave the prop with only small bends.

SKILLS!!! Ha, ha, ha.

Andy, fly out for next week. We've got ya covered. The boat will be back and the boys from CWB will be in town. It'll get you feeling better in no-time.
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       07-10-2009, 12:35 PM Reply   
how is MN low??? our lakes in Wisco are too full, crazy.

That sucks... I have officially banned my brother from using our boat with certain friends of his, and when booze is around... my brother is extremely stupid though.
Old    star_star            07-10-2009, 12:40 PM Reply   

what is that screen on the transome next to the port side exhaust?
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       07-10-2009, 12:44 PM Reply   
ballast intake
Old    star_star            07-10-2009, 12:54 PM Reply   
i have had two xstars 05 and 08 and mine are on the bottom. are those extra add-ons for the fly high?
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       07-10-2009, 2:10 PM Reply   
If the Strut is bent like that, then I would agree Andy, the shaft is probably toast as well.

That sucks, but it could have been much worse.
Old     (mnwakerider)      Join Date: Jun 2004       07-10-2009, 2:14 PM Reply   
Ryan did that! Dang, is he still working in the insurance business these days? Sounds like he needs to insure himself... Tell him John Brine says hey.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       07-10-2009, 2:32 PM Reply   
They should that in an ad showing how strong their fiberglass work is.
Old     (mro)      Join Date: Jun 2008       07-10-2009, 3:05 PM Reply   
Must be something going around
mines better - the prop took a chunk out of the hull.
i think i need therapy now
Old     (czap)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-10-2009, 7:12 PM Reply   
brass or stainless prop?

same thing happened to ours, we had a stainless prop on and instead of the prop taking the hit the strut taco`d and effed up the fiberglass pretty bad...

good luck on that one man! hopefully your hull and engine alighment are still solid
Old     (chaser)      Join Date: Sep 2006       07-11-2009, 7:53 AM Reply   
Depends where you are in Wiconsin. Many Northern WI lakes are very low. Depends on the lake type too. Up by Eagle River area some lakes are 2-3 feet low and right next door the lake levels are fine. A lake we camp on every year has been 2-3 feet low for the last 3 years. Makes landing the boat a bear.
Old    thebiggmann            07-11-2009, 5:32 PM Reply   
Haha I was just gonna say. Speak for yourself nick! Lol were really low in northern wisconsin
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       07-11-2009, 6:58 PM Reply   
shoot.... here water is just a flowin'

crazy what a couple of hours driving will do.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-14-2009, 10:17 AM Reply   
Getting it fixed today, I will let you know the damage once its repaired.
Old     (wakescene)      Join Date: Feb 2001       07-14-2009, 11:12 AM Reply   
By this you mean that you will let your brother know "The Damage" once it's repaired!!!
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-14-2009, 11:36 AM Reply   
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-14-2009, 11:40 AM Reply   
July 5th
we were 40 yards off shore in 10 feet of water

going 20 mph and hit a stump

it hit in the middle of the boat, flexed the hull (or that's the theory)

when it rebounded (un flexed...) it sent the prop through the bottom of the boat

I didn't even know that could happen

prop, gel coat, fiberglass, strut, shaft....

$5200 insurance $$ is in the mail on it's way

the winds of April, May and June are gone
the drought of August and September hasn't arrived yet

the month of July without a boat

Old     (puckinshat)      Join Date: Sep 2003       07-14-2009, 11:53 AM Reply   
I don't get it Cliff? Got any pics? Can you draw me a diagram? I am a visual learner
Old     (tuneman)      Join Date: Mar 2002       07-14-2009, 12:06 PM Reply   
Bent strut and no dings? Seems like someone may have been power turning with a fully loaded boat. It's not the first boat I've seen that way from power turns.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       07-15-2009, 9:49 AM Reply   
Well It was no where near as bad as I thought or that my mechanic thought it was going to be...

All in all it was just a bent strut, with no other damage to anything, in fact we didn't even have to re-align the engine. Sooooo the Total Damage was:

$214.50 - New Strut
$145.50 - Labor
$450 - Unrepairable Achme Prop that was BRAND NEW.
$810.00 Owed to me by my brother.

Here are some shots of the repair.


Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       07-15-2009, 9:57 AM Reply   
Good to hear, glad it wasn't to bad.
Old     (puckinshat)      Join Date: Sep 2003       07-15-2009, 12:12 PM Reply   
Save the busted strut and give it to him as a xmas present. Glad is wasn't too bad.
Old    Ben Kerran            07-15-2009, 12:20 PM Reply   
or his next 8 X-mas presents :-)


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