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Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-12-2009, 8:51 PM Reply   
In the clip he does a tail press through a turn at about 3:44.Anybody ever do that or know how hard it would be.Tips would be much welcomed.also i'm lookin for tips on how to do a tumble turn also.help please.
Old    shane mckenna (mckenna)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-12-2009, 8:53 PM Reply   
what are you talking bout?
Old    Ronix One (ronix_one)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-12-2009, 8:56 PM Reply   
Im assuming from Counterfeit this?
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-12-2009, 8:57 PM Reply   
Dang sorry forgot to post the link.here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5f_22oYrI
Old    Kris (misfits1981)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-12-2009, 10:14 PM Reply   
I want to say that Wakeboarding Magazine covered this trick in one of their older "How to do everything" issues. I know that doesn't help much but maybe someone can confirm that. Either way, it looks super cool. Thats what I like about Murray. He goes out and has fun every single time.
Old    WakePowell Chris (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-12-2009, 11:28 PM Reply   
tantrum to blind, best done by The Boog Master him self! edit I think tantrum to blind is best done by him, but that tail press is sick! Lean back, and I think throw the crack away! good luck

(Message edited by epic1 on March 12, 2009)
Old    murrayair            03-13-2009, 12:05 AM Reply   
If Murray had a signature move, I think it would be the 313 or the Blind Judge. No one does them better.
Old    shane mckenna (mckenna)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-13-2009, 1:20 AM Reply   
murray sig = raley

313 - josh sanders
Old    Nick Yochman (lakemiltonwake08)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-13-2009, 5:12 AM Reply   
Tumbleturn? Learn how to barefoot. That's where it came from. I don't know really how to explain it except cut out and build some speed, Try to stay more on your upper back, and make sure your board isn't dragging in the water. I know that wasn't much help but it's really something you have to figure out for yourself.
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-13-2009, 6:03 AM Reply   
I'm pretty sure I still have that magazine. Nose blunt.

def...blind judge. Blew my mind seeing that for the first time.
Old    justinh            03-13-2009, 6:24 AM Reply   
Raley was invented by Shapiro and 313 by Murray.
Old    B Poser (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-13-2009, 7:34 AM Reply   
I thought that Chet Raley actually invented the Raley?
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-13-2009, 9:00 AM Reply   
i just said that it was his signature trick because i have never seen anybody even come close to holding a tail press that long.lets keep this thread going so everybody show your favorite trick by your favorite rider, mine is murray doing a s-bend in the video he did with Gerry nun.Sorry don't know what it's called but on youtube they have it listed as awesome wakeboarding.you can get to it by following videos off my link.

(Message edited by michaelb on March 13, 2009)
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       03-13-2009, 9:01 AM Reply   
To me, the Blind Judge is all Murray.
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       03-13-2009, 9:22 AM Reply   
bbr - I think Chet was coaching shapiro, and named it for him. I could be wrong though.
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       03-13-2009, 9:25 AM Reply   
I think you're right train.
Old    David Miller (otown_dave)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-13-2009, 9:30 AM Reply   
X5 Blind judge... I love that section from counterfeit, that's what started me in doing power slides & the front slides. I've tried the tail slide a few times you have to put all your weight back to get the board up like that. maybe the master him self will chime in on that trick....
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-13-2009, 9:54 AM Reply   
Murray if your out there i would be humbled by your advice on this subject.
Old    John Haile (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       03-13-2009, 9:58 AM Reply   
I'm thinking of Murray's ts raley bs 180... thats a signature move
Old    Ozark King (onthewatermo)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-13-2009, 10:01 AM Reply   
Also note for that shot he is riding a flexboard (Roam) on which it is much easier to press - not detracting from the length or verticality (yeah I said it) of his.
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-13-2009, 10:10 AM Reply   
yeah i know i got one this winter did a tail press in my friends lake while their suburban was pulling me.it was a little harder than i remember(the suburban may have had some thing to do with it),I'm dying to ride that thing i may go some time during spring break.
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       03-13-2009, 10:30 AM Reply   
at the end of this video, I do one.. Nothing compared to Shaun's of course, but I thought it looked pretty good..

http://www.blackwaterrydas.com/OnlyTheBeginning.mov

right click/save target as
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       03-13-2009, 10:31 AM Reply   
And I was always under the impression that the osmosis 5 was his signature move.. Even though most moves he does are ridiculous..
Old    Jason H (turbonine)      Join Date: Oct 2005       03-13-2009, 10:39 AM Reply   
X6 on the Blind Judge being Murray's.
Old    Nick in the TC (nick_in_ssp)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-13-2009, 10:42 AM Reply   
I think he also does the nicest backroll nose grabs. Huge and smooth.
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-13-2009, 11:45 AM Reply   
hey lyle thats a pretty good video yall ar better than me by far the best i have done was a Air Raley over my cousin his parents were freakin out after that though i did grind like a 30 foot floating tree one time you could get some serious air off the base where the roots start to go up.we were gettin like 6 feet till it snaped with my lion backer of a friend grinded it.

(Message edited by michaelb on March 13, 2009)
Old    Philip (n00b)      Join Date: Mar 2006       03-13-2009, 12:23 PM Reply   
Murray: Blind Judge or huge raley to tumble turn.

I love that trick, the board press that the OP was talking about, I've been trying to think through the mechanics of the trick and the only thing that makes sense would be to come into the turn on you toes and stand the board up on it's nose....

Anybody here know Shaun or could Shaun himself tell us how to do that?
Old    Randy Aubuchon (aubuchon03)      Join Date: May 2007       03-13-2009, 1:11 PM Reply   
Murray memorable moves

"Old school" favorites;
Nose-grab Backroll & double-up stalled Three (i think done in mayday or counterfeit)

"New School" Favorites;
Huge Blind Judge & Tail Slide

on a side note - signature move on ski's;
double up backroll on combo ski's - awesome!
Old    Ozark King (onthewatermo)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-13-2009, 1:38 PM Reply   
Don't forget the Blind TREE Judge on the teaser footage from the upcoming Team Hyperlite video.
Old    Bill Montanye (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       03-13-2009, 1:45 PM Reply   
i like his wrapped grabbed kgb 540s myself but he is the house of style so all of his stuff looks good IMO..
Old    Hayes (hayes)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-13-2009, 3:40 PM Reply   
Actually, Parks invented the 313. I will always remember Murray for the tweety-bird and the hoochie to blind.
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-13-2009, 4:10 PM Reply   
True...the wrapped KGB 5 with grab.
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-14-2009, 7:52 AM Reply   
alot of these tricks are truly sick but have you ever seen anybody come close to matching murral on the tail press.
Old    dennis engle (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       03-14-2009, 9:36 AM Reply   
Jason Callen does a preety sick tail press.
Old    Ewing (johnsvt)      Join Date: Dec 2006       03-14-2009, 9:53 AM Reply   
Half cab 180 or Blind judge
Old    Rocky Cathey (cmcathy1)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-14-2009, 12:03 PM Reply   
Jesus...He wanted advice on how to do a trick not open a discussion on what Murray's sig move is. Unfortunately, I have no advice to give, but I too would like to know how it is done. So, can anyone actually provide any tips? Another example, 1:25 into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhGkH6Mt_ZI
Old    david (dnp33)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-14-2009, 12:46 PM Reply   
quote michael bowles(the guy who started the thread) "lets keep this thread going so everybody show your favorite trick by your favorite rider,"

relax man discussion sometimes goes random places other then where it started.
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-14-2009, 1:02 PM Reply   
what i meant was don't just think this is about shaun murray's signature move cause i just wanted to know how to do this trick i was hoping i got lucky i could attract shaun murray and he could school us all on the instructional of this particular trick.but i do enjoy the list of trick the opions and the links.
Old    David Miller (otown_dave)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-14-2009, 1:32 PM Reply   
I just sent Shaun a email asking if he'll pop in and answer for you..
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-14-2009, 2:05 PM Reply   
thanks David, if you ever got a tricky question just pm me, we got a wakeboard think tank goin at bay springs.

(Message edited by michaelb on March 14, 2009)
Old    shaun belmont murray (shaun_murray)      Join Date: Sep 2005       03-14-2009, 6:35 PM Reply   
Ha! Ya'll are funny. Good stuff. First off, very humbled to see so many positive things from you guys, just having fun while trying to push my riding through the years.
So where to start?
The tail press, or whatever you want to call it. Flying through the corner of the lake on the tail of the board.
Getting speed to get the board out from under you is key.
So cut out, in the whip is easiest, and get all of your weight on the tail of the board. People try to lift the board and that doesn't do anything but get it into a weak wheelie and then it plops back down.
So get all your weight on your back foot to where you are almost sitting on the tail. Once you are there, quickly push out your back foot toward the boat, almost like you are trying to spray the boat with the tail of the board.
So technically speaking. You want to get your center of gravity way behind the board and then push the board out in front of you. That is why the speed of the whip really helps.
3:13, is the actual tricks name. Parks did it first, I did it the next day, both on my lake and we named it together. Ahhh, cute. Long story, another thread.
Tumble turn, worm turn, back spin, fall down and get back up move. Whatever you want to call that.
That does help to have a barefoot background, but make sure you have a lot of speed and like Nick said, get your upper back on the water and make sure your board is off when your back goes down. If both are on the water at the same time, you stop pretty quickly.
Hope that helps.
Shaun
Old    Bill Sloan (bill_sloan)      Join Date: Nov 2007       03-14-2009, 6:41 PM Reply   
I thought your signature move was left down left left right
Old    shaun belmont murray (shaun_murray)      Join Date: Sep 2005       03-14-2009, 6:46 PM Reply   
it's actually in the pause menu. up down 10 times, left right 10 times. that unlocks EVERYTHING!
Old    David Miller (otown_dave)      Join Date: Dec 2007       03-14-2009, 7:27 PM Reply   
I hear that the trick works better on the newer Murray board(showing the love)
Old    michael bowles (michaelb)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-15-2009, 6:33 AM Reply   
Thanks shaun, I have really been wanting to try this trick but couldn't figure out the macanics of it.thank you,it has helped a lot in my understanding of the tricks in question.
Old    Alex Klimowsow (liquid_force24)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-16-2009, 2:58 AM Reply   
sick... try the nose press in this by Bernhard Hinterberger

http://boardforce.net/article.asp?lang=&article=1412&type=11
Old    GH (rascal23)      Join Date: Apr 2005       03-17-2009, 2:34 PM Reply   
Why is the trick named 3:13? Is it after a bible verse?
Old    Nick Yochman (lakemiltonwake08)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-17-2009, 7:16 PM Reply   
I believe it was the time the trick was landed, or something of that nature.
Old    Mike K (mike2001)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-17-2009, 7:35 PM Reply   
"People try to lift the board and that doesn't do anything but get it into a weak wheelie and then it plops back down."

That's how I tried every time and that's exactly what happened. Thanks for clearing it up.
Old    Austin B (splatman)      Join Date: Jul 2008       03-19-2009, 9:47 AM Reply   
Shaun, you're rad. What other pro comes on an internet wakeboard forum to explain tricks?!?
Awesome.

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