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Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-21-2005, 8:01 PM Reply   
I need some help from my wakeworld friends! I have a choice between two boats and I am torn. I really need some help! I like them both equally!

1. Solid orange (Spy Optic Orange) from the rub rail down (even the bottom).

or

2. Solid white with a small red stripe at the water line, and another small red stripe above the rub rail (solid white for the most part). The white boat also has the polished stainless rub rail and the depth finder already installed. All of the other options are the same.

The orange boat is loud, which I like! The white boat will never go out of style whether I sell it in one year or 10. I'm thinking the white gel coat will look better for a lot longer also. Less likely to show wear and tear.

Any suggestions guys?
Old    Squid (twakess)      Join Date: Mar 2002       06-21-2005, 8:07 PM Reply   
J-rod, I would say white. I think you will grow tired of the orange one. Oh ya what is your new e-mail.
Old    gruelie            06-21-2005, 8:07 PM Reply   
I dont know both sound good. I did see the Spy Optic SAN in Alliance and loved the colors on it. You might get tired of them is the only and MC's always look good in red and white.
Old    E Double U (three6ty)      Join Date: Feb 2004       06-21-2005, 8:08 PM Reply   
J-rod,
Go with the white.

The orange will hurt you if you decide to resell it down the road.
Old    dtw. (notsobueno)      Join Date: Dec 2004       06-21-2005, 8:09 PM Reply   
j-rod, can't go wrong with the all white. Hides the waterspots better, not totally, but better and with a little red accent, the white sounds like the better choice IMO.
Old    CIE (tonis)      Join Date: Mar 2005       06-21-2005, 8:12 PM Reply   
1st instinct- PiMp JuIcE OrAnGe! HALLA MIKE JONES! CHEA!
Old    Nelly (gnelson)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-21-2005, 8:16 PM Reply   
Im sure the orange looks tight but I would go for the all white. I think its a real clean look and its always in.
Old    ALee (aaronlee13)      Join Date: Jul 2001       06-21-2005, 8:20 PM Reply   
J-rod... got rid of the Malibu?
Old    drewsky24            06-21-2005, 8:43 PM Reply   
I would personally get the orange, but it's so noticable, I ride in the bay so the cops always sit there and watch out for the most attractive boats. So if you do one thing wrong you got yourself a ticket. You should go with white.
Old    Antbug (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-21-2005, 8:56 PM Reply   
J-rod ~ This may help here are some pics from MC website.



Old    tommyc (tommyc)      Join Date: Nov 2003       06-21-2005, 8:59 PM Reply   
PIMP...Orange!!! Go for it
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-21-2005, 9:13 PM Reply   
Sorry Tom, but J-rod I'd go with the white.
Old    nic (x2momma)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-21-2005, 9:13 PM Reply   
What shade of red is the stripe? Pro tour red or Viper red? We almost bought a white one that had the viper red stipe below the X-2 decal. I like your white version better. Go with the white.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-21-2005, 9:18 PM Reply   
Wow...lots of votes for white. I expected it to be somewhat evenly matched.

Lots of good points on the all white boat.

The white boat looks exactly like the one above except with an additional red stripe on the hull line just below the X-2 Graphic.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-21-2005, 9:50 PM Reply   
I was gonna suggest the all white back a couple weeks ago but I though you were set on the orange one.I agree the orange one looks awsome now but the color like that might get old after a while,while the white one is always gonna looks classy.
As far as the water spots.....once you clean a boat with alot of color like that orange one or like a blue one like mine,It shines baby and looks CLEAN!

IMO...go for the white!I did say the orange MIGHT get old......but not necessarly
Old    Eric (mjfan23)      Join Date: Nov 2003       06-21-2005, 9:55 PM Reply   
Go for the orange!!!!
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-21-2005, 10:51 PM Reply   
i like 'em both, but for long term, i'd go w/ the white.
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-21-2005, 10:55 PM Reply   
I am a big fan of white boats because they don't fade as much in the sun. Plus, they clean up easier.

Orange is cool today. But, for resale, you will have 10% the interest -- its going to cost you a few thousand, IMO.

Sorry, I am not an orange kind of guy. I would go with black if I wanted to make a statement, but I would never go for anything but mostly white down the road because my boat lives on a dock in discovery bay.

Still, if orange floats your boat, go for it. You only live once!
Old    Scott (scott_a)      Join Date: Dec 2002       06-22-2005, 1:01 AM Reply   
white. timeless. simple. classic
Old    Craig Butinsky (olddude)      Join Date: Oct 2003       06-22-2005, 4:21 AM Reply   
J-Rod, Both are great colors, white is timeless, interest for orange could fade like the color will in time but you take care of your boat so go with the color you want, it's a really hard choice but it's one that you need to make!!!
Old    walt            06-22-2005, 4:46 AM Reply   
White.
Old    Randy (dudeman)      Join Date: Mar 2005       06-22-2005, 5:19 AM Reply   
The white pic rocks, but it is your $$$.
Old    root (rootc)      Join Date: Aug 2002       06-22-2005, 6:04 AM Reply   
"white. timeless. simple. classic"

You forgot to add boring, no style, average
Old    jmac_04            06-22-2005, 6:31 AM Reply   
How long do you actually think you will keep this boat? If you plan on having it for a LONG time I would say white, but if not, have fun and go loud with the orange.
Old    Matthew Bird (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-22-2005, 7:22 AM Reply   
White allows the lines of the boat to speak for itself. i think the all white looks good on the trailer but even better in the water. And root c they are anything but boring especialy if your going with the two accent stripes. Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought i heard that the white one is already over at ski world and the orange one is still being built.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 7:29 AM Reply   
Matthew: That is true, but I'm trying not to let availability affect my decision. The orange boat is only 1 week away.

I definitely won't be getting a new boat every year. This boat could be around for 4-5 years. If I knew I was buying a new boat every year, it would be the orange one without question.

Question: does anyone else have the stainless steel rub rail? I'm curious on how they hold up compared to he standard plastic.
Old    (DRA) deltariders.com (sanger215guy)      Join Date: Oct 2004       06-22-2005, 7:50 AM Reply   
J-rod;

I personaly would go with the orange, it is stand out and a statement on the water. The white is a safe choice and more appealing for the masses when you look to sell it. The stainless rub rail is awsome looking but do not hit anything with it. It does not hold up to bumps and docks. Once it is dinged it shows, the reflection of light seems to make it stand out. I was going to change out my rub rail, but quickly changed my mind after seeing one that had a few small dings.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-22-2005, 7:59 AM Reply   
People with white and red X-2's are pimps.
Old    gunny_baker            06-22-2005, 8:12 AM Reply   
Definitely go white! The orange will be like all those people buying the yellow cars right now. They're hot right now and people love them but in 3 years or more, NOONE will want them and you'll be screwed when you try to sell and upgrade. But honestly either way you go, you're gonna be the envy of everyone around you to include ME and my '96 Stingray I/O !!!
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-22-2005, 8:19 AM Reply   
and blue with white!


I think the stainless steel rubrail is tough looking and was looking into changing mine.The dealer told me it was gonna cost me aroung a $1000.00 so I'm waiting on it a little but definetely didn't know if it dings too much,tho that might change my mind.I guess I'll see Evans or yours when you guys had it for a while.

What about hitting your trailer guards a little when you put the boat on the trailer,will that ding the rubrail??
Old    bambamski            06-22-2005, 8:32 AM Reply   
When I bought my boat, the dealer had an X-2 in the show room that had black strip at the rubrail, orange middle and a black bottom. It looked sick!! I went with the red in the middle but the black/Orange boat really looked good! Here's a pic of mine to give you a bit of an idea of what it would look like. I'll see if I can dig up a pick of the orange one I took.

Old    DRA-Doug (load)      Join Date: Jul 2003       06-22-2005, 8:36 AM Reply   
Both good, but I vote White.
Old    bambamski            06-22-2005, 8:42 AM Reply   
Here's a pic of the orange one. I think it looks great,

Old    (DRA) deltariders.com (sanger215guy)      Join Date: Oct 2004       06-22-2005, 8:42 AM Reply   
The stainless does not hold up like rubber or a hard plastic. Stainless is not a plyable material. The finish of the stainless is unquestionable. As far as the trailer guards I think it would hold up for the general light bumps in trailering. It is something that is going to take some additional care to keep looking nice.
Old    Cabin (kaben)      Join Date: Apr 2001       06-22-2005, 8:43 AM Reply   
They both look good. I'd go with the white only for resale value.
Old    bambamski            06-22-2005, 8:44 AM Reply   
or go with this if you don't like the black bottom. It's in red but just picture it in orange. Black around the rubrails, orange middle and a black stripe. I almost went with this one as well.
Old    Dave Kiehl (dave27)      Join Date: May 2005       06-22-2005, 9:06 AM Reply   
One Holloween roles around and you will wish that you chose white. Trust me I know, my friends have a orange Malibu. White is sick and clean. Hope it's the pro tour red, I hate those dark reds- aka maroon.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       06-22-2005, 9:14 AM Reply   
J-Rod,

The Orange is pretty pimp. With a matching trailer it looks really good. Here is a pic of Ty Udells rig.


I also like the orange and black hull x-2 above.
Old    Jason Pribyl (skibum69)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-22-2005, 9:15 AM Reply   
I have heard from a few sales guys at different dealerships that the gelcoats scratch when loading and unloading on the trailer and that colored bottoms show the scratches.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 9:24 AM Reply   
Based on most of the responses here, it's safe to say that if both of these boats were used, and up for sale in the classifieds, that the white boat would sell much faster and would likely remain in better condition.

This is only the wakeboarding market, which typically favors flashy colors and bling. How about the market for family boating? For resale, not only would I limit myself to the wakeboarding market, I would limit my potential buyers IN the wakeboarding market.

Old    Peter Tamminga (petertjr)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-22-2005, 9:30 AM Reply   
orange, no question
Old    Charles (chas)      Join Date: Feb 2002       06-22-2005, 9:31 AM Reply   
J-Rod
We have a red and white one here at the shop you can use, come get it any time
Old    bambamski            06-22-2005, 9:40 AM Reply   
Personally I don't like the all white boat. I think that would hurt resale more than a boat with a bright colour. I think if the colour is done tastefully then you should have no problem. Green or lime green is the only colour I've ever thought you'd have a hard time selling.

When you see all the fleet vehicles going up for sale or auction they're always white and they never have any decent options on them. To me they look cheaper and they never get as much money on resale as a vehicle with some colour. I think the same way about boats, I'm not sure if everyone else does though.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 9:42 AM Reply   
Sweet! Thanks Charles. Let's take it out tonight and slam it!
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-22-2005, 9:43 AM Reply   
Pat ~ why is lime green different?I thought it looked good just the same!
Old    bambamski            06-22-2005, 9:49 AM Reply   
Big Ed

I wasn't sure if I'd like the orange when the dealer talked to me about it. In the picture it looks ok, but in person it REALLY looks good. I was quite surprised.

The dealer here in town had a lime green Tige at the boat show a couple of years ago. I thought the colour would grow on me, but it didn't. It just didn't look good at all.

I like green cars, some green trucks I've seen. But green boats are out!

If you read this JK, sorry, but that was an ugly boat.

Old    Flux (flux)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-22-2005, 9:51 AM Reply   
I watched used boats a long time before I pulled the trigger. Personally, I wanted a unique boat that had a colored deck and hull, or one that just looked really sharp. I wanted either orange or black in the color scheme, red and blue were also considered, but anything that looked good was considered as well.

From what I saw (these were SANS), the boats with the nice color schemes sold faster. Granted, these were well chosen schemes (Orange, Red, Black, etc.). I had my eye on an all white with black stripe. It was a very clean boat, but I never got that hot on it. When the boat in my profile pic came up, we bought it within a week. We did not wait at all.

I have no regrets on the boat at all. Yes it shows the scratches more readily, yes it shows water spots and requires more waxing and wipe downs. But the thing is, you look at the boat, not at the scratches. I have gotten a ton of compliments on it, as did the previous owner. People who don't have ski boats ask about it, people who don't have boats ask about it.

If you really like the orange, then do it. you are the guy who comes home each day and sees it in the driveway, or looks at it from the shore. I really don't know who would buy a Blinged out X-2 for anything else but boarding. It's a sporty boat, give it a sporty paint job and throw some individuality into it. I saw an all fluorescent green one for sale that looked absolutely incredible, who'd a thunk?? It ain't for sale anymore.

On a side note the white one is pretty dope as well, those boats really look good no matter what. If you are worried about getting hassled by the man every time you go out, you are doing something wrong anyway.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 9:53 AM Reply   
it's is basically the same boat steve hahn posted but with a red stripe instead of orange. I think that looks really sharp.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-22-2005, 10:05 AM Reply   
Pat ~ I agree,I just wanted to hear it I guess.Lime green is out,I maybe like it for 2 months.Tho the orange is different.

J-rod ~ I agree,that does look sharp.
What color would the trailer be?And do they have the graphics on it yet?

(Message edited by big_ed_x2 on June 22, 2005)
Old    Brandon (sylv2080)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-22-2005, 10:09 AM Reply   
J-rod I have the stainless package on my Tige 21i and I love it. My rubrail has held well and it really sets it off.....I have a white/platinum 21i Limited and I love it! Of course the nice HUGE teak platform helps that also! Good luck
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-22-2005, 10:27 AM Reply   
I changed my mind. I think you should go with the orange. You seem to dig it. It looks sweet. And, being overly practical sucks.
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-22-2005, 10:30 AM Reply   
BTW, I think the black/orange boat pic posted by Pat is fugly. Yet, I think the orange accent boat pic posted by Hahn is sweet!
Old    Flux (flux)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-22-2005, 10:32 AM Reply   
Nice one Dane. Is there anything about wakeboarding that is practical???

It's fun turning heads.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 10:39 AM Reply   
This is killing me.

I'm still concerned about the Orange appeal, condition, and resale in 5 years if I keep it that long.

Old    Squid (twakess)      Join Date: Mar 2002       06-22-2005, 10:43 AM Reply   
Ok heads orange and tails white. How is that J-rod. I would get the one that throws a bigger wake.
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-22-2005, 10:44 AM Reply   
The full orange is much nicer than the black and orange -- stay away from black if you get the orange.
Old    Mike G (mike_gilbert)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-22-2005, 10:46 AM Reply   
J-Rod, I have seen a few solid white X-2s and they looked killer. I can speak personally of orange, my cousin used to have an orange VLX, it was just orange on the main stripe, but was pretty hard to take care of. The orange also shows fading a lot more than white. Either way good luck on your boat.
Old    Dave Kiehl (dave27)      Join Date: May 2005       06-22-2005, 10:46 AM Reply   
white is right!
Old    Charles (chas)      Join Date: Feb 2002       06-22-2005, 10:49 AM Reply   
Should we invite Evan????
Old    CIREboardshorts.com (nuckledragger)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-22-2005, 10:50 AM Reply   
If you are looking for something that will hold a higher resale value, go with white.

But personally I like the orange because it is different than what most are trailering out there. Just keep it waxed and off the beach and the orange will be sweet!!
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-22-2005, 11:00 AM Reply   
You should buy the boat you want to keep/drive/ride not the boat you want to resell.

In the end, all boats depreciate like mad. You are buying fun not an investment.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-22-2005, 11:07 AM Reply   
Charles.... Don't you have something to be working on over there???? Sorry, couldn't resist. Let's go. This work $hiz is overrated.

I still like the white boat better. I think the orange is really cool, but if they can't do it all orange (like the Dukes of Hazard), then I wouldn't sport it. I really like the white with orange stripes, but that's not an option. I also really like the stainless rubrail. We'll see how it holds up. We loaded mine on monday in the wind and did the double-bounce off the trailer guides. It made an ugly noise, but didn't leave any marks on the rail. I'm going to get trailer guide pads anyway, though.
Old    Matt (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       06-22-2005, 11:22 AM Reply   
White, it just looks clean and is definelty unique on a wakeboard boat.
Old    Charles (chas)      Join Date: Feb 2002       06-22-2005, 11:26 AM Reply   
Evan,

you were right, it still comes out of the hole good with another 1000lbs in it.
Old    will c (wakemaniac69)      Join Date: Nov 2004       06-22-2005, 11:29 AM Reply   
orange or yellow with a black top if they will doit.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-22-2005, 11:42 AM Reply   
Yeah, baby. No worries... It's got 6 hours on it. That's broken in, right? It's got the wake, now it just needs the bump. Do it up like that 'Bu in your shop, will ya?

Still say: white and red. Get a black bimini though, otherwise people may think we're homo lovers that have matching boats.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 11:49 AM Reply   
you mean we're not?

Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-22-2005, 12:41 PM Reply   
forget resale, forget fading, forget scratches and all the crap...and I still pick the white. I think it just looks better. White with red pinstripe and black bimini would be absolutely sick. Trust me, I got steez.
Old    Lance (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       06-22-2005, 12:51 PM Reply   
I say black and red

Old    Xgirl (melanie)      Join Date: Apr 2001       06-22-2005, 1:09 PM Reply   
Orange. Put a little brown in it too and WaLa presto! You have yourself a Cleveland Browns boat. Sell it around Halloween. Or in Ohio.
Old    ozonerider            06-22-2005, 1:09 PM Reply   
For what it's worth, I'd go with the white. While orange is the hot color right now, think about the last lime green boat you saw...

Now if the solid-color hull was red, blue, yellow, or black --- that would be a different story.

On the other hand, if you just love the orange and don't mind losing a few $$$ when you get tired of it or it goes out of style and you get a new boat, go for it!
Old    eric fox (fox)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-22-2005, 2:00 PM Reply   
I think Lime green looks pretty hot. I think Pork Chops has Lime in his ride. Go for the orange...you know you want to! I would if I had the money to do it...then it would match my truck. Remember...beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.

Eric
Old    bambamski            06-22-2005, 2:25 PM Reply   
In the end, get what you want and don't let anyone tell you what you should like. It's your boat, you have to live with it. Unless you're going to flip it in a year or so don't worry about someone not liking the colour you're getting. I'm thinking that you're buying the boat for you and not someone else who may buy it in 4-5 years.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-22-2005, 2:35 PM Reply   
Pat has a good point...you are buying the boat for you and not the guy buying the boat in 5 years,though on the other hand they will throw the SAME wake and have almost all the same options.

It is your decition and what ever you go with will be DOPE.I say go for the one you really,realy want and if that means losing a little value down the road,so be it,it will lose value anyway but not nesessarly will it lose value more.

(Message edited by big_ed_x2 on June 22, 2005)
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-22-2005, 3:07 PM Reply   
I realize that. Just looking for enough comments to sway my decision one way or the other. I like both boats and will be extremely happy with either.

Here are a few pic of the red and white one. The upper and lower stripes are bigger than I thought. I definitely wouldn't call this an "all white boat." I think it looks really sharp.





Old    Mike G (mike_gilbert)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-22-2005, 3:10 PM Reply   
Oh that looks good.
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-22-2005, 3:11 PM Reply   
OK them go for that one right there!that one is killer!
Old    Big Ed (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-22-2005, 3:13 PM Reply   
plus it give you a line where to sink it too.
Once you don't see the red stripe...READY!!
Old    Tate Viehmann (redv215)      Join Date: Mar 2005       06-22-2005, 4:26 PM Reply   
Definitely go with the red and white. It's different in the fact that it is subtle and most boats now are going loud. The orange will be out of style in a few years, the white will not. IMO
Old    Erik (erik_c)      Join Date: Jan 2005       06-22-2005, 4:42 PM Reply   
The Orange looks differnt in person and with an orange trailer it would be sick I sell um and I can tell you there are way more white boats than orange out there.

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