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Old    Boardingitup.com (wakeboard19)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-10-2005, 7:29 PM Reply   
What do you think is the better deal. What has the better wake. Price is about the same.
Old    Nate (norcalmalibu)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-10-2005, 11:51 PM Reply   
mastercraft for sure on this one, way better build quality. Centurions were known for the crap they produced in there earlier years of buisness.
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       05-11-2005, 6:10 AM Reply   
mastercraft hands down......in addition to it being able to produce a decent wakeboarding wake....when it's time to sell, slalom skiers like this boat as well.
Old    Boardingitup.com (wakeboard19)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-12-2005, 9:47 AM Reply   
I thought the mastercraft would be better. I just didn't know because of the year difference. I heard that the centurion throws a terrible wake.
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       05-12-2005, 10:14 AM Reply   
make sure you have enough weight for the 190...you'll need a minimum of at least 1800lbs. I run aroudn 2000lbs ballast plus 3-6 people
Old    alan plotz (alanp)      Join Date: Apr 2001       05-12-2005, 10:58 AM Reply   
kyle it depends on the height of the sides of that year. i had an 86 ps before i got my 95 ps. the sides were WAY to shallow. i had to put an ungodly amount of weight in the boat to get any kind of wake and it still sucked. but the since the sides were so shallow it was very dangerous driving. i was always worried about sinking that bad boy. but if 89 had the deeper sides then hands down go with the ps 190. if it doesnt have the deeper sides i would just hold out at wait for a 2001 nautique
Old    jeffh555            05-13-2005, 3:07 PM Reply   
i've spent a considerable amount of time in both of these boats... at least 80% of my boarding time in my life has been in one of the two.

ps190 - my dad has had one for at least 8 years.
pros - very solid boat, handles like a slot car, holds its value like crazy, i love the shape of the wake, we have had zero issues in 8 years or so.
cons - small, rated for 7 people, but really maxes out at 6, narrow wake thats not to say i dont like the wake, you will just land in the flats every time.

centurion - i assume the 93 is the same as the 96 falcon i have spent alot of time behind, it was a buddys parents for 4 years, they baught a 05 VLX and sold it to another friend of mine.
pros - very roomy for a closed bow dd, 4 people across the back seat isnt bad, wake is slightly bigger, wider wake, the rear seat on the 96 turns into a sundeck which is really nice.
cons - wont hold its value as well as the mc, doesnt feel as soidly built, but they havnt had any problems with it, sits really low in the water.

other notes, i need to weight the 190 more, i've only had 600lb of water in the back and 550lb of people up front. my dad was against fat sacs until last summer, and we only went twice, both times only one of my riding buddies and a couple girls went. this summer i'm gonna have to do something to get some more weight in it, at that point, i'm not worried at all about it taking on water. the falcon on the other hand with the sac full and 5 people in it, it will take on water front or rear at any time.

ultamately i'd say neither, look for a nautique 2001 if you just want a sick wake, or spend a little more and get a 20 ft open bow dd. my buddy just picked up a 93 tige open bow for $13,000 nice wake, nice interior. and the open bow will be much easier to sell when it is time to upgrade.

sorry, i dont mean to hijack, but ps190 owners, what are you doing for weight? i was thinking some concrete filled tubs on the sides of the motor and the sack behind it. how much room do i have over there, how narrow of tubs do i need? the boats sitting at the lake.
Old    Richard (ramhouse)      Join Date: Apr 2004       05-13-2005, 5:59 PM Reply   
Mine is a '93. For local, i keep 700lbs.of lead in it always, and all seem to be happy with the wake. Board, skate and even surf. For those extreme days, a 250lb. sac on either side of the motor and a 500lb. in the back.
Old    alan plotz (alanp)      Join Date: Apr 2001       05-14-2005, 12:46 AM Reply   
500 lbs of iron and 1100# gravity fed(no pumps required) ballast tanks. prior to the tanks i used a fat seat and a bag in the bow.

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