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Old     (kenteck)      Join Date: Jan 2005       03-17-2008, 11:43 AM Reply   
Well it seems that gas prices are going up, up and up, by this summer who knows where they will be at, I am just as pissed as the next guy, I know this will put somewhat of a damper on my summer, I donít think I will be riding as much as the last years.
So how will this affect you as a boat owner this summer, will you go postal at the gas station? Or will you suck it up and make the extra people pay 40.00 for a day of riding?
Old     (peachman)      Join Date: May 2004       03-17-2008, 12:00 PM Reply   
I'll be doing a lot of FLOATING this year!

Old     (absoluteboarder)      Join Date: Aug 2002       03-17-2008, 12:09 PM Reply   
.....with prices skyrocketing I don't think anyone should expect a free ride........the bright side is there may be more butter!!
Old     (w00taz)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-17-2008, 12:39 PM Reply   
how does climate affect the price of gas? anyone have any ideas? how is this inflation of prices justifiable? any insight would be lovely.
Old     (malibu_monkey)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-17-2008, 12:56 PM Reply   
There is no justice!!!
Old     (jayc)      Join Date: Sep 2002       03-17-2008, 12:58 PM Reply   
I think the inflation of prices is fully justified. Its just supply and demand.

Currently over $10 a gallon here in the UK and it won't limit my riding that much I'll just try and be a bit lighter on the throttle where ever possible
Old     (lknboarder)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-17-2008, 1:15 PM Reply   
for me as long as it stays under $5 a gallon it shouldn't hurt my riding time
Old     (eric_ms)      Join Date: Apr 2007       03-17-2008, 1:44 PM Reply   

Climate has a lot to do with the price of gas. Every summer the price of gas goes up. Why? Either the supply of gas grows which makes sense b/c more people are traveling and doing activities that require fuel and/ or the fuel companies no that this will happen and know that they can raise the price of fuel and still have a demand. Either way the price of fuel does increase during the summer months.
Old     (kenteck)      Join Date: Jan 2005       03-17-2008, 1:57 PM Reply m
Old     (w00taz)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-17-2008, 1:58 PM Reply   
guess its time to sell all my stocks (at a loss right now) and buy more in fuel companies! LOL.
Old     (jpuckett)      Join Date: Apr 2005       03-17-2008, 2:12 PM Reply   
It's time to open the Alaska pipeline and tell the Saudies to drown in it. If it's a supply and demand issue then why are the oil companies reporting record profits?
Old     (joe_crawley)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-17-2008, 3:24 PM Reply   
Gas is still free in the US, enjoy it, it won't last long!!!
Old     (tomcat22)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-17-2008, 3:55 PM Reply   
We are at a 15 year high in gas supplies according to the news. Its not supply and demand its the oil companies, they know we have to have it and want to make record profits from it. Gas could be 2.00 a gallon and they still would make outstanding profits. Its all GREED!!!
Old     (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       03-17-2008, 4:17 PM Reply   
Will not effect my riding amount. Maybe this will reduce the amount of riders/increase butta

You might want to look at what comprises the cost of your gasoline and tell your and federal legislators to give you your money back.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       03-17-2008, 4:27 PM Reply   
Will be intereting to see if the big oil companies report record profits again
Old     (face_smash)      Join Date: Aug 2004       03-17-2008, 4:48 PM Reply   
Here in France the Gas prices are following suit and are always heading up!! and Diesel is even higher!!! Just suck it up!! Its not going to affect my time on the water!! just need a little more saving during the winter and everybody (who didnt pay 60,000 euros for the boat) might have to throw a little extra in!!!
Old     (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       03-17-2008, 5:18 PM Reply   
Hmmmm. Record profits, not sure what this has to do with anything, along with the greed comment.

Does anyone hear know what the approximate profit margin was from the Exxon? Not exactly what I consider outrageous, in fact sort of low.

How about the lack of any refining capacity? You know the state govt's of Floriday and CA not allowing offshore drilling.

The price of oil is a very complex equation, but boils down the growing demand of India, China, and of course the US demand. Not just the alleged "greed" of "big oil"
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-17-2008, 5:26 PM Reply   
China is gobbling up as much oil as they can get ahold of, they're going through an industrial revolution right now. As shane says it's not necessarily the demand of the U.S. it's other countries.
Old    wiz            03-17-2008, 6:05 PM Reply   
it's time to drill in anwar, & offshore. it's ridiculous that here we are in 2008 and we still haven't done it. my neighbor's sister-in-law works for a major oil company in houston. they have an employee gas pump & it's free for everyone! it makes me want to move to texas.......
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-17-2008, 6:14 PM Reply   
Chuck someone is feeding you some of that B.S. Maybe it's free if they are driving company cars, but that would be it.
Old     (laraujo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       03-17-2008, 9:11 PM Reply   
It is not so much about the supply vs demand but more about the dollar. Tax cuts for the rich, corporate welfare have all ballooned the US deficit. The loss in value of the dollar is making investors seek shelter in commodities like oil, gold etc... because investment in the dollar, US treasuries, are undesirable by foreign and domestic investors in a deficit economy. Unless we return to balancing our budget and re establish full faith in credit in the US Govt/dollar, investors, futures speculators, etc will continue to drive up commodities like oil and gas. As for Anwar, The majority of Oil currently being produced in Alaska, ends up on tankers to Asia.
Old     (kolibri)      Join Date: Sep 2002       03-18-2008, 1:57 AM Reply   
Dear friends, over here the gas price is over 8$ a gallon... us gas price are still like in paradise. Why should the wakebuddys ride for free? We are used to share the full costs of the boat. Wish you all a nice summer.
Old     (whitlecj)      Join Date: Apr 2004       03-18-2008, 5:37 AM Reply   
Yeah the gas prices are a real bummer. Hopefully they will even out soon so we can all enjoy our summers.
Old     (curtisco24)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-18-2008, 5:45 AM Reply   
We have plenty of oil and gas. Simply, price driven by investors in stock market lining pockets. By the time we run out or come close, we will have alternative methods of fuel. We already do, but big oil has a lid on those.
Old     (ironcross25)      Join Date: Jul 2006       03-18-2008, 5:46 AM Reply   
I hate gas. Why dont we all by energizer bunnies and put them in the boat. If he can power a city heck he can power a boat.
Old     (ethan31)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-18-2008, 6:20 AM Reply   
Noone is doing anything to help matters, everyone just bitches about it. I see everyday a bunch of driving 10-15mph over the limit. Slow down to the limit and you will see all the savings.

Until we cut back on our use the oil company's are going to keeping raising the prices. [end rant]
Old    killen1970            03-18-2008, 1:40 PM Reply   
Europe's gas prices are not apples to apples. A good portion of your gas price is tax for the myriad of social programs due to a more socialist form of government unlike the US's capitalist system in which the tax is a small part of our per gallon cost. Social programs are not free someone has to pay and you do so at the pump as well as other places. Gas prices are ridiculous in our country because we have not built a refinery in 30 years due to a strong environmental lobby. Demand is high and our refinery's are at almost capacity.
Old     (peachman)      Join Date: May 2004       03-18-2008, 1:49 PM Reply   
Bingo... Mark K. nailed it...

Due to refinery capacities, it creates supply and demand. A couple years ago, my butcher was on his annual trip to AK. on a moose hunt. There was a high up at the same camp. One night around the camp fire with a few drinks under his belt, he asked the oil executive what was happening with gas prices. The oil exec said every time we try and use resources or build additional refineries, we get so much opposition from the environmentalists, that we never get to first base. For this reason, you will see prices move upward drastically, to the point at which we are able to access resources and build refineries.

Hang on, the prices are not going to change much and if they do, it will be upward.

Old     (phatboypimp)      Join Date: Apr 2005       03-18-2008, 4:11 PM Reply   
Have a shirt made like I did

My Boat Runs on Gas Not Thanks

People seem to pay a lot more when I meet them at the dock with that shirt
Old     (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       03-18-2008, 4:22 PM Reply   
Gas, Grass, or Ass, no one rides for free.
Old     (kawaik)      Join Date: Feb 2005       03-18-2008, 8:19 PM Reply   
i am going to preface/disclaim what i am about to do with the statement that i NEVER do this and i actually have a burning, passionate hate for chain emails but this one i actually opened and it intrigued me because the escalating prices will certainly take a toll on our lake time this year and i am all for doing something if there is anything i can do for it. after reading all of these posts i recognize this might not be the only or even the biggest problem that we are faced with but i think it is worth a shot. to save myself the typing i am going to paste a portion of this email that was sent to me. feel free to flame me or the instigators of the nonsense as i find the hostility of the people on this board to be quite humorous most of the time. here goes.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.
If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

bring it on.
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-18-2008, 8:37 PM Reply   
Hate to burst your bubble there jerbil but Exxon and Mobil are one company called ExxonMobil, they merged quite a while ago. The second largest oil company is BP. A little research goes a long way before posting something like this. While I agree with the intent of this chain e-mail it will never happen. You could never buy another gallon of gas from those two companies and it wouldn't hurt them. They sell gas to most of those other gas stations you freqeuent, and oil to the other oil companies that do not explore and produce. Where do you think the oil comes from, the big players. There aren't alot of oil compaines in the E&P sector (exploration and production), these guys bring the oil to market. These are just the american companies, we get alot of oil out of the country to and this little boycott won't affect that a bit either.

Go do some research and then post again.

(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on March 18, 2008)
Old     (radikal)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-18-2008, 9:29 PM Reply   
ill eat less but i will never reduce my riding !
Old     (deltaboy)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-18-2008, 9:44 PM Reply   
Personally I think we should get a little payback from the Mexican govmt for all the free health care and social BS we provide millions of their undocumented that come here. They sit on fat loads of oil and it sure would be nice to do a little bartering.
I was on the way home from work the other day and super was 3.99 and diesel 2 was 4.16 DAMN gotta suck to have a diesel right now.
Old     (deltaboy)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-18-2008, 9:49 PM Reply   
For any of you economists. At what point does the US start using our reserves? I would imagine possibly this summer since its the peek traveling season an so much of the econ. relies on tourism etc. Any thoughts?
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-18-2008, 10:53 PM Reply   
Amen Kevin.. If we got even a barrel of oil a day for each one of them illegal bastards they send over the border our gas prices would be less. We should just cut off any all aid we give to mexico and see what happens to the immigration problem, they'd police it themselves and we wouldn't have to worry about it.
I'll probably be doing more floating, and making sure I get gas money from people. I never would ask for it, but at $4 a gallon I won't be so shy about it.

(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on March 18, 2008)

(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on March 18, 2008)
Old     (w00taz)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-18-2008, 11:12 PM Reply   
Funny story about gas stations in Az we recently got valero stations. Well they bought out this rather nice independently owned gas station we used to frequent on the way to the lake. Like the week before it went through its transformation into chain-esque remodel they sold off all the old store's inventory before it shipped in all the valero crap. They had absolutely nothing worth anything in the entire store. It was horrible. No water, no energy drinks, no food worth touching, not a single beer. NOTHING! So from now on all of my crew calls valero the inconvenience store. Not only that but they boosted the price of gas by like 40 cents from one day to the next. From now on I fill the truck and boat by the costco by my house.


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