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Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-16-2008, 1:37 PM Reply   
It's not mine, but I get to take it for a spin tonight after work

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Old    Nick Kondylas (homedawg678)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-16-2008, 1:54 PM Reply   
those facts are cool
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-16-2008, 2:03 PM Reply   
Then when you are done, can you please fedex it to me tomorrow so I can ride it this weekend? :-) j/k

That looks sic... But again, look at my boat in my profile. :-) Kind of matches it.
Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-16-2008, 2:19 PM Reply   
that board looks sick and the facts are a pretty cool touch
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       09-16-2008, 2:29 PM Reply   
Nice! let us know how it rides.
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-16-2008, 3:02 PM Reply   
Forgot to post a Pic of the beveled edge!

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Old    Keith (tversetti)      Join Date: Jan 2008       09-16-2008, 3:20 PM Reply   
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Old    Keith (tversetti)      Join Date: Jan 2008       09-16-2008, 3:21 PM Reply   
Nintzel or Jakober know what the "price" is going to be on the street?

I am talking about websites, not board shops.
Old    Tyler Hildebrand (ty540)      Join Date: Nov 2001       09-16-2008, 5:55 PM Reply   
I am very excited to ride this shape.
Old    Adam Balon (adam_balon)      Join Date: Jul 2003       09-16-2008, 7:20 PM Reply   
KEITH WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PRICE ON THE STREET? WHY WOULD BOARDSHOPS AND THE WEB BE DIFFERENT???
Old    Keith (tversetti)      Join Date: Jan 2008       09-16-2008, 8:04 PM Reply   
I meant more that there are not many boardshops around my area (chicago)
Old    Stephen Higgins (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       09-16-2008, 8:13 PM Reply   
That board looks nice. I like the beveled edge and the graphics look pretty sweet too.
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-16-2008, 8:15 PM Reply   
I have to ask and sorry for my ignorance.

What is that beveled edge suppose to do?

J, it's night time and you have had enough time with that board? We want answers and feedback now :-)
Old    Nick McDonald (lsukuntryboy)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-16-2008, 8:40 PM Reply   
when will this board be available to order?
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-16-2008, 9:03 PM Reply   
Sick, Sick, Sick...Thats what I have to say about the Decade. It's really hard to describe it, all I keep coming up with is SMOOTH. The board is just so right, speed, pop, landings, all the things everyone says is so great about every other board is all I can say about this board. I can tell you how great it is, but thats just me telling why I like it. If you are looking for a new board, then check it out. I think many of you will really like it.

Keith,
Not sure on the price, but I will find out.

Tyler,
You like the Coda, I think you will like the Decade.

David,
The beveled edge makes the board more forgiving and reduces the chances of catching an edge, it also makes the board more durable on sliders.

Nick,
It is in production now, but I would think the bulk of them are destined for the southern hemisphere, then the states, but I might be wrong.
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       09-16-2008, 9:07 PM Reply   
A beveled edge also makes that section of the board ride higher in the water. Basically a thicker edged center and thinner tip/tail makes the board ride with a more nose up attitude. I'd argue it's more for that reason than catching an edge.
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-16-2008, 9:16 PM Reply   
Thanks Big, whatever it does, it does it right
Old    Jay (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-17-2008, 5:03 AM Reply   
i can't wait!
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-17-2008, 7:04 AM Reply   
Thanks. Have a few more questions since it's hard to even demo any O'Brien board here in Sacramento, CA.

1) How was the pop compared to the Coda? Was it easier/predictable to pop?

2) When edging, which board responded quicker? Code or Decade?

3) How long are the molded fins and what size center fin is the Decade using?

4) Will this board be O'Briens Pro board or Advanced board? If it's taking over the Natural, it might be the Pro level board.

5)Is it a three stage? What is the rocker size?

Sorry for all the questions and if they have already been asked. I am sure there might be a few others that might want to know.
Old    Tyler Hildebrand (ty540)      Join Date: Nov 2001       09-17-2008, 7:29 AM Reply   
I like my Coda 141 a lot, but it's a bit small. I really like my Natural 144, but it tracks just a bit harder than I prefer. I really like the Valhalla 143, but it's not quite as responsive as I would like.

I'm hoping that this will be a perfect middle ground:-).
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-17-2008, 7:55 AM Reply   
David,

1) I think the Decade popped more and was more consistent then the Coda. I think the increased width throughout the board really helps it have a consistent pop.

2) When you say "responded quicker" it depends what you mean. I think the Coda rolls on edge quicker because it is narrower, but once on edge and cutting to the wake they are both very fast, with low drag. I think I would have to ride each board back to back to figure out which one is quicker, and even then I think it would be hard to tell. I think O'Brien makes the quickest 3 stage boards on the market.

3) The molded in fins are about 10.5 long & 0.7 deep. The center fin is a 0.7" Spine, but I rode it without, and I thought it was perfect.

4) This is Daniel Watkins new Pro model(10 years with O'Brien). The Natural will move down the line as an advanced board.

5) The board is 3 stage. Here are the specs:

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Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-17-2008, 7:57 AM Reply   
Tyler,

The Decade 144 just might be the perfect board for you
Old    Johan BumboClat (hyule)      Join Date: Nov 2006       09-17-2008, 8:09 AM Reply   
wow! check that variable center edge in the last pic! nice for butters!
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       09-17-2008, 9:03 AM Reply   
I have a DECADE COMING MY EVENTUALLY I CANNOT WAIT!
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       09-17-2008, 9:34 AM Reply   
nice review JJ. Maybe everyone can get off of obrien's nads when it comes to base features. They're obviosly on to something with fast 3 stage boards.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       09-17-2008, 9:40 AM Reply   
Nacho,

I agree it blows me away how many people think these are just gimics. Far from it! They work, the Delta Base makes the 3 Stage boards Crazy fast. I think the whole industry is moving away from Gimics, thank god!
Old    Justin (salsajs3030)      Join Date: Aug 2008       09-17-2008, 9:55 AM Reply   
Dude -that is so cool you rode that board...as of right now they are only hand made and there are only 4 of them in exsistance!
Last night I got my hands on one of the new skates -the new line is SICK and unlike anything on the market right now!! O'Brien is really stepping up!
Old    Adam (blindmnkee3)      Join Date: Aug 2001       09-17-2008, 11:10 AM Reply   
I rode with JJ last night and he was pretty psyched on the board. So much so that he got me on it too. I'm a good 250# and my board is an 03 Parks 143. This decade was 139. In the end I will say that I'm definately interested in the 144. It was really hard to describe. It felt locked down but I could break loose with no effort when I wanted to. It was super smooth all around, going into turns and on landings (even for my big butt). It was definately faster than my tank of a board. The pop was a little hard to get used to coming from the Parks. The decade has a nice 3-stage that isn't nearly as abrupt as the Parks. More mellow but still a lot of pop when you hit it correctly. JJ hit it on the head, Smooth. Definately interested in seeing the bigger board.

Thanks again for coming out Jason, that was treat and definately a good time. Your welcome to come out anytime
Old    dave Noti_dad (noti_dad)      Join Date: Jul 2003       09-17-2008, 12:02 PM Reply   
Damn! Looks like I need to get a new board. Really like the graphics. J, ya think I'll like it better than the Cartel/Coda?
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-17-2008, 12:36 PM Reply   
Adam,

Thanks for having me out, it was great!

I posted the pics of last nights butter here:

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/1/625440.html?1221625389

It was nice meeting you and your family,
jjakober
Old    Ty (brass_monkey)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-17-2008, 2:51 PM Reply   
Jakober,

I just rode my new Decade with the Watkins closed toe binders last night. It was unreal! The stance options threw me for a bit of a loop to begin with, but once I put them all the way out, it was sweet. There is Zero toe and heel lift, and my toes didn't get smashed at all.

The beveled edge is very forgiving when your are buttering around on the wake, but yet quick enough to respond coming onto edge that I didn't feel it lagged at all.

Did you ride it with the fins or without? I rode it finless, and it felt about as loose as the vallhalla when rode finless.

Overall, Chris did an amazing job on this shape and I am super stoked to be shredding it this fall.
Old    jordan ballard (slaysher)      Join Date: Jun 2006       09-17-2008, 3:11 PM Reply   
glad you dig it ty :-) ur the man and good to finally hang with ya at expo. i had a F'n blast

and woot woot for the DECADE this year, definately one fun ride. .
Old    Ty (brass_monkey)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-17-2008, 3:35 PM Reply   
Jordan.....your graphic made me spin faster and go bigger. Plus I am glad that it is orange, cuz at the end of the day, SAFTEY FIRST! Had a blast last weekend man, it was super fun finally getting together with you. Tell all the guys in the office, Pete, Adam, etc. that I'm glad they all made it back safe.
Old    Sam Ingram (wakeboardsam)      Join Date: Jun 2008       09-17-2008, 7:30 PM Reply   
who flunked spelling class???

I don't think Caffeine is spelled caffine... maybe they are talking about something else...
Old    Shawn Hammond (eargasm)      Join Date: May 2007       09-17-2008, 7:40 PM Reply   
Sweet, thanks for the review J. Sounds like its gonna be a great ride. Love my Coda 141 though. It would be tough going up to that 144 might have to try the 139.
Old    Josh B (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-17-2008, 7:56 PM Reply   
Can't say I love the orange but I'm definitely excited to give this board a whirl!!!!!!!!!
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-17-2008, 9:06 PM Reply   
Ty,
No fins!

TBAS,
I think you really will like the Decade coming from the Coda. Hopefully we will get together and you can check it out.

Shawn,
I have been riding the Coda 141 for the last couple of months and as far as the size difference between it and the Decade 139, I really didn't notice any difference. We're only taking about 2cm overall.

I have ridden the Natural for 3 years and the Coda for a couple of months, and I feel the Decade is a perfect blend between the 2 boards.

I took it for a spin again tonight, it's very cool

(Message edited by jjakober on September 17, 2008)
Old     Andy (cookie)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-18-2008, 5:11 AM Reply   
J Jakober, how do you think of the Decade compared to the Natural regarding the weight?
I read someplace that Decade had the impact-base which normally would make the board a bit heavier. Also, how are the new closed boots in terms of weight?
Old    kyle (lfxstar)      Join Date: Jul 2001       09-18-2008, 6:27 AM Reply   
Nice Witness!!
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-18-2008, 7:03 AM Reply   
Andy,
I didn't notice any difference in the weight of the Decade compared to the Natural. The Decade will be available with and without the impact-base. The board I rode did not have it. I have ridden O'Brien boards with the impact-base in the past and it adds a little weight, but not anything I noticed when riding. I know they have refined the impact-base and it is thinner and lighter then the one they used in the past.

As far as the boots go, they are very light. I don't have any numbers for you, but for something with so much material, it's amazing how light they are.
Old    Shawn Hammond (eargasm)      Join Date: May 2007       09-18-2008, 10:12 AM Reply   
J- I just made some calls back east so Im hoping I'll have one of these to try out soon! Im gonna try the 139 fo sho. Should work out with my knee rehab, with the timing and all.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       09-18-2008, 10:41 AM Reply   
According to my sources, D. Watkins says that this is the board he has been waiting for his whole life. He more proud of the this board than any of his other pro models. "it's prefect," DW says.

As for myself I never thought I would get away from the player to a different design but this board is the shiat!
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       09-18-2008, 8:42 PM Reply   
what are all the facts on the board?
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-18-2008, 9:16 PM Reply   
The board specs are up above a bit^^^^^

Let me know what else would you like to know?
Old    Nick McDonald (lsukuntryboy)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-18-2008, 9:56 PM Reply   
Just got the 09 price list and catalog today. I am really pleased with a 09 boards that obrien has. Including the new surfboard. And finally some decent looking vest and a ncga vest. way to step it way up obrien.
Old    Keith (tversetti)      Join Date: Jan 2008       09-18-2008, 10:24 PM Reply   
price list.....msrp at least?
Old    Sean Fleming (fleming)      Join Date: Aug 2008       09-19-2008, 5:15 AM Reply   
The board looks amazing. I'm riding the Valhalla and absolutely love it, but all this talk about the Decade has me wondering if I should make a switch.

In terms of spelling, they should really spell check those facts, it has "coconut" on there as "co****".
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       09-19-2008, 6:27 AM Reply   
Good Catch Sean I noticed that too-
Old    Jay (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-19-2008, 7:27 AM Reply   
coc.nut
Old    Jay (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-19-2008, 7:32 AM Reply   
sorry i'm feeling a little immature today...no work!
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       09-19-2008, 7:34 AM Reply   
YOUR A PUNK! GET TO WORK JAY! who the Hell I am supposed to Geek out on wakeboarding with!?!?!?
Old    Nick McDonald (lsukuntryboy)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-19-2008, 2:36 PM Reply   
I believe that 620 was the MSRP on the decade. dont hold me to that cause i dont have it in front of me. when i get home ill will verify that price.
Old    Sam Ingram (wakeboardsam)      Join Date: Jun 2008       09-19-2008, 3:13 PM Reply   
$620 WTF?
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-19-2008, 3:30 PM Reply   
$620.00 I don't think so. O'Brien has never had an MSRP that high. The Naturals MSRP last year was $480.00 so I would guess the Decade will be somewhere around there.
Old    Nick McDonald (lsukuntryboy)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-19-2008, 4:26 PM Reply   
im pretty sure. unless i was lookin at the hyperlite. my list (which i know for sure) was not a lot less than the natural. like i said though. dont hold me to that and i soon as i get home here in a hour or so i will tell you for sure.
Old    Nick McDonald (lsukuntryboy)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-19-2008, 4:28 PM Reply   
im pretty sure. unless i was lookin at the hyperlite. my list (which i know for sure) was not a lot less than the natural. like i said though. dont hold me to that and i soon as i get home here in a hour or so i will tell you for sure.
Old    Nick McDonald (lsukuntryboy)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-19-2008, 7:05 PM Reply   
ok. Im lookin at the price sheet now. A Decade blank w/o impact base is 600 even. w/ impact base is 660. add decade bindings. 840 across the board.

Keep in mind that these are MSRP prices. As i am looking through the price book. I am finding what must be errors. so if this price is a error, i will let yall know.
Old    Luke Johnson (luke_j)      Join Date: Jul 2008       09-19-2008, 7:45 PM Reply   
honestly looks like the most unexciting new shape of 09
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-19-2008, 9:46 PM Reply   
Luke,
Don't judge a book by it's cover...take it for a spin and then tell us what you think!
Old    Ryan Shimabukuro (ryan_shima1)      Join Date: Sep 2002       09-19-2008, 10:49 PM Reply   
I agree with Jakober. A board doesn't have to have a new, exciting shape to be an incredible ride. I can't wait to try it out!
Old    Goride (goride)      Join Date: Mar 2007       09-19-2008, 11:50 PM Reply   
Did the decade feel like it had more pop than the natural?

I love how easy it is to go into the flats with my natural but get much more pop out of my murray.

I think this decade will be the perfect blend.
Old    J Jakober (jjakober)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-21-2008, 1:09 PM Reply   
goride,

I can't prove it, but it sure felt like it had more pop.

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