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Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       07-30-2007, 8:32 PM Reply   
I found a man who owns a 1989 ski nautique. I asked him if it had the 2001 hull, and he was clueless about what I was talking about. I assume that it does, but after doing a little research, I am not sure. It appears just from NADA.com that Nautique made multiple models, including a barefoot model. The boat does not have 2001 stickers or anything, in fact he commented that that boat has been painted, because the title says it is red, when in fact it is blue. The title does not list it as a '2001 model' but neither does NADA.

How would a person know which hull this has? I assume it would be a great fixer upper. I read another thread about the hull spray pockets, but is there anything else? Maybe a finder's fee might be in order if I point someone in the right direction to buy it?
Old    882001 (882001)      Join Date: Nov 2003       07-30-2007, 8:38 PM Reply   
barefoot has chines 2001 does not. 2001 is in the serial number on the back.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       07-31-2007, 5:58 AM Reply   
Barefoot Nautiques have a chines as mentioned and a steeper appearance.

If it is an 89 it is a "2001".

And regardless of whether or not is is a Ski Nautique or a Barefoot Nautique it is going to make for a good wakeboarding platform.
Old    Kevin (ctrider)      Join Date: Apr 2003       07-31-2007, 7:07 AM Reply   
If it has the serial numbers on the hull you should be able to email Correct Craft and they should be able to tell you which model it is and give you all the information on the boat when it was new.
Old    Leo Lasecki (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       07-31-2007, 7:14 AM Reply   
The barefoot had a 454, the 2001 didnt.
Old    Chris (committed)      Join Date: Jul 2005       07-31-2007, 7:52 AM Reply   
Tall-you jumping ship-changin teams? Say it's not true.......
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       07-31-2007, 9:13 AM Reply   
Thanks for the thoughts.

I do know it has the 240 hp engine, not the 454. I assume that for a guy who does not want to spend a lot, that engine is going to be a good start, as long as you don't weight the boat too heavily...

I am not jumping ship, but I saw the boat and thought it might make for an interesting winter project (as if I don't have enough to do), or hook up someone else.

The 2001 wouldn't hold enough people for me.
Old    B-money (greenmachine)      Join Date: May 2007       07-31-2007, 9:43 AM Reply   
It possibly may be a martinique. (Same hull as a barefoot with a PCM 351)
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       07-31-2007, 10:20 AM Reply   
PCM stands for Pleasure Craft, right? It does have the Pleasure Craft that is advertised at 240hp. Which block it actually has, I do not know. I have heard of PCM engines for years now, never took a second thought of what it stands for.
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       07-31-2007, 10:44 AM Reply   
two very different boats. Martinique is open bow 21' range. 2001 is 19' closed. Have you see the boat yet? snap a pic.
Old    Leo Lasecki (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       07-31-2007, 12:19 PM Reply   
PCM-Pleasure Craft Marine

The 240hp was the standard v8 on most of the pre-1990 boats. Suprisingly, that 240hp with the right prop can pull up a lot of ballast. There are a bunch of people with 2001s pulling 2k in ballast without any problems.
Old    dustin sahlmann (dnice)      Join Date: May 2006       07-31-2007, 1:23 PM Reply   
How in the heck do you keep from sinking a 2001 with that much weight?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       07-31-2007, 1:33 PM Reply   
someone should post the pic of the gray/black 2001 that was completely restored and has about 3k in ballast in it. Great picture. The PCM 351 is an awesome motor. I have had it in 2 boats and never had a problem other than the carburetor. I had 1500 in ballast and 5 guys in my 2001 with a 4 blade acme and it didn't even flinch.
Old    B-money (greenmachine)      Join Date: May 2007       07-31-2007, 1:47 PM Reply   
my bad...I mean't to say dominique not martinique.

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=721&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yr end=2008

(Message edited by greenmachine on July 31, 2007)
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-08-2007, 7:19 PM Reply   
Those 2001's are pretty rare around here. I have seen one in 7 years.

I finally got around to looking at the boat. I do not think it is the 2001 hull unless I misunderstood the information above. The hull does not have cutouts in the rear.

Overall the condition is reasonable for a boat that old. I did not take it for a ride.





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Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-08-2007, 7:23 PM Reply   
Pardon the cell phone pics. They never show color very well for some reason, maybe because the lens is always covered with lint.

The engine cover was trashed so the owner just removed it. The cover is black and was hot as can be. The floor has been newly recarpeted.

Here is the VIN:
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Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-08-2007, 7:26 PM Reply   
A couple more:
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It seems like a reasonable boat. The price is listed as $4500 in St. George, Utah.
Phone number is 435-652-0170

They are unaware that I was going to post anything on the internet about it, and I do not even know the seller. Just thought it was interesting.
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-08-2007, 7:33 PM Reply   
Some Dixie student should pick that up and have one Hell of a time in St. George!

I wish I would have had a boat in college.
Old    Leo Donoghue (technarider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       08-08-2007, 7:40 PM Reply   
wow i know thats not a 89 2001... different dash and the rear looks wrong...
Old    Brian Williams (delbert)      Join Date: Oct 2003       08-08-2007, 8:20 PM Reply   
I believe that is a ski supreme.
Old    Luciano Grimblat (luchog)      Join Date: Jun 2002       08-08-2007, 9:08 PM Reply   
post this info in correctcraftfan.com, they'll know what this boat is for sure
Old    B-money (greenmachine)      Join Date: May 2007       08-09-2007, 7:15 AM Reply   
Sorry, but that is not a Correct Craft SN.....
Old     (shredhead)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-09-2007, 9:00 AM Reply   
Yep, not at CC.
Old    Mike Rempel (mechmaster)      Join Date: May 2006       08-09-2007, 9:25 AM Reply   
That's a bit of an oddball.

From the first 3 digits of your HIN (TFZ), the manufacturer was Southern Fiberglass Inc., Houston, TX.

See: http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/mic_detail.aspx?id=TFZ

Boat in a 1989 model, manufactured in December 1988.
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-09-2007, 10:59 AM Reply   
I posted it on Correctcraftfan, and another was able to find the same information. Thanks for showing that site to me, very informative.

This will be an interesting phone discussion tonight, my guess is that he is unaware that the boat is not what he thinks it is.

I would think that since it is not a CC, the value is about half of a comparable CC. Any thoughts?

(Message edited by talltigeguy on August 09, 2007)
Old    Luciano Grimblat (luchog)      Join Date: Jun 2002       08-09-2007, 4:14 PM Reply   
My guess is that it's a CC mimmic.
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-10-2007, 9:16 AM Reply   
I spoke to the gentleman last night. He took out a loan for the purchase, so the title was not immediately available for him to look at. He bought it from a private party about a year ago. He seemed hurt by the revelation that the boat is not a ski Nautique. By the tone of his conversation, I am very convinced he was unaware of this.

So I guess this is a lesson to all to be careful when buying a used boat, it might not be what you think it is!
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-11-2007, 3:25 PM Reply   
The gentleman now sent me an email upset that I gave his hull ID and phone number on the internet. He was concerned about someone getting access to his personal information for identity fraud purposes.

Am I out of line for doing that?

For the record, I could not find him in the phone book, but his boat was advertised in the local want ads, which are also available online. I have never heard of anyone being able to access personal information from a hull serial number. Otherwise, you could just go to a parking lot and have a hayday.

I actually thought I might be doing him a favor, as that I was not aware that he had gotten scammed until after I posted the pictures. I assumed when I posted the pics that it was a correct craft with a hull different than the 2001 hull.
Old    Leo Donoghue (technarider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       08-11-2007, 3:57 PM Reply   
phone number was probly out of the line.. but the hull number is a way to track the boat not a person..

my .02cents
Old    Luciano Grimblat (luchog)      Join Date: Jun 2002       08-11-2007, 4:03 PM Reply   
You know how it is, shoot the messenger.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       08-11-2007, 4:10 PM Reply   
Was he wearing a tin foil helmet when he sent you that angry mail to keep the government's mid-reading x-rays from scanning his brain waves?

No you were not out of line.

Remind him it is the year 2007.

As for the boat - there aren't enough pics to make a judgement. Can we get a non-crap phonecam shot or one that shows the whole thing. It MAY be a Martinique. Dominiques were basically rebadged Barefoot Nautiques - and it does not appear that is what we're dealing with here.

(Message edited by juniorhawk on August 11, 2007)
Old    Tommy G (tommyg)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-11-2007, 8:25 PM Reply   
the only thing you did wrong was to start out this thread with "i met a man"...lol.

you were trying to help out the guy and turn some folks on to a deal which didn't work out. Who would've thought that the dude owned a boat that he didn't even know the manufacturer??? Not your fault.

BTW...that dashboard is hideous.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       08-11-2007, 9:00 PM Reply   
Revising my guess a little but. I just noticed that it has a closed bow. Thats not whaw I remember the few closed bow Martiniques that CC made looking like. And only Supreme and Centurion messed with that "french cut" look of the dash. It is not a Correct Craft. But it is a tournament inboard of some kind. Perhaps a decent one too.

My guess is that is it a Supreme. I don't know if they had a larger boat than the Ski Supreme (Sierra Supreme?).

Again - pics of the entire boat and not just a corner will answer these identity questions pretty quickly. There are 3 80's-early 90's era Supremes on my lake and they are very easy to identify.
Old    Tallredrider (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       08-11-2007, 10:18 PM Reply   
Again I apologize for the crappy cell phone pics. It is a Treo 700, you would think that...

I did have 2 more pics:
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If someone is interested...you do have his phone number.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       08-12-2007, 7:14 AM Reply   
Thanks for the additional pics.

Yup. Looks like a Ski Supreme.

If you are planning on buying a boat for wakeboarding purposes, there are better options out there. This would make an avid slalom skiier or barefooter quite happy though. It would take a lot of work and refactoring to turn this into a wakeboarding platform that you'd be happy with, long-term. Just my opinion.

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