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Old    Dan Gitlin (madtowndan)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-30-2007, 4:02 PM Reply   
Ok I am wondering a little detail about the progressive edge. I understand a progressive edge in the way it applies directly to the angle of your board in the water. The question I have is more of what the shape of the cut into the wake should be.

When I cut into the wake not only do I increase my edge but I also increase my angle towards the wake so that by the time I am at the wake I am almost perpendicular to the boats direction. (CUT B)

I was wondering how others out there cut and if you cut differently depending on the trick. Cutting my way seems to load the line ALOT and gives great pop but that isn't necessarily a good thing for all tricks; spins are very hard for me right now because of all the line tension.

I may have just answered my own question but Im still curious on others thoughts on this. I made a little picture to better convey my thoughts. The Blue is the wake and the red your path of the cut. I also am curious as to what angle you guys hit the wake at and if it changes for various tricks.
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Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-30-2007, 4:09 PM Reply   
I guess I do both...

Heelside (A)
Toeside (B)
Old    J2 (zuka666)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-30-2007, 4:09 PM Reply   
Dan you are on point. It's all about loading the line all the time! With different edging techniques comes different tricks though. Not only that, think about handle position and board control.
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-30-2007, 4:14 PM Reply   
my coach, tells me to stay away from the diagram "b" type of approach for heelside

"A" is more the way to go

toeside...if I understand him correctly, is more of the "b" diagram but keeping the peripheral vision in line with more of diagram "A"

my problems stem from to much pull...like a slalom skier

I've found that when I can do things his way, I get greater pop with much less energy spent
Old    Paul Bernier (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-30-2007, 4:53 PM Reply   
Tantrum and 'trip flips' use (A) because you end up switching your edge anyways so you wanna start off with a really hard cut to gain speed. Also with spins because you want the speed and pop but you don't want line tension that will pull you off your axis and not allow you to get the handle pass.

All other tricks, like rolls, need the progressive edge in order to have line tension to force the flip.

After you get the hang of it you start to use a combo of both to get the most air possible.

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