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Old    GWR (south30)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-31-2003, 5:06 PM Reply   
On our '02 SAN every time we fill up at the pump, the pump does not turn off in time . It shoots a lot of gas all over the place.(boat, ground, and me if i stand right there).. the only thing we can to, to try to stop this is when we think its getting close to full we pump it real slow. then it only spills a little. ANY TRIXS TO STOP THIS???

THX
Old    Face Planter (mastercraft1995)      Join Date: Nov 2002       03-31-2003, 5:13 PM Reply   
Listen for the gurgul. Also notice where the gas gauge is while sitting on the trailer. Then pay attention to to how much you put in the tank the next time you fill up. 1/4 of a tank is 22 gallons. When I get to 20 I start slowing down and listen. You can also figure it out by watching how many hours you put on the boat verse the gallons. For me its about 4.5 gallons per hour.
Old    mmascari            03-31-2003, 5:33 PM Reply   
I have the same problem with my Supreme. The way around it for me was to pump it slowly. If you don't want to stand there and hold the handle manually, most of the handles allow you to control the speed of the flow rate of the gas at 3 different intervals. It takes longer to fill but worth it for me. Nothing is worse than having to clean up gas all over the boat.
Old     (john)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-31-2003, 6:25 PM Reply   
Install a fuel/air separator in the tank's vent line. Racor LG50 fuel/air separator is about $50 at Overton's and others.
It allows the air to escape but not the fuel.
Old    Knee Brace Boy (wstr01)      Join Date: Feb 2001       03-31-2003, 6:30 PM Reply   
I pull the rear seats in my Wakesetter and watch the level of the fuel. Of course with gas being so damn expensive these days, I don't think I'll have to worry about topping her off anymore.
Old    GWR (south30)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-31-2003, 9:04 PM Reply   
Hey John,
thats a great idea but the gas is getting out from around the pump, not the vent.... Although that would have fixed the problem with my supra, gas would always come out the vent...

thx
Old    chris_hargis            03-31-2003, 9:35 PM Reply   
I just open the hatch over my fuel tank and watch it as I fill. When it gets full, I go ahead and round to a nice figure and stop. I used to spill it all the time until I started doing this. Of course, that may be harder to do with an inboard, I don't know.
Old    Shawn K. (zipe)      Join Date: Mar 2002       03-31-2003, 11:29 PM Reply   
GWR,

I have a '99 with the same problem. I just put it on the lowest flow latch when I think I am getting close, step back, and stand by with my bottle of 50/50 vinegar/water and an old boat towel. The watching the gas gauge would be a great idea if they made a fuel gauge for a boat that ACTUALLY WORKED!
Old    utah rider (davidbouvier)      Join Date: Aug 2002       04-01-2003, 8:27 AM Reply   
On my 02 san, I put in a few gallons at a time. then stop and pull the nozzle out. Let the gas settle a few seconds, like ten. then pump some more. Like face plant said, have an idea about how much you ned to put in. when you here it start to gurgle, you know its just about full. the gas comes out the fill because the fuel is going in faster than the vent can get the extra air out. this works for me. I don't spill a drop anymorewe don't want to waste any.
Old    JCrave (s4inor)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-01-2003, 9:44 AM Reply   
The fix John suggested will solve your problem. The Racor LG50 does two things. First, it prevents fuel from escaping out the overflow line. The second thing is does is increase the back pressure in the fuel tank, which is how auto pumps sense when to shut off. Becuase of the check valve in the LG50, the easiest escape path for fumes is out the filler nozzle. As the tank gets full, the pressure gradient gets higher which turns off the auto pump.

Before installing the LG50 on my boat I always had to play with the pump, turning it upside down and stuffing towels down the fill nozzle. Nothing ever worked and even though I always filled at the slowest level, fuel still ended up getting everywhere. Now I can fill at full throttle just like my car, and when the pump shuts off the tank is completely full.

Check out this article for more info on the install and benefits.
Old    jmccallum            04-01-2003, 10:02 AM Reply   
I bought one of these from Westmarine. Do they work?




"New federal laws are prompting filling station attendants and harbormasters to call the Coast Guard on boat owners who pollute. Yet even conscientious boaters sometimes splash fuel out their vent line. Attwood's vent-line surge protector can help you avoid federal fines of up to $5,000 for small fuel spills. With automatic nozzles it shuts off the fuel flow when your tank is full, and with non-automatic nozzles it gurgles when it's time to stop pumping. Solid polypropylene construction and simple surge-ball design. Fits 5/8'' ventilation hose. Clamps included."
Old    JCrave (s4inor)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-01-2003, 10:51 AM Reply   
No, that West Marine part does not work as well as the Racor. I know the LG50 is $30 more than the West Marine part listed above, but the money is worth it.
Old    Razzman (razz)      Join Date: May 2002       04-01-2003, 11:50 AM Reply   
GWR,
I have an 02 SAN which has the same problem. Here is the way I solved it.

1. I take out the middle rear seat cushion and the cooler underneath it.
2. I put a flashlight on the gas tank so I can easily see the level in the tank.
3. I fill the gas tank at full speed.
4. I stop filling when the gas level gets to a mark I painted on the gas tank. I painted the mark on the tank just below the level where gas would start to overflow. I probably end up a gallon or two short of a full tank but it's worth not spilling and taking forever to fill up.

Hope this helps!

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