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Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2005, 9:10 AM Reply   
Over 3000 wakeboarders voted over the last 4 days and the results were a bit too close to call. The powers that be have reset the ballots and narrowed it down to the two following options. Please take a moment and vote again!

http://www.wakeboardingmag.com/cover_voting.jsp
Old    (DRA) deltariders.com (sanger215guy)      Join Date: Oct 2004       06-29-2005, 9:30 AM Reply   
Hahn;

I say b is the most impressive. A is great but has been a similar cover in past issues.
Old    r_dub            06-29-2005, 9:58 AM Reply   
Wow, I canít believe this is even close. I mean, they are both cool covers, but havenít we seen "A" a thousand times now? I mean, what makes it so special? Is it because there is a mountain in the background? Donít get me wrong, Iím not knocking it at all, it is a great picture. But, "B" is new, fresh, and innovative. And basically something we really havenít seen before. I just donít understand the resistance to progress, even though progression might mean your steal from other sports every now and then.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-29-2005, 10:03 AM Reply   
innovative? that's been around since the late 90's. how is that innovative?

personally, i like 'em both.

a = classic tail grab.
b = "extreme" shot.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-29-2005, 10:08 AM Reply   
Print them both. Have an alternative cover. Collectors will probably buy they other copy anyways.
Old    r_dub            06-29-2005, 10:11 AM Reply   
Sure people have been doing sliders since the 90's. But I think seeing a ledge like that, which has probably never been touched by a wakeboard, now I think that is pretty innovative.
Old    emboarder            06-29-2005, 10:14 AM Reply   
Down with B.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-29-2005, 10:22 AM Reply   
J-Rod got it...Print both of them and I bet hardcore wakeboards get both copies,each one with a different cover and it might be a collecters item somewhere down the line.
Old    waterdog2            06-29-2005, 10:34 AM Reply   
At first glance, B look's like just another skateboard magazine.
Old    chubbydaddy1            06-29-2005, 10:42 AM Reply   
VOTE FOR B NICK IS A BETTER RIDER ! BRIAN SUCKS ! HE IS A CRY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B is a much harder trick!
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-29-2005, 10:56 AM Reply   
Ohhhhh boy.....here we go.

Actually, I'm going to have to call PHOTOSHOP on B. Look at the slack in the rope!

Personally I don't care who is on the cover or how technical the trick is as long as it has style.

But really, back to the slack in the rope. He is going way faster than the pwc and he is probably still accelerating. I doubt he rode out clean before sinking and waiting for line tension to pull him back up. It's a cool stunt and dangerous no doubt, but A still has more style imo.

(Message edited by jarrod on June 29, 2005)
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-29-2005, 10:59 AM Reply   
looking at it better...there is no PWC,the handle and the rope is there just for looks.IMO

Photoshop on B...Easy call!

(Message edited by big_ed_x2 on June 29, 2005)
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-29-2005, 11:03 AM Reply   
jrod, not to disrespect your opinion, but i don't think isler's gotten this far in the industry by photoshopping pics.

i highly doubt it's 'shopped, but i do agree that he probably didn't ride it out.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2005, 11:04 AM Reply   
J-Rod,

No photoshop, the ledge was pretty steep and the pwc wasn't quite moving fast enough at that moment. I agree that the slack in the rope hinders the picture a bit. I like both.

Chubby,

Both Nick and Brian are great riders and both work very hard representing our sport and this industry. Bashing someone on a message board is not only cowardly but immature. If you're so awesome I invite you to come out to my next photo shoot and we'll see what gets published.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-29-2005, 11:15 AM Reply   
Guys...I was totally kidding on the photoshop thing. (note the toolfan style inverted red triangle)

I would never seriously call PS on these guys.

My comment about my own perception of the concrete slider stunt not looking as clean is just my opinion.
Old    Steveô (kingskrew)      Join Date: May 2004       06-29-2005, 11:19 AM Reply   
I hAve officiAlly voted. I wouldn't want to swAy Anyone's opinion, so I won't sAy which one I voted for.

-Steve
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2005, 11:42 AM Reply   
Is that what that little triangle is for? I always thought it was just a typo....
Old    jetgofish            06-29-2005, 12:08 PM Reply   
I'm going to have to vote for A. At first glance of B I don't even see a rider all I see is a huge wall then the rider. Don't get me wrong in all it's a sick picture but to much like a skate mag. If I were staning in the store looking at these two covers and wanting to grab something about wakeboarding cover A makes more of a statement, classic and we've seen similar, but this jumps out and shows you wakeboarding. IMO
Old    Cliff Griffin (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       06-29-2005, 12:11 PM Reply   
Hahn,

I have some very special moves I've been working on. I'd love to have you take some photos of me.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2005, 12:51 PM Reply   
Cliff, you know I already told you that I don't do porn.
Old    chubbydaddy1            06-29-2005, 1:37 PM Reply   
Solo
I have never claimed that i was any good you said this not me! ! And just how I achieved this ďBrian is a babyĒ conclusion!
Well I was in town for work and went to the Fort Worth Tour Stop and as an outsider that looks at this sport. Not a PRO photogepher like yourself! Who has all the incite and the know, like your self! I watched Brian throw the handle down after he landed a trick! Like a 4 year old child!
I know they both rip but!
But with any thing in this world we all have opinions! Like you called me immature that is your opinion. Keep shooting and good luck!
!
Old    r_dub            06-29-2005, 1:43 PM Reply   
Anyone who is VERY passionate about a sport has over reacted at one time or another. Big deal!
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2005, 2:01 PM Reply   
Being as competitive as these guys are, maybe he wasn't happy with his pass. Does that make him a "Big Baby"? I think everyone on this message board, including you, have had a less than perfect day on the water. Does that make us all "Big Baby's"? To your average wakeboarder, watching professional athletes ride can be jaw dropping. Just because he landed a trick, maybe he missed the grab or it wasn't as clean as he normally throws it. Everyone can get frustrated it's human nature. Making a comment like that twice, without ever having a conversation with that individual just makes you look overly critical. To each is own. Thank you for the encouragement. Check out the August issue of WBM and read my article on Lake Havasu pg. 72. Enjoy!

(Message edited by solo on June 29, 2005)
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-29-2005, 2:10 PM Reply   
didn't parks break a board in half after a bad run? i believe it was when he was w/ free motion.

i could be wrong.
Old    chubbydaddy1            06-29-2005, 3:41 PM Reply   
Thanks Steve ! I will look for the August issue !
Did you mean Sept thought ? Pg 72 ofthe Aug WBM issue is "Danny Harf Thowdown" In Ft Worth?Anyway I will look out for you anything you right in the next issue, it should be good !

Your Right to each is own!
I have had a conversation with Brian in orlando but that is another time and Place !But he rips on the water ! No question about that !
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-29-2005, 4:02 PM Reply   
Page 78 sorry! In the September issue I have a feature story on Bartlett lake. Look for that one next month.
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       06-29-2005, 4:29 PM Reply   
I pick B. Although A shows one of my favorite grabs , it seems to be a bit played out in the mags lately. It's not every day you see a guy sliding down a huge piece of concrete.
Old    doctor octagon (dococ)      Join Date: Mar 2002       06-29-2005, 4:43 PM Reply   
Good point, Blabel. At least its not another nuclear grab (or nukular, as they say in Crawford).
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-29-2005, 5:05 PM Reply   
I pick B because it's good.
Old    r_dub            06-30-2005, 6:11 AM Reply   
Looks like B has taken the lead!
Man, the excitement!
I can hardly stand it, lol
Old    Danny T. (partydock17)      Join Date: Apr 2004       06-30-2005, 7:25 AM Reply   
B has my vote.

Dan T.
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Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-30-2005, 8:54 AM Reply   
Poll Results

Cover A 50.1%
Cover B 49.9%

Total votes: 2545.0

It's a nail biter!

Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-30-2005, 8:55 AM Reply   
And still going that is.
Old    byerly137pro            06-30-2005, 11:17 AM Reply   
What exactly is Brian doing in that picture, I know its a tailgrab, but im not sure if this makes sense, but is he doing it toeside or is he doing a HS backside 180 with a tailgrab. I don't know if thats actually possible.
Old    Justin Stephens (justinstephens)      Join Date: May 2003       06-30-2005, 12:52 PM Reply   
Cover B for sure...
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-30-2005, 12:55 PM Reply   
it's certainly possible. That would be my guess judging by the water coming off the board.
Old    joestewart            06-30-2005, 1:08 PM Reply   
Cover A for sure. It's the best one.
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       06-30-2005, 1:11 PM Reply   
Alex, I have been working on a shifty tail grab for awhile now which is what I think he is doing. Since it puts you in such a weird, blind position, I can't imagine doing a 180 out of it. But if he did, I would be very, very impressed.


Here's a crappy pic of my version:

Old    brandon livermore (pirate)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-30-2005, 1:14 PM Reply   
CHUBBY, before you go and open your ignorant mouth you might want to know that Brian broke a bone in his heal during that run, and that is probaly why he threw his rope down. You might also take notice that brian placed better then he ever has at a pro tour event that same weekend with a broken heel. he has also continued to ride the tour with this injury all year, which shoes heart, if not for anyother reason brian deserves the cover based souly on those facts.

also I would hate to see a over hyped dock start make the cover of WBM.

just my thoughts
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-30-2005, 1:23 PM Reply   
hahahaha, you can't spell.

dispyte yore speling erors, yore post was good, untel the last sentens. sory.
Old    Tim (raketball)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-30-2005, 1:30 PM Reply   
I don't think I have ever seen anyone call somebody ignorant only to make an ass out himself in the process. What a gem.
Old    brandon livermore (pirate)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-30-2005, 1:35 PM Reply   
wow correcting peoples grammer how cool

you guys are right, hey lets go ride
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-30-2005, 2:04 PM Reply   
ok, I was an ass, I apologize, I'm sorry.

I will still have to disagree with you though. I don't think anyone deserves more coverage than someone else just because they've sustained an injury. That idea is laughable.

Note: I couldn't identify either rider in either picture and I still pick B.

Who is the rider in B?

Oh, and I'm not defending Chubby.

Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-30-2005, 2:15 PM Reply   
Blabel: Have you tried taking that back to a late FS 180 into the flats? Makes it even more fun! Although, my shifty tail isn't near as poked and rotated as yours. If you haven't tried it you should give it a shot.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-30-2005, 2:24 PM Reply   
Nick Ennen
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-30-2005, 2:36 PM Reply   
thanks Hahn.
Old    TeamValdez (teamvaldez)      Join Date: Apr 2003       06-30-2005, 2:58 PM Reply   
Another factor in this whole situation is the rider. Nick Ennen is an awesome pro active wakeboarder who will take the time to communicate with kids and those who don't ride on their level. He represents what I want my kids to emulate and THAT is getting few and far between with non old schoolers. He is not one of those who shut themselves up in a cool room with the other "cool" guys. He will be driving the boat, gassing them up. wiping them down and interacting with the groms. He deserves a cover shot not only for the pic being so sic but for his attitude OFF the water. Good job Mike, keep up the great work.
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Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-30-2005, 3:06 PM Reply   
I assume you mean Isler?
Old    TeamValdez (teamvaldez)      Join Date: Apr 2003       06-30-2005, 5:24 PM Reply   
yup, I know that you were there Steve, but didn't Mike take the shot?
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-30-2005, 5:39 PM Reply   
No I thought you meant Mike Ennen. Yes Isler took all three shots.
Old    bizo            06-30-2005, 8:48 PM Reply   
How come you freakin gapers are picking A. I can't belive some deush bag said it looks to much like a skate mag. idiots, Nicks shot is sick, sick like malaria. how many tail grabs have you seen or done. too many. Nicks shot is better.

jeff 2 and teri go rollerblading with your other rollerblading friends.
Old    waterdog2            07-01-2005, 11:51 AM Reply   
Read it again. See the, at first glance,Somebody needs a time out!
Hahn, How about a 10th issue with just photos, no add's, mabey in the winter.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       07-01-2005, 2:33 PM Reply   
Sponsors advertise in the magazine enabling them to distribute and keep the publication going. Without Ad's and money from Ad's the magazine wouldn't be able to keep publishing their product. Nice thought though.
Old    waterdog2            07-01-2005, 4:25 PM Reply   
Playboy does it and get's you for an extra 10 bucks!
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       07-01-2005, 5:23 PM Reply   
Yeah but Heff can afford to do that!
Old    foamy            07-01-2005, 5:23 PM Reply   
A:49.99
B:50.01
i think B is better but damn i am exited to see how this turns out
Old    the not so naked chef (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       07-02-2005, 1:53 PM Reply   
I have to say, I do find the skate mag comment rather amusing...because it looks nothing like it. It would actually look much better if it were a skate cover (no bindings...gnarbuckets)(oh, and that's not to say that I don't respect the wake cover.) Snowboarding, yes, I could agree with that (case in point)...

Anyway, I'd like to give "big ups" to cover b.
Old    Salmon Tacos (salmon_tacos)      Join Date: Jan 2003       07-03-2005, 10:17 AM Reply   
The scenery in Cover A goes MUCH better with the "Go West" title plus Cover B is not a good shot. I mean, the composition, lighting, etc. are all good but the slack rope and the fact that the rider looks like he's falling over kind of ruin it. They should have made him do it again...take 2! Oh, well. I guess cover B is more...OMG...eXtReME!!!

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