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Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-28-2007, 7:08 AM Reply   
hey can any one please tell me the correct term for a 313 is it
three one three,
three thirteen,
thirty one three
or is it all of the above?

Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-28-2007, 8:39 AM Reply   
it has been called the three one three and the three thirteen. and it is probably the sickest raley based move.
Old    Roddyrod (wakeslife)      Join Date: Jul 2005       04-28-2007, 8:55 AM Reply   
Thats a raley to fs 3?
Old    Stephen Higgins (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       04-28-2007, 9:05 AM Reply   
I have heard it three thirteen, there is nothing like Josh Sanders taking one of those out into the flats, I think that I have seen Murray throw some nice 313's also.
Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-28-2007, 9:07 AM Reply   
parks used to do them all the time back in the late 90s and early 2000s, murray and gerry nunn are the only riders i still see throwin them and they through them huge
Old    Spin2Win (spin2win)      Join Date: Mar 2006       04-28-2007, 9:21 AM Reply   
ive seen adkinson do them huge as well
Old    Andy Nintzel-NautiCurl Wake Shaper (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       04-28-2007, 9:23 AM Reply   
Adkinsons got a great 313! cant cheat that trick tho- you have to do a full, extended raley then then a three.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       04-28-2007, 9:36 AM Reply   
I always called it the 3 13.

There a cool guy Scott that I rode with a couple times,he posts here on WW.He does them all the time,clean and all the way in the flats.I think his WW name is Scott313.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       04-28-2007, 9:53 AM Reply   
it's three thirteen, as in john 3:13.
Old    M.K (mkrueger313)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-28-2007, 5:10 PM Reply   
my favorite trick... too bad i cant do it
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-28-2007, 5:31 PM Reply   
travis osborne still dose them over here
Old    Jeff (fuller313)      Join Date: Oct 2006       04-28-2007, 7:03 PM Reply   
One of my Fav's. It really shows who is committed.
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-28-2007, 8:53 PM Reply   
I find the Blind Judge to be a greater sign of commitment. Raley to bs 180.
If u catch an edge, ur fckd
Old    Trevor (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-28-2007, 8:59 PM Reply   
i did an accidental 313 [i pronounce three one three] today. except it was like, backwords, an off axis 360 to raley, and alllllmmmoooosttt landed, sooo close.
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-28-2007, 9:47 PM Reply   
good luck with it Trevor. what is a Raley with a b/s 3?
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-29-2007, 1:31 AM Reply   
a 540 is 515
Old    Sean (hudd007)      Join Date: May 2006       04-29-2007, 3:52 AM Reply   
three one three. I want to sing that song. a one a east something something....anybody know that song????
Old    Antbug (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       04-29-2007, 2:00 PM Reply   
dooie it's an s-bend
Old    alan plotz (alanp)      Join Date: Apr 2001       04-29-2007, 3:41 PM Reply   
i think dooie is referring to a bs 3 instead of a fs 3, like the 313
Old    John Brine (mnwakerider)      Join Date: Jun 2004       04-29-2007, 6:03 PM Reply   
Nunn, has always been known for his 313s. He is given specific credit for it in Higher Education...
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-30-2007, 12:16 AM Reply   
yes what alan said a raley with a b/s handle pass 360
Old    JHG (jhgsupra)      Join Date: Mar 2006       04-30-2007, 4:05 AM Reply   
We saw Gerry Nunn pull one as his "Warm up trick" during his Back Yard Tour. Absolutely huge and unbelievable.
Old    Ron (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       04-30-2007, 10:09 AM Reply   
What's a 313? 360 to raley or raley to 360
Old    Benjamin (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       04-30-2007, 8:11 PM Reply   
raley then 360 when you bring it down
Old    shaun belmont murray (shaun_murray)      Join Date: Sep 2005       04-30-2007, 8:48 PM Reply   
the 3:13 came from an inside quote from Parks and myself back during a pro tour stop meeting probably somewhere around 97'. without going into too many details...we were sitting in a meeting after the prelims in shreveport when we used to ride with the ski course in our course and there were bouys everywhere. some riders were complaining about all the bouys especially this one particular one in the way and they were debating taking it out and parks and i sat in the back and looked at eachother at the same time and both said "I jumped the bouy." like in a no big deal joking manner. for some reason we picked the time 3:13 on our watches around that time, possibly because that was the time of the meeting, and we set our watches and alarms to 3:13 to go off at the same time and each day whereever we were we would pretend to jump the bouy at 3:13. pretty silly sounding, but everyone, including shane, his mom betty, my mom, my brothers, other riders etc...started setting their watches to 3:13 and jumping the imaginary bouy knowing everyone was doing the same thing no matter where they were. about that time parks came out to ride at my house and went for a raley f/s 360 and made it. I went out shortly after and did one too and we decided we needed to name it together and the 3:13 came about. so that wasn't so short, but i think that is the first time i remembered the full reason, so save that somewhere so i don't have to bore anyone else with that again.
Old    Team CBK....Nate (cbk)      Join Date: Aug 2006       04-30-2007, 8:53 PM Reply   
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Yeah, what he said.^^^^^^^^^^
Old    J2 (zuka666)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-30-2007, 8:59 PM Reply   
Shaun you funny bastid!

Mispelled your name sorry...

(Message edited by Zuka666 on April 30, 2007)
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-01-2007, 1:50 AM Reply   
thank Shaun
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-01-2007, 8:25 AM Reply   
Nice! Thanks for the history Shaun.
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-01-2007, 4:56 PM Reply   
so does any one know what a raley with a handle pass b/s 360 when you bring it down?
Old    J2 (zuka666)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-01-2007, 5:17 PM Reply   

If its a hoochie to bs or fs 360 its a hoochie 313, so I figure its the same concept. Call it a blind 313.

(Message edited by Zuka666 on May 01, 2007)
Old    Garret Schmidt (garret_s)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-01-2007, 5:40 PM Reply   
the history of the 313 is probably the coolest thing I have learned today. Maybe this week.

Old    Jeff (fuller313)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-01-2007, 11:04 PM Reply   
Hey Shaun- If you have any more insight on some other moves I'm sure all of us would be all ears.

Ex. S-bend (I heard Shannon Best named it)
scarecrow(Brannon Meek?)
KGB (Gregg Nacrason?)

These are just a few. If any move has as funny story as the 313 I would love to hear it.
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-02-2007, 12:57 AM Reply   
maybe with the 911 they had to call the number so many times when he was trying it, they eventually called it the 911 haha
Old    Boris Markin (borka)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-02-2007, 2:24 AM Reply   
Asking Ryan Siebring about KGB
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-02-2007, 3:32 AM Reply   
this web site has the name of the trick eg. moby dick,what the trick is eg.tantrum with a back side 360 and who it was invented by eg. Brannan Johnson or keith kipp
Old    Caleb Rountree (dlwsrider)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-02-2007, 11:06 AM Reply   
i want to know where skeezer and elephant came from
Old    Ryan Siebring (lostkgb78)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-02-2007, 11:58 AM Reply   
S-bend (Shannon Best) named after the pipe in the back of an Australian Toilet. REALLY

911- (Parks) not sure?

Scarecrow - (Meek) not sure?

KGB - Gregg and I were racing to see who could do it first. Landed the same day. Afterwards we were brainstorming names. KGB was just a name we gave it as an inside joke. We thought it would be known as a blind mobe.

Skeezer (Byerly) not sure?

Elephant - (Necrason) I beleive because gregg did it as big as an elephant, could be wrong though...
Old    Jeff (fuller313)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-02-2007, 1:08 PM Reply   
Hey Ryan, your KGB's looked sick. Are you still riding much these days?
Old    shaun belmont murray (shaun_murray)      Join Date: Sep 2005       05-02-2007, 5:52 PM Reply   
911- parks was doing them for the first time and sonja scheffler/weinacker said "parks you keep doing that thing and i'm gonna have to call 911."
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-03-2007, 4:17 AM Reply   
well i was close!, how did 90210 get its name?
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-04-2007, 12:47 AM Reply   
does KGB stand for any thing?
Old    Paul Morgan (morgs)      Join Date: Nov 2005       05-04-2007, 12:53 AM Reply   
Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti
Old    John Brine (mnwakerider)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-04-2007, 12:57 AM Reply   
makes sense...
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-04-2007, 1:12 AM Reply   
don't know what those words are but now i know
Old    Ryan Siebring (lostkgb78)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-04-2007, 2:37 AM Reply   
Paul- that's exactly what it stands for...

90210 - invented by Mark "Turtle" McNamara
A true toeside 540 s-bend

As I remember, this was a time where tricks were being invented left and right. Mark called it a 90210 as a joke.
Old    Paul Morgan (morgs)      Join Date: Nov 2005       05-04-2007, 3:10 AM Reply   
Maybe some more info will help...

KGB (Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti) is the Russian-language abbreviation for Committee for State Security. The KGB was the umbrella organization name for the Soviet Union's premier security, secret police, and intelligence agency, from 1954 to 1991.

Roughly, the KGB's operational domain encompassed functions and powers like those exercised by the United States' Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the counter-intelligence (internal security) division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National Security Agency, the Federal Protective Service, and the Secret Service in the United States, or by the twin organisations MI5 and MI6 in the United Kingdom. (source: Wikipedia)
Old    Boris Markin (borka)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-04-2007, 4:06 AM Reply   
Thats really it! Actually KGB was based in 1917. 1954 - its just official date. But now this organization named is FSB /Federalnaya Slujba Bezopasnosti/- Federal Service of Security...
FSS - good name for new trick...

(Message edited by borka on May 04, 2007)
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-04-2007, 7:49 AM Reply   
pete rose i guessing named after pete rose?
any one know what a t/s back roll with a b/s 360?
Old    Skubz (bflat53212)      Join Date: Mar 2003       05-04-2007, 8:12 AM Reply   
Pete Rose, because when learning the trick you take a lot of diggers to the chest like your sliding head first like Pete Rose.
Old    Paul Morgan (morgs)      Join Date: Nov 2005       05-04-2007, 12:07 PM Reply   
Lets throw a few more out there...see if anyone has more detail around why they were named that way...(apologies if they the answers have been posted before)


Hoochie Glide


Blind Judge




Tootsie Roll
Old    Ryan Siebring (lostkgb78)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-04-2007, 8:29 PM Reply   
here's the inventors - not sure about all the names

Krypt - not sure Byerly or Gator I think - If you can't figure out the meaning then you're smokin it.

Hoochie - Byerly or gator - same as above

Oriental - byerly - I think it's from skating

Blind Judge - Parks - Not sure

Batwing _ Scott Harwood or Shapiro - not sure

Vulcan - Parks - Parks is a huge treaky

Skeezer - byerly - not sure

Tootsie Roll - Shane - because he was like 11 when he named it.
Old    Paul Bernier (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-04-2007, 9:27 PM Reply   
Dooie- ts backroll with a blind 360 is called a 'blind pete'.
Old    Brett B. (bbking)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-04-2007, 9:38 PM Reply   
thats sooo cool haaha, i feel like i've gotten the inside scoop

that was much better learning than everything i learned at school today, thanks!
Old    mike hillard (otiswunguy)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-04-2007, 9:38 PM Reply   
Thats not all KGB means guys.
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-06-2007, 2:47 AM Reply   
thanks paul
Old    Gregg Young (gdy66)      Join Date: Jan 2006       05-06-2007, 7:35 AM Reply   
If you guys think a 313 is sick you should see Nick Davies (UK) do a raley to handle pass fs 540 he stuck it last summer at the cable worlds i think. He named it 'Nickelodeon'.

(Message edited by gdy66 on May 06, 2007)
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-08-2007, 12:14 AM Reply   
that is a 515-invented by shaun murray
Old    Dave Hart (boarder_255)      Join Date: Jun 2006       05-09-2007, 4:01 AM Reply   
KGB Kind Green Bug
Old    Ron (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       05-09-2007, 10:50 AM Reply   
This is a great thread.

Dave- kind green bug?
Old    Dave Hart (boarder_255)      Join Date: Jun 2006       05-09-2007, 1:50 PM Reply   
Kind Green Bud

Sorry typo
Old    Ryan Siebring (lostkgb78)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-09-2007, 5:55 PM Reply   
WRONG... but close...
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       05-09-2007, 6:04 PM Reply   
I think Harwood invented the batwing. it could be I just remember seeing him in a mag doing it, before I saw shapiro doing it.
those names are bringing back some memories.
Old    Pat P (cable_rocker)      Join Date: Nov 2004       05-10-2007, 12:41 AM Reply   

is there a video of shaun doing a 515 cause i never seen this trick behind the boat! if yes please post a link!

but dont forget, nick is doing this trick at the cable wich much easyer for my understanding and he stick this trick very consistend and do it also in the contest.
Old    Dave Hart (boarder_255)      Join Date: Jun 2006       05-10-2007, 4:04 AM Reply   
I am pretty sure Green Bud is correct. As for the K I am not sure
Old    Dooie (dooie)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-13-2007, 1:52 AM Reply   
what is a tantrum with a f/s 360? a tantrum with a b/s 360 is a moby dick. i know that


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