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Old    jay_23            08-17-2006, 3:37 PM Reply   
for all you liquid force lovers out there. which board do you like better, the Team or the Substance, and why. thanks in advance.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-17-2006, 3:49 PM Reply   
Team's faster, Substance has more pop. You'll get opinions both ways. I personally prefer the Substance. I'm kinda partial to molded fin boards though too.
Old    kylie-logan (kylielogan)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-17-2006, 4:00 PM Reply   
I've never ridden the Team (and suck as a wakeboarder in general), but I bought the substance this summer and love it. I'd highly recommend it because it feels very stable and I'm getting on edge a lot easier with it (without faceplanting!). Um ... do I need to add myself to the haterlist now on the "pusher" thread?
Old    Skylar Leatherman (skeetersky13)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-17-2006, 5:12 PM Reply   
i love the team...
it really depends on what you want. evan is right..the team is faster and the substance gets more pop. but the team has 6 fins which makes it track really well and has a continuous rocker..the substance has a 3-stage rocker.
-skylar
Old    Anodyne (anodyne)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-17-2006, 5:20 PM Reply   
...or if you want something crazy, try the Fish. That board is just WAY too much fun. I have a Substance, and it's a killer board as well, although it's not as fast as I'd like... I like my boards pretty fast.
Old    Cliff Griffin (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-17-2006, 5:26 PM Reply   
Substance, way more pop imo.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       08-17-2006, 8:02 PM Reply   
Substance no doubt,also try the PS3....a little faster substance.I personally love it.
Old    jasonL (aebrand.com) (_jason_)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-17-2006, 8:43 PM Reply   
Substance for sure. Absolutly love mine. Its great.
Old    Mike Guinan (liquidforce21i)      Join Date: May 2006       08-17-2006, 9:37 PM Reply   
just switched from a team to a substance....best switch ever
Old    kevo_3wg            08-17-2006, 10:31 PM Reply   
substance is sick but i havent riden the team
Old    Derek George (wakesurfer54)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-17-2006, 11:05 PM Reply   
the substance is a sick board

kevo whats up man i didnt no you were on here
Old    Nate Hudson (iamnathanhudson)      Join Date: Dec 2002       08-18-2006, 6:56 AM Reply   
I know it wasn't an option but you REALLY should try out the Watson!
Old    jay_23            08-18-2006, 11:42 AM Reply   
do you guys ride the substance finless????
Old    Andrea Ensminger (parkgirl)      Join Date: Nov 2001       08-18-2006, 11:46 AM Reply   
I was going to get the substance but got the PS3 which I hear is similar. I love it and I ride it with out the center fins.

I used to ride the team, it was a good board too but it hurt my knees because you land way out in the flats.
Old    Melanie G (melanie_g)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-18-2006, 11:56 AM Reply   
I have both, I prefer the team.

Team is faster and I feel more controlled when turning to come back into the wake. I feel a more controlled edge up and through the wake. I also like the cupped fins, it fits my style.

Substance has an insane amount of pop, it feels like I am getting popped early compared to my Team. It also has a way loser feel and I have to really use my edge to keep it locked in.
Old    mike hillard (otiswunguy)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-18-2006, 2:07 PM Reply   
I agree with the write in option of watson.
Old    Jake W (meteora184)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-18-2006, 4:51 PM Reply   
i like substance, it has more of a snowy feel supposubly, and i like the loose boards like that
Old    schooledrider (rmcronin)      Join Date: Aug 2002       08-19-2006, 10:27 AM Reply   
If you're a big guy you might want the Team 143. It has more surface area than my old Balance 144 but not quite as fast. Haven't heard a bad thing about a Substance. I've tried the 142-fun ride but I like my Team better for my style.
Old    jay_23            08-19-2006, 7:18 PM Reply   
which board has softer landings???
Old    Mike (ponyh8r)      Join Date: Dec 2004       08-19-2006, 10:50 PM Reply   
Jason,

the substance is a great board, but the landings are brutal. I switched to a Watson this summer and the spine down the middle gives great, supersoft, marshmellow, pillow, cloudlike landings.
Old    Chad Wheeler (malibu73)      Join Date: Jun 2006       08-20-2006, 6:55 AM Reply   
The team has super soft landings
Old    Clinton (just_board)      Join Date: Jul 2005       08-20-2006, 9:02 AM Reply   
i second the fish.

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