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Old     (dekay)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-01-2007, 4:52 PM Reply   
The number "425-248-9978" works. I got his voicemail, so keep trying that number.
Old     (wake1012)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-01-2007, 5:05 PM Reply   
thats the original number i talked to him on. Last night it said that the number had been changed. I just tried it and it does go to machine.
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       03-01-2007, 5:07 PM Reply   
maybe i can call him from my son's phone. he has a washington number.
Old     (knarbar)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-01-2007, 5:21 PM Reply   
Its hard to believe that some of these posts actually say maybe its not a good idea to jump to conclusions and judge this josh guy. "maybe theres an honest explanation for all this". Now dont get me wrong everyone deserves a second chance. People make mistakes and this community of wakeboarders is a D**M good one. This guy had his chance. The money was obviously recieved the board was never sent and the guys phone is mysteriously not working or hes just not ansering. Come on lets be real here. I wish you the best paul and hope that you find your money, board, and or josh. If you dont mind me asking though. What marius were you buying that cost 500 dollars. Platinum? Package board? I only ask cause bro if its just the regular marius with no boots or nothin 06 or 07 He ripped you off the back
Old     (wake1012)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-01-2007, 5:37 PM Reply   
Try it.
Old     (wake1012)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-01-2007, 5:50 PM Reply   
it was not 500 bucks it cost me like 120 but Im only 16 years old and now broke so it sucks. And I dont have a new board and I have to save more money.
Old     (wake1012)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-01-2007, 6:10 PM Reply   
Over my b-day and christmas i saved up my money and spent it on some zeus bindings and then i needed a board and now im out of money
Old     (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       03-01-2007, 6:18 PM Reply   
If this is true, and this goes unresolved,I Hope this guy doesn't have the misfortune of running into any of the WW contingent from our neck of the woods down the line.
Old     (worththewake)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-01-2007, 7:20 PM Reply   
Maybe Chuck Norris can help!
Old     (johnsvt)      Join Date: Dec 2006       03-01-2007, 8:01 PM Reply   
Maybe someone should start a thread of things you absolutely never do when purchasing over the internet. Sorry Paul I would say you are better off chalking this one up as a learning experience. You could try calling the local authorities where he lives sometimes they can be helpful. I would talk to them and have receipts and e-mails ready to fax, they may be able to help.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-01-2007, 8:28 PM Reply   
You should at the very least file a report with the local authorities, just to get it on record.

Can I nominate Josh Boyd for thread of the month on his Marius Platinum for sale thread? That sure was a doozy!
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       03-01-2007, 8:34 PM Reply   
I don't know how you check this stuff, but I'm in for $5 to one of our online vendors to get Paul n new deck.....get 80 people to match that and a only line vendor to give WW their cost & I bet he is compensated with a Marius Platinum.
Old     (john_v96)      Join Date: Apr 2003       03-01-2007, 8:36 PM Reply   
first of all
im not to excited with you mike smith linking my name to josh, i think a phone call would of been better... now im linked to someone who is a scammer.. thanks bud!

im sorry for the kid who lost his money.. its a hard way to learn a lesson. ive been there..

i cant get intouch with josh i havent talked to him since x-mas. he is in bad shape going throught alot of bad times.. josh is a good guy and he needs some help.. i hope for the best for him and his family...

josh owe's me $10,000.00 so i have my own problems with him

sorry everyone but i have no ties with him
Old    murrayair            03-01-2007, 8:56 PM Reply   
I'll chip in some dough for a new board, too. Just need to know where to send the money.
Old     (john_v96)      Join Date: Apr 2003       03-01-2007, 9:00 PM Reply   
i will also pitch some dough

let me know the address to send the check...
Old    walt            03-01-2007, 9:06 PM Reply   
Count me in for a few bucks.
Old    wakeboardpunk17            03-01-2007, 9:11 PM Reply   
Just tossin it in there but the post office or ups could've just "misplaced" the board, its happened to me and you wont know until they find it and realize their mistake in which they contact you. We are going all gung-ho on this Josh dude and for all we know he really could have sent the board and gotten arrested or hurt or something. Best of luck and if you dont hear back from him I'll pitch in the $5 for the cause
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-01-2007, 9:19 PM Reply   
Me we gonna do this?
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       03-01-2007, 9:20 PM Reply   
Someone(Joe U / Dave W) want to take responsibility with a PayPal account, I will forward my money tomorrow.

Hard for me to believe that we can't get this kid a deck. After JonnyV's post....I can safely assume Josh is strung out.....and his Valentines treat for the wife was really just slamming a teenier........

I apologize in advance to Josh & his family if I am off base.....but..........
Old     (liveoz)      Join Date: May 2002       03-01-2007, 9:48 PM Reply   
This post started in February, I nominate it post of the month.

1st prize: new board
Old     (wakemb)      Join Date: Mar 2006       03-01-2007, 9:50 PM Reply   
I will collect the money via WU. When all the money is collected I will buy a new board for Paul.


I can chip in some cash (it is CDN and not worth much).
Old    murrayair            03-01-2007, 10:02 PM Reply   
Troy- good idea, lol.
Old     (ryane)      Join Date: Feb 2007       03-01-2007, 10:06 PM Reply   
ill throw in 15 for the kid I even have a extra pair of 05 Zues. I know they are not hinge tech but I dont like that anyways.keep me posted ill help this kid out.
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       03-01-2007, 10:10 PM Reply   
hang on to your money folks! i'm working on it!
Old    kc700            03-01-2007, 10:19 PM Reply   
I got five on it.
Old     (colorider)      Join Date: Jun 2001       03-01-2007, 10:29 PM Reply   
I understand that sometimes life tosses you a curveball and you have to deal with it. He is in hard times, he owes someone else a buttwad of money. He could at least answer his phone and let Paul know the situation. Just say, Hey, I am in a world of hurt over here, sorry this is all messed up, lets work something out. Does not take much to push the "answer" key on a cell phone. His phone number is now on a public forum and if enough people call it and harrass him (not suggesting that, but then he will have to change his phone number or service provider costing him money which he obviously does not have. Or he will not be able to afford a new number or cell carrier and will have to do without. Just like Paul is doing without a board. You can try and be the nice guy for only so long, then revenge can feel better then getting what you were owed.

(Message edited by colorider on March 01, 2007)
Old     (attila916)      Join Date: Oct 2005       03-01-2007, 10:40 PM Reply   
Keep me posted Joe, I am willing to help out.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       03-01-2007, 11:10 PM Reply   
I've got a 06 140 Marius that you can have, I know you were looking at the 134 but its all I got. Unlike others I believe in karma & if you take my board it simply means more Christmas presents in 2007, woo hoo!! Seriously though, Paul its yours if you want it. Unless your scamming us all....which brings me to another point, what if Paul Naney IS Josh Boyd & pulling the ol' double whammy. I'd probably still give you the board for being a sneaky bastard.
Old     (garret_s)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-01-2007, 11:25 PM Reply   
wow. That is pretty cool BH. Paul, you should take him up on that one.
Old    murrayair            03-01-2007, 11:54 PM Reply   
Everyone give a hand for Big Heavy. That's really cool, man.
Old     (tyboarder03)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-01-2007, 11:59 PM Reply   
Big Heavy for "Man of the Month"!!!!!
Old     (morty)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-02-2007, 12:31 AM Reply   
Wow steve, that is awesome, I had hoped that my guidance as your older brother would manifest itself in some marvelous way...and it sure has, Good work!
Old     (speedy600)      Join Date: Dec 2006       03-02-2007, 1:02 AM Reply   
Tell you what Paul, if this guy is in AZ, let us know where he is at. We are down here for the winter and will do what we can for you. If I can't help you out, I'll offer up my board in return. I got your back all the way man!!!
Old     (goinbigg17)      Join Date: Jul 2002       03-02-2007, 4:35 AM Reply   
Wow that is a crazy situation. I hope it all gets resolved for you. I am down for tossing $5 in the pot when it becomes available.
Old     (rmack)      Join Date: Jul 2005       03-02-2007, 5:02 AM Reply   
This kid is going to end up with like 5 boards. Not to be the hard azz, but look at it this way. We've all been scammed one way or another and you take this $120 lesson and get smarter. That's my 2 cents.
Old     (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       03-02-2007, 5:14 AM Reply   
true Ryan, but he's just a kid...I mean he saved his bday and xmas money for new gear. This kid has his priorities straight! With that said I'll pitch in for a new board, this thread alone is worth at least $15
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       03-02-2007, 5:36 AM Reply   
Instead of giving him a board, I like benjamin's idea and all sending him like $10 so he can buy a brand new board of his choice.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       03-02-2007, 6:10 AM Reply   
I say lesson learned, let the kid ride!

Morty, your chivalrous ways have rubbed off on me. If only I could find a way to dance like you. **sigh**
Old     (wakegenie)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-02-2007, 6:23 AM Reply   
if you pm me your address I'll pitch in too I can give ya maybe like 10-15 (it's all I can spare till I get a job)
Old     (wake1012)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-02-2007, 7:18 AM Reply   
Im speechless
Old     (byrd)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2007, 7:28 AM Reply   
Big Heavy, are you shipping him the board? If so I'll pay shipping. If not, Paul, I've got $7 & some change left in my paypal account from the last deal. It's yours if you want it...
Old     (cathy)      Join Date: Sep 2004       03-02-2007, 7:30 AM Reply   
I'll pitch in too.
Old     (colorider)      Join Date: Jun 2001       03-02-2007, 7:32 AM Reply   
Paul. we don't put up with shenanigans! Welcome to wakeworld.!!
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       03-02-2007, 7:34 AM Reply   
Paul, I'll send the thing to ya. 1) Is it the right size? 2) Will you use it? 3)You've seen the power of WW, don't let us find out you sold it 3 days later & 4) The board is used, its seen better days. It has one crack along the edge that has been repaired. As I look at it now, I also see a small spot of bird poo (small bird though).
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       03-02-2007, 7:37 AM Reply   
PROPS to big heavy. and everyone else who's down. way to step up ww.

count me in for the pot
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       03-02-2007, 7:52 AM Reply   
Big props to BigHeavy...not only for the offer, but making me spit coffee with the bird poo comment.

BH....keep the board on hold, let's see what JoeU has up his sleeve....and if we can finance a 134 plat version... If not, the poopy board may be just the ticket!
Old     (kylielogan)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-02-2007, 8:03 AM Reply   
this is why big heavy is my hero and the best valentine a girl could ever have! he truly is all that is man - LOL! BUT ... if the board isn't the right one for you, paul, then count me in for $10 toward a new board.
Old    K.B.C.            03-02-2007, 8:21 AM Reply   
I'm in also
Old    swass            03-02-2007, 8:24 AM Reply   
I'm pretty impressed by everyone's generosity and attitude. Steppin' up to help a kid get back on the water after he's scammed by a fellow WWer is too cool. Ya'll deserve a round of applause.

I hope it was worth it, Josh. Unless you have a very good explanation, I doubt if you'll ever be welcome here again.
Old     (byrd)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2007, 8:25 AM Reply   
Maybe after he gets out of rehab...
Old    Ben Kerran            03-02-2007, 8:49 AM Reply   
If we end up doing some donations, someone with more knowledge on the easiest way to set it up, CHIME IN. I would be happy to send this kid a $20. It's all about Karma.
Old     (tcluv85)      Join Date: Jan 2004       03-02-2007, 8:49 AM Reply   
Does anyone know if whoever bought the other board rec'd it yet?
Old     (cathy)      Join Date: Sep 2004       03-02-2007, 9:18 AM Reply   
Ben - I think nominating someone to collect funds via PayPal and then ordering the board to ship directly to Paul is the way to go. I think Joe Umali is working on something.
Old     (knarbar)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-02-2007, 9:19 AM Reply   
Hey paul I have about 3 boards and one of them is 134 marius from last year. It has some sun fade but its in good shape. Its yours if you want it just pay the shipping and let karma catch up with josh. My names david bro. You can email me at or gimmie a call 559-707-2593
Old            03-02-2007, 9:32 AM Reply   
Paul we at innov8 action sports feel bad about what happened and we know this is not how the wakeboard community is, we dont treat each other like this, so all of us at would like to offer you this. CWB wakeboards is also helping us out with this, so props to CWB for there help!!

If you do not receive your money back or the board you bought does not get shipped to you, then we would like to offer you an 07 CWB Marius 134cm free of charge. We feel bad that you worked hard and saved your money to buy a board and got ripped off, so we are offering you this board, if all that was said is true and you do not get your money back or the board shipped.
Let me know.
Innov8 Action Sports
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       03-02-2007, 9:48 AM Reply   
YEA! The online wake community is good stuff....
Old     (redv215)      Join Date: Mar 2005       03-02-2007, 9:50 AM Reply   
Sorry this happened to you Paul. No one deserves to get ripped off.

Jeff & all that were willing to donate funds - AWESOME

I love WW. I am proud to be a part of this online community and to call ALL of you MY friends
Old     (rooster_cogburn)      Join Date: Feb 2006       03-02-2007, 9:54 AM Reply   
WOW, this is some great stuff.


So it Looks like Paul is taken care of, I'm gonna find a local kid and help them out Paul's name.
Old     (miller_time)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-02-2007, 9:58 AM Reply   
Props to everyone helping this kid out!! I thought the guys on Pirate 4x4 were nice for helping the guy out, but this site continues to amaze me with how selfless everyone is. I myself know how hard it is to scrape up the money for something you really want and then get screwed out of it. I hope this all gets worked out and I'm in for a few bucks too if thats what is decided on.

p.s. Big Heavy About fell outta my chair with the bird crap comment!
Old    Ben Kerran            03-02-2007, 9:59 AM Reply   
Innov8/CWB-That is awesome!! Paul-Enjoy your new board!
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       03-02-2007, 10:03 AM Reply   
hey, its a SMALL bird!!
Old     (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-02-2007, 10:11 AM Reply   
Im in denver bro, geve me some contact info and I will pitch. Shizz, I will give you a ride to a shop if you want to buy live, or just look at em. Let me know
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       03-02-2007, 10:25 AM Reply   
cwb is steppin' up and will send paul a new marius platinum 134! TO EVERYONE WANTING TO DONATE MONEY TO HELP PAUL OUT, THANKS A TON, BUT KEEP YOUR MONEY AND SPEND IT ON CWB STUFF!!!

paul, send me your contact info.

(Message edited by dakid on March 02, 2007)
Old     (knarbar)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-02-2007, 10:34 AM Reply   
Old     (toolfan)      Join Date: Jul 2003       03-02-2007, 10:43 AM Reply   
Joe, BH, CWB, Innov8, WakeWorld(Dave Williams)...huge props!!!!!!!!
This really made my day.

ps-Dave, do you ever say "boogity, boogity, boogity"? Just wondering since you are the 2nd coolest DW i know.
Old     (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       03-02-2007, 10:47 AM Reply   
once again, a small community steps up and takes care of business. props to everyone out there who volunteered to help a fellow rider out. this is why wakeboarding (and wakeworld) is one of the greatest communities out there. thanks to CWB for stepping up as well. because of this, my next board purchase will be a CWB. I am sure they will have at least one board that will fit my riding style.
and to Josh, I sure hope you have a very, very good excuse for your misbehavior. karma is a biotch my friend.
Old     (kylielogan)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-02-2007, 10:52 AM Reply   
well, i don't know if anyplace in colorado sells CWB gear, but they do always seem to step up so if i can locate a sticker or something for them i'll put it on my jeep to sport around for 'em! p.s. they seem like such a cool company ... i just don't get why some random SMALL bird would wanna sh*t on them!
Old     (byrd)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2007, 11:08 AM Reply   
Kylie, pm me your address and I'll get a few stickers out to you. I dont think I still have it...
Old    K.B.C.            03-02-2007, 11:11 AM Reply   
Thanks Joe and CWB. That is awesome, this website is unbelieveable! Enjoy the new ride Paul.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-02-2007, 11:21 AM Reply   
Just caught up with this thread from last night, incredible. What a great group of people we have here. CWB has just earned a lot of respect and my next board purchase.

I love WW!
Old     (chaser)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-02-2007, 11:23 AM Reply   
Hey Joe, someone stole my 2006 Wakesetter. Can you call Malibu and work your magic?
Old     (wkbrdr)      Join Date: Jan 2006       03-02-2007, 11:30 AM Reply   
wow...its a great board just sad you had to get ripped off...Props too cwb and Jeff...nice work guys...
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       03-02-2007, 11:33 AM Reply   
I knew I was involved in a company that has their stuff together but this is awesome!! Big ups to everyone! Paul, enjoy your ride and if you ever find yourself in Central Ca, come out for a ride!

If I were a betting man, I'd say the culprit was either a Finch or North American Sparrow. You take that & then bake it in the sun & you get a quasi perma-poo.
Old     (seansmitty42)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-02-2007, 11:37 AM Reply   
thats awesome im glad i ride cwb now!!! how can u seriously rip a 16 year old off like that. what an ass
Old     (tyboarder03)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-02-2007, 11:40 AM Reply   
Even in winter after all the boat and brand and speaker bashing this site always blows me away... I don't think I've ever come across a better online community than this one what and amazing collaboration of people!!! Props to ll of you guys, and Paul Karma is awesome and as far as I'm concerned is legit so pay it forward.
Still stunned
Old     (dreambig)      Join Date: Jul 2006       03-02-2007, 11:41 AM Reply   
Wakeworld is amazing!!!!!

I was planning on getting another board and had a few companies in mind but after this it will be a CWB no doubt about it.
Old     (epic1)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-02-2007, 11:43 AM Reply   
my next board too...
Old     (jon4pres)      Join Date: May 2004       03-02-2007, 11:47 AM Reply   
Great job everyone. Innov8 and CWB you guys are great.

I keep checking this thread in order to see what Paul says when he gets the news.
Old     (alanp)      Join Date: Apr 2001       03-02-2007, 11:48 AM Reply   
wow, thats cool. jeff/cwb you guys are awesome
Old     (tyboarder03)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-02-2007, 11:49 AM Reply   
I keep checking it cause it makes me happy! honostly how about thread of the year

(Message edited by tyboarder03 on March 02, 2007)


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