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Old    turbocivic5 (sscott0203)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-14-2008, 1:11 PM Reply   
Messed with it for an hour on the lake and couldnt get it to where i was happy with it.Set up is:
Kenwood HU.. very basic trebel,bass,and fader
5 Band EQ
Kicker 300.4 running 6 polk db651
Kicker 450.2 running 2 Wetsound Pro 80's

I have never heard tower speakers before so i have no clue what my wetsounds are suspose to sound like. If you stand on the swim platform it just seems like there is so much treble to them. Maybe thats how they are suspose to be so the rider can hear them. So do i tune the wetsounds by standing 100 ft back. I really lost here and have no clue where to start turning this whole setup
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       05-14-2008, 1:55 PM Reply   
Just a guess here treble sound does not carry as fair due to it being a HIGH freq. So they may be made to be what I would call brighter so that the rider at 60-80 ft can hear them. Not sure if your amp that runs the towers has an eq or a crossover. Most amps have some sort of cross over which you would be able to use to cut some of the highs out. I am sure someone else that knows more about tower speakers will chime in.
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       05-14-2008, 2:17 PM Reply   
No sub?

I set everything independently ( sub, tower, interior) then combine and see how it sounds, I then do some final tweaking.

You need to set your gains properly first. Haev you done this?

What eq are you running? Does it control both your interior and tower or each independently? or just one?

I typically start with my HU setting then work my way back. Mine are typically zeroed out or in the negatives ( treb/bass). I run the treble down on my wetsounds setup. Also IMO turn the highest frequency on yoru eq all the way down (for the wetsounds)
Old    Tim White (wetsounds1)      Join Date: Jan 2006       05-14-2008, 2:26 PM Reply   
Seth,

Here is a step by step I posted for one of the guys on Tige owners. He was using our EQ but should be the same for you as well.

1) Unplug all the RCA’s from your amps. Turn all the amp gains down.

2) Turn the radio up to find the maximum volume. Set the system with the head unit volume at 85% of max. This is the loudest the radio should ever go. Radios will create distortion the higher the volume is turned up. Which will create distortion on the output signal before reaching the amps. So find a safe easy to remember volume. If the head unit is 35. Max should be 30. If the head unit is 40. Maximum should be 30 to 35 and so on.

3) Once you have found the maximum volume set point. Turn the radio back down. Use a test CD that you are familiar with for tuning. Something that has highs and lows and vocals.

4) Make sure the settings on the radio are flat. You should not tune a system with the treble or bass up.

5) On the top of the WS 420. Set the gains at the mid level. Make sure to adjust both the main gain and the aux gain. Set them both to this mid level. This is the level where most systems will be. The WS 420 has the ability to provide more voltage if there are long rca runs but most boats will be in the middle as this is a safe setting.

6) Make sure all the eq adjustments are flat. Right in the middle. Plug in all the rcas from the eq to the amps.

7) Plug in just the RCA’s for the in boat speakers amp. Set the high pass crossover at around 80HZ to 100HZ.

8) Turn the radio up to the max safe level found in step 2. Turn the eq up to about ¾ of max volume.

9) Slowly turn the gain up until you hear the speakers distort. Slowly back off the gain from that point a small amount until you hear the speakers play as loud as they can with no distortion.

10) Unplug the RCA’s from that amp and plug the RCA’s into the amp running the tower speakers. Set the high pass crossover on the amp for the tower speakers at 80HZ to 100HZ.

11) Slowly turn the gain up until you hear the speakers distort. Slowly back off the gain from that point a small amount until you hear the speakers play as loud as they can with no distortion.

12) Unplug the RCA’s from that amp and plug the RCA’s into the amp running the subwoofer. Set the low pass crossover on the amp for the subwoofer at 80HZ. On the WS 420. Turn the bass level to max. The ring is a frequency adjustment. All the way down to the left is 30 HZ. You will want to put this around 60 to 80HZ. So about ¼ of the way up.

13) Slowly turn the gain up until you hear the speakers distort. Slowly back off the gain from that point a small amount until you hear the speakers play as loud as they can with no distortion.

14) Turn the radio back down and plug in all RCA’s and do a final check with everything playing. You should now have the gains set at “unity” Meaning they are all at the same level and you are matched across the board.

15) Note that you can adjust the high pass and low pass filters to tailor the sound to each boat. As you can set the high pass higher to get more volume but at the expense of losing some low end mid bass.

16) You can then fine tune the sound on the eq as well. Using the knobs and rings. Most systems will not need much in terms of boost.

17) You can then leave the eq volume set and use the radio as the main volume. And then turn the in boats down with the towers up or vice versa depending on you goals.

Tim
Wet Sounds
Old    turbocivic5 (sscott0203)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-14-2008, 3:17 PM Reply   
Wow thank you very much Tim. I will try that and see how it goes from there.
Old    Clubmyke (clubmyke)      Join Date: Aug 2004       05-14-2008, 9:06 PM Reply   
seth,

the excessive treble you are hearing is common to coaxial hlcd's (the pro 80's are a bit bright imo).

the throat in the horn is compromised compared to a separate hlcd driver which can direct the high frequencies out toward the rider vs inside the boat ( your passengers that sit in the same listening plane or behind might want to use ear plugs)

hope that helps.

mike

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