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Old    Jon (socalf150rider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-14-2006, 8:07 PM Reply   
i was wondering if anyone has had any major problems with putting 20" on the trailers im about to buy a new boat and was going to put 20" rims on the trailer. I work for a rim company so getting them isnt a problem. thanks

-Jon
Old    "G" (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-14-2006, 9:14 PM Reply   
Check with the "Ya Heard" me guy if he dosent have them Im shure he will be getting them soon
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       06-14-2006, 9:18 PM Reply   
i don't think they'll fit w/o modification? I think the biggest you can go is around 17
Old    Zach (zacharoo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       06-14-2006, 9:21 PM Reply   
does'nt changing the wheel size affect the gross weight rating for the wheel and change the carrying weight of the trailer??
Old    Craig (yosquire)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-14-2006, 9:35 PM Reply   
You'd have to be quite careful not to short cut any corners over curbs. It'd be a whole different story with 20's.
Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-15-2006, 12:02 AM Reply   
Also, tight turns in general, you may spin a bead. As far as fitting, it should fit as long as you pair it up with a low-profile tire. That would take up a similar amount of room as a normal rim with trailer tires that have a tall sidewall, right?

But that would be way pimp. I think I have seen it done before, looks hella hot. Do it and post pix :-)
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       06-15-2006, 6:46 AM Reply   
Aren't trailer tires somewhat different than passenger car tires anyway?

What kind of problems would this pose trailing at high speeds? Would it be similar to the Carlisle tire escapades?
Old    Jon (socalf150rider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-15-2006, 8:25 AM Reply   
yea i went to boat show and i saw about 5 trailers that had them. They all had the Good Year GT 2 tires which is a suv tire. I know the load rating is a problem. There going to match my trucks 20"s the boat is a 06 x-star i will definatly post pics. What i might do is when i go to local lakes put the 20"s on and if i do any travling (like to the river) i will put the stock tires and wheels. I know that the wheels need to be a +0 offset and no wider the a 8 inch. we will see how it works out
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       06-15-2006, 8:32 AM Reply   
I think i had heard something other than just the load rating, but I can't remember what it was. Your idea seems reasonable though, we want to see pics!
Old    Aaron Ware (99_slaunch)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-15-2006, 12:29 PM Reply   
There was an orange/black BU with the Ford Harley 20' wheels and 275/45-20 Goodyear 106v max air 44psi 6ply and 2094lbs.
Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-15-2006, 3:20 PM Reply   
yes trailer tires are pretty different in construction to normal passenger vehicle tires... kinda forgot how though haha, sorry something about the plies, and being radial or not..
Old    Aaron Ware (99_slaunch)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-15-2006, 3:29 PM Reply   
Kevin
most new trailer tires are radials now. The main concern is load index and plies. You should have at least a 6ply or load range C tire.
Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-15-2006, 6:52 PM Reply   
yeah, what he said :-) haha
Old    formulacb            06-15-2006, 6:52 PM Reply   
Keep in mind, the larger side walls take a lot of the road vibration out of the ride. If you have a newer trailer with torsion axles, you probably would do any harm, but watch the width.
Old    Jason (bounty_hunter)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-20-2006, 3:41 PM Reply   
I have 20's on my trailer. Had to have special wide fenders to fit them.. Have had no problems towing with them. I have a 06 Sanger v230, so its a large boat that weights around 4000 pounds. Just watch the curbs!
Old    Jon (socalf150rider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-20-2006, 3:58 PM Reply   
where did you pick up the fenders
Old    Airmousam1 (mitchm)      Join Date: Sep 2002       06-20-2006, 5:44 PM Reply   
Jason, Sounds sweet, can you post a pic?
Old    Matt (pittsy)      Join Date: Apr 2004       06-20-2006, 7:43 PM Reply   
Jason...can you post a pic? i think we would like to see it!
Old    Jason (bounty_hunter)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-21-2006, 7:35 AM Reply   
When I bought the boat it was on a custom trailer with the 20's! Had the polished stainless wide fenders already installed and a few other nice options that don't come on a standard trailer. I will post up some pics later today for you guys.
Old    Jason (bounty_hunter)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-21-2006, 8:25 PM Reply   
here are some pics of the wheels, hope this helps.Upload
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Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-21-2006, 8:49 PM Reply   
Nice chock haha. sorry :-) Very clean looking, I dig it. You don't have anything on the top of the fenders to keep it from getting scratched when people stand on it? (assuming you let people stand on there) Sweet pix, thanks
Old    Matt (pittsy)      Join Date: Apr 2004       06-21-2006, 11:12 PM Reply   
how close are the 2 tires?...it looks like they are almost touching but they wouldn't be!
Old    Dan Lee (dan_lee)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-21-2006, 11:58 PM Reply   
I don't think popping a bead will be a problem. I just sold this setup and put probably about 2500 miles on it without too much trouble. The first 500 miles sucked when I lost 2 wheels cause I didn't tighten down the lugs after I drove it a few miles. All new studs and I was back in action.
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Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-22-2006, 1:52 AM Reply   
wow
Old    Erin M (emay)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-22-2006, 6:42 AM Reply   
Holy 8 wheels, I don't like cleaning 4.
Old    Jason (bounty_hunter)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-22-2006, 6:51 AM Reply   
the tires are close to the fenders in side, about 2" of clearance though. I have put about 1,500 miles on the trailer so far and haven't had any issues. I hade a clear coat put on the stainless fenders , so that way when people step on them they aren't getting scratched up. But most of the time no shoes allowed! lol
Old    Jon (socalf150rider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-22-2006, 7:45 AM Reply   
holy crap those pics are awesome.
Old    Matt (pittsy)      Join Date: Apr 2004       06-22-2006, 11:37 AM Reply   
that trailer is HUGE..8 wheels is a joke..
Old    Brit Rider (brit_rider)      Join Date: May 2004       06-22-2006, 11:51 AM Reply   
Now that's a rig right there!!! Wow!

Ont he tyres issue, maybe running some run flats would be an idea.. they have a super thick sidewall so load rating may be better. something like a Good Year NCT5 Run-on Flat or something? they won't be cheap though - look at about $400 a tyre!
Old    Jon (socalf150rider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-22-2006, 11:58 AM Reply   
surfside- how big is your boat? That require any specail permits to tow or anything?
Old    Dan Lee (dan_lee)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-22-2006, 12:18 PM Reply   
Yeah, that trailer was kinda a joke. I built it up to do one thing, draw attention and it worked. The boat was 34'10" long, 11'4" wide. I was supposed to have special permits but never got stopped in traveling 2500 miles not counting the original trip from OK with the boat from a different dealer which was an additional 1200 miles. If I was ever stopped I would have been screwed. Anyone ever see the wakeboarding photos behind this? You can see them in the "current news" section of www.surfsideboats.com
Old    Dan Lee (dan_lee)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-22-2006, 12:30 PM Reply   
Oops was going to add thisUpload
Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-22-2006, 12:31 PM Reply   
That wake is HUGE!!! How many guys blew out their knees coming back down? What length line and where did you tie it to?
Old    M-Dizzle (liquidmx)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-22-2006, 1:06 PM Reply   
Upload

Dude, a wake like this would bring so much joy I would giggle like a little girl.
Old    Jon (socalf150rider)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-22-2006, 1:11 PM Reply   
omg, that is in sane.
Old    Dan Lee (dan_lee)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-22-2006, 1:46 PM Reply   
95', 26 mph, no real injuries, tied it off to the radar arch
Old    Isaac Gredinberg (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-22-2006, 3:53 PM Reply   
can you imagine a double up from that thing?
Old    Mark Riley (madchild1)      Join Date: Mar 2005       06-22-2006, 5:22 PM Reply   
that wake is BEAUTIFUL!!!

however, how many gph was that barge burning? 20? 30?
Old    Dan Lee (dan_lee)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-22-2006, 9:11 PM Reply   
two 8.1s burn 24gph at cruise(3000 rpm) that boat had a bunch of people and believe it or not an additional 1200lbs of fat sacks on the photo of Jeff House hitting the wake seen above. Total weight was right around 15,000 lbs, just plain stupid.

If you look up a Regal 3350 and 3360 on boat test it shows these boats burning nearly 50gph at WOT, a calculation I never wanted to finish while I owned this rig, I'm glad to be footing the gas bill behind 21 footers again.
Old    Craig (yosquire)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-22-2006, 9:38 PM Reply   
24gph........

wow...(gulp)
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-23-2006, 8:55 AM Reply   
holy crap, that wake is gihugeous
Old    Clarke (cp3)      Join Date: Dec 2005       06-23-2006, 6:02 PM Reply   
Isaac
The first pic is off a double up
Old    Isaac Gredinberg (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-23-2006, 11:48 PM Reply   
thats just really nutty...

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