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Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       12-16-2003, 12:22 AM Reply   
This will be used alot for video editing. In a few days i will be ordering these components.
http://secure.newegg.com/app/shoppingcart.asp?submit=view
I plan to install the OS on the rapture and RAID0 the 120 GB SATA hard drives. I already have these- Pioneer A-05 dvd burner, WD 120 GB hard drive, logitech mx duo(cordless optical mouse and cordless keyboard), Logitech z-560(speakers), Sennheiser HD-212s(headphones)
Does it look like i'm missing anything? Any comments? I figure they're are some editors out there that know a thing or two bout puters.
Old    BoRed (sdboardr99)      Join Date: Aug 2001       12-16-2003, 12:45 AM Reply   
That link doesn't work cuz it's for your shopping cart. What are the specs of the CPU, memory, etc.?
Old    Christopher Stack (deepstructure)      Join Date: Jun 2002       12-16-2003, 2:25 AM Reply   
ya the cartview didn't work jeremy. most importantly, how much ram? i have a gig in mine and its still not enough. and for renders, cpu speed is key as well of course...

Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       12-16-2003, 9:04 AM Reply   
oops sorry. I'll never get any help like that. Look at the next post for an easy discription.





Cables
3 18-Inch, SATA ( SERIAL ATA 150 ) Cable. 2-Head. ( GLOW IN DARK ). It will glows in the dark, It's a Must for Case Modder
Please see image for the actual look more info>
N82E16812104655 $4.99


Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
1 Enermax, CS-31881TA-B3A (Black) 10-Bay ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Side open window - Retail
Specifications:
Form Factor: ATX MID Tower
Drive Bays: External 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 4 x 3.5"
USB/IO: USB2.0 ports,Fire Wire & Audio in/out
Fans: 1x 80mm BLUE LED
Power Supply: POWERUP 350W Intel P4 and AMD
4 channel fan speed adjustable VR controller
Super bright power & reset LED button
Retracable optical drive cover
Approx Dimensions: (D)19" x(W) 8"x (H)16 1/2" more info>
N82E16811124069 $75.00
$75.00

Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
1 Thermaltake P4 Spark 7+(Xaser Edition)Highest Performance Copper CPU Cooler,w/ Temp.Controler.
Specification:
Compatibility: Intel Pentium 4
Dimensions: Fan:70x70x25(mm),HeatSink:82x63x35.5(mm)
Bearing Type: 2 Ball Bearing
Nominal Speed(RPM): 1300~6000
Max Air Flow:-(CFM): 10.42~49.17
Max Pressure: 1.58~11.9 mmH2O
Heat Sink Material: Copper
Rated Voltage: 12 V DC
Connector: 3 Pin
Noise(dBA): 17~43
Special Features: more info>
N82E16835106032 $22.99
$22.99

3 Thermaltake Smart Case fan II With "CoolMod",Variable Fan Speed Controlled by Temperature Sensor.
Specification:
Compatibility: Case
Dimensions: 80x80x25(mm)
Bearing Type: 2 Ball Bearing
Nominal Speed(RPM): 1300/4800
Max Air Flow:-(CFM): 20.55/75.7
Max Pressure: 1.45/8.43 mm H2O
Heat Sink Material: N/A
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Connector: 3 Pin
Noise(dBA): 17/48 more info>
N82E16835999113 $9.30


Hard Drives
2 Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE, Model WD1200JD, OEM DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: Not specified
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM DRIVE ONLY more info>
N82E16822144151 $107.00
$214.00

1 Western Digital 36.7GB 10,000RPM SATA HARD DRIVE, Model WD360GD, OEM DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Capacity: 36.7GB
Average Seek Time: 5.2ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 10000 RPM
Interface: SATA
Features: Not specified
Manufacturer Warranty: 5 years
Remark: OEM DRIVE ONLY more info>
N82E16822144200 $121.00
$121.00

Memory (System Memory)
1 Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack)184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail
Specification
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6 1T
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: Low Latency with Black Heat Spreader
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820145435 $252.00
$252.00

Monitors - LCD Flat Panel
1 Samsung 191T+-Black 19" LCD Monitor - Retail
Specifications:
Panel Type: Active Matrix TFT LCD Monitor
Native Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Pixel Pitch: 0.294 mm
Brightness: 250 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 750:1
Response Time: 25 ms
View Angle: 170° /170° (Horizontal / Vertical)
Input Connectors: 15 pin D-sub, 24 pin digital DVI
Features: Dual CPU input (analog/digital) & auto signal detection, 0.7" bezel width, internal power supply
Dimensions & Weight: 16.1" x 16.4" x 7.5" (WxHxD) / 12.3 lbs


Standard Warranty only N82E16824001148 $649.00
-$10.00
(Instant Rebate)
$649.00
-$10.00

Motherboards - Intel
1 ABIT 875P Motherboard for Socket 478 Pentium 4(800MHz Canterwood), Model "IC7-G MAX2" RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Socket 478 Processors(Hyper Threading)
Chipset: Intel 875P + ICH5R
FSB: 800/533MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA100 Up To 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP PRO 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,SPDIF In/Out,1xIEEE1394a,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: Intel CSA Gigabit LAN
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA with RAID 0,2x SATA with RAID 0/1
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813127152 $164.99
$164.99

Processors
1 Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - OEM
Specification
Model: Intel Pentium 4 2.8C w/ Hyper Threading
Core: Northwood
Operating Frequency: 2.8GHz
FSB: 800MHz
Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.525V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
Packaging: OEM more info>
N82E16819116162 $207.00
$207.00

Sound Card
1 Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PCI Sound Card -Retail
Specifications:
Channels: 7.1
Max Sampling Rate: 192kHz
Signal-Noise Ratio: 108dB(SNR)
Hardware Decode: Dolby Digital EX
Digital Audio: 24-bit
Hardware Polyphony: 64 Voices
PC Interface: PCI
Connectors: Line-out,Line-in,Mic-in,Digital Out(5.1),Firewire(IEEE1394),Analog/Digital CD Audio in,Telephone Answering Device in,GAME/MIDI port via extension header,Internal IEEE® 1394 header and AD_EXT extension header to Audigy 2 ZS Internal I/O Drive
Special Features: DVD Audio,THX certified,EAX Advanced HD,DTS-ES more info>
N82E16829102162 $89.00
$89.00

Video Cards
1
ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X AGP, RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: RADEON 9800 PRO/380MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/680MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: Video In+CATV In+Video Out+DVI connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 2 Cables, VIVO Adapter, VGA via DVI Adapter, Remote Control, USB RF Receiver, 4 CD, Manual
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
Retail Box (See pics for details) more info>
N82E16814102297 $375.00
$375.00


Grand Total » $ 2,197.86




(Message edited by shutupandboard on December 16, 2003)
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       12-16-2003, 9:17 AM Reply   
Pentium 4 2.8 GHZ processor
1 GB of corsair DDR400 (pc3200)
1 WesternDigital 37.6 GB 10,000 rpm harddrive for the operating system.
2 WesternDigital 120GB sata harddrives in RAID0
1 WesternDigital 120GB ide harddrive(already have)
Creative labs sound blaster Audigy 2 zs sound card
ATI ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 pro video card.
1 Samsung 191t 19" LCD monitor. I will also be using my 17" CRT as a second monitor.

Old                12-16-2003, 9:49 AM Reply   
Way not to skimp on the good stuff.

My only suggestion is nothing goes with a intel processor like a Intel Board. D875PBZ would be the option. Abit is good stuff though.

good ram choice.
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       12-16-2003, 4:44 PM Reply   
I have 1 gig of the corsair ram (XMS series) and it kicks a$$!, but it's not enough.... I'm running After Effects and I would suggest as much memory as you can afford! (deepstructure feels my pain...)

Plain and simple, when it comes to video editing with After Effects you just can't get enough of RAM or CPU!

Everything else looks rock solid. I agree with JZwake, but I prefer the asus motherboards... The NEW Asus P4C800-E-Deluxe is only a few dollars more and rock solid!

If you've never built a computer before and want to avoid hours of potentials frustration, then you should check out http://www.monarchcomputer.com I priced out my entire system at newegg and was going to build it myself then I found monarch. They were only $40 more (didn't have to pay sales tax). They slapped everything together, ran the cables all nice and neat (zip tied everything) and they burned it in. Got the machine, loaded the OS, programs and it has been running ever since without and problems.

Two monitor setup is key!!! Once you go with two monitors you'll never go back.

Oh yeah, 350W power supply is ok, but you may want to think about a 450+, especially if you start adding more drives, cards, etc....


My work here is done

karate chop!
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       12-16-2003, 6:09 PM Reply   
Thanks Kung Fu Wake "& Video" when did the & video get there.
Yes i have built a computer before. I like to, but thanks for the link. You probably bought your OS with your computer so they could install it. I already have mine so they wouldn't be able to do that anyway.
As far as the case. I agree. I am still looking for one i like that has a higher PSU and isn't a million dollars. Looks like i'll buy the case and PSU seperate.
HOPEFULLY i'll get to order this stuff tommorow.
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       12-16-2003, 6:50 PM Reply   
Coolio...

The "video" snuck in there when this forum started... (just seemed to fit)

Actually Monarch did the burn-in with the OS, but they sent it totally clean (saved myself $200 that way). Took almost the whole weekend to install XP, Premiere, After Effects, update all drives, all the XP patches, blah, blah...

If you want a phat case check out the Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A Black w/no PS

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ImageViewer/100029.php?id=3

Super cool, comes with all the fans, and tons of bays for hard drives (all tool-less, which is the best part, slide in.. slide out...)

I also got the Enermax Whisper 465w PS with the adjustable fan... very quiet!


What kind of NLE (video editing program) are you using?
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       12-16-2003, 7:29 PM Reply   
Sweet case. I'm going to check out that site right now.

At the moment i use Pinnacle Studio 8. I also have Premiere 6.5 and Vegas 3.0 but Pinnacle is so easy to use i just can't seem to stop using it. Even though it's limiting me. I do have the hollywood effects for Studio 8 which are nice, and easy to use. I want to start using something more in depth but it seems that i don't have the time to learn anything.(3 kids,soccer coach, girlscout leader, yes i said GIRLscout leader.) Everytime i sit down to try and use premiere 6.5 i get frustrated.
I have also read good reviews on Pinnacle edition pro. I might try and download the trial version. I might be able to get used to it easier cause it's from pinnacle, and i'm used to that. Either way it won't be long before i start using something else.
Have you tried anything other than premiere?
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       12-18-2003, 12:06 AM Reply   
I learned on premiere and after effects with some exposure to final cut pro.

I've never tried Vegas, but I've heard a lot of good things about it... especially v4.

Premiere has a slow learning curve, but once you get it down it's easy. Then it's time to learn After Effects (AE) and start the frustration all over again... hehehe.

2.8 with HT and 1 gig ram will be just fine for what you have listed above. If you ever decide to get into AE, just add another gig of memory and you'll be set.

If you hit a road block while using premiere check out the adobe forums: http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/main.html



Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       12-30-2003, 8:27 PM Reply   
Since i posted last, I have downloaded the trial version of Pinnacle edition and uninstalled it a couple of days later. I played with it for a couple of hours. I think i would really like it. The problem was the program just stopped being able to open. I don't know if it was because it was a trial version or what. Anyone have any views on pinnacle edition or pinnacle liquid edition?

Also, after installing the demo, my hollywood effects in studio 8 are gone! Oh well, i'm gettin MY NEW COPUTER SETUP friday!! So i'll be reinstalling everything anyway. Although it does suck not to be able to use them on the wedding video i'm working on right now :-( Speaking of the wedding video i'm doin. Try making a title with the name Subramaniam Ranjiv look good on the screen.
OK i'm done babaling.
Old                01-04-2004, 5:41 PM Reply   
Jeremy, i just built a computer. I had the same delemia on the cases also. If you still havent ordered it, check out www.dealsonic.com . That is were i found my case.
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-05-2004, 6:51 AM Reply   
Thanks Ryan. Already got it. I'm using it right now!
Old    MattG (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-05-2004, 8:44 AM Reply   
Western Digital, I cant count how many times that type of drive has failed on our servers and PC's. My advice would be to stay away from those, they are notorious for crashing.
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-07-2004, 8:30 AM Reply   
I have 2 WD drives right now, a 40 gig and a 120 gig, and have had no trouble(knocks on wood). I did end up gettin 2 160 gig maxtor drives for my RAID0 setup though.

I just recorded my first episode of Punk'd on the computer last night. I'm lovin the All In Wonder Radeon 9800 pro. It's pretty cool. You can use live tv for your desktop backgroud.
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       01-07-2004, 11:47 PM Reply   
400 gigs of WD 8mb drives... no problems either.

Jeremy - So what did you finally decide to get for your system?

Check out http://www.fontfreak.com if you need cool fonts. Plenty to choose from and they're all free.
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       01-08-2004, 12:02 AM Reply   
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but here are some classy fonts for "Subramaniam Ranjiv"

Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-08-2004, 12:22 AM Reply   
Hey Thanks Kung fu dude.

I ended up gettin exactly what i posted except i got the 160 gig maxtors.

So i have:
Pentium 4 2.8 GHZ processor (I will probably be able to overclock this to 3.5 GHZ.)
1 GB of corsair DDR400 (pc3200)
1 WesternDigital 37.6 GB 10,000 rpm harddrive for the operating system.
2 Maxtor 160GB sata harddrives in RAID0
1 WesternDigital 120GB ide harddrive(already have)
1 pioneer A05 DVD burner
1 lite-on cd-rw
Creative labs sound blaster Audigy 2 zs sound card
ATI ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 pro video card.
1 Samsung 191t 19" LCD monitor.
1 17" Mitsubishi diamond scan CRT monitor.
1 32" tv hooked up through the s-video out.
Logitech Z-560's 4.1 surround with sub(ROCKS!)
Logitech cordless mx duo, wireless keyboard and wireless optical mouse.
Hewlett Packard 2110 all in one Printer/flatbed scanner.
Very Very cool lookin case with window and four cold cathode lighted case fans.
Fan controller for the case fans.
Fan controller for the Processor fan.
Old                02-17-2004, 9:00 PM Reply   
I woudl have watercooled it save money in the long run. It wil work more effiently. and i would have gotten 2 80 gb WD 10000rpm hard drives. how are u hooking up 2 monitors into the AIW card could have sworn it only has 1 lcd hook up. just my 2 cents
Old                02-19-2004, 4:24 PM Reply   
power supply??
got any pics of the inside? is raid very hard to set up? thnx
Old    Rich (rson)      Join Date: Jun 2002       03-02-2004, 6:01 PM Reply   
350 is skimpy for PS....also whats with the 17 inch monitor??

I have a similar setup, It is a monster. I would also get a few more fans, rendering is real intensive and creates heat.

Shapshot:
Athlon 3200 XP
1 gig corsair ram running dual channel
Radeon 9800 Pro
48x CDRW, 8x DVD-RW, DVD-ROM
Gigabyte Nvidia pro400 board
Enermax 460 watt p/s
80 gig Raid 0 set-up
80 gig IDE file server drive
21 inch Sony

Onboard raid is really easy to setup, I used partition magic to format and partition the drives.

(Message edited by rson on March 02, 2004)
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       03-31-2004, 2:42 PM Reply   
Nick- I should have watercooled. That damn proc. fan is to loud. I have it on a variable speed controller but to keep it as cool as i want it it's still to loud. As far as gettin 80 gig drives instead of the 160s. That just wouldn't have had enough storage for me. For the price. Yes You can hook up two monitors to the 9800 pro with a splitter.

Rich- Yes 350 is skimpy exspecially cause it's just a generic psu. That was one thing i was asking about. I haven't had any problems yet(knock on wood!) OH and the 17" vga monitor is my old monitor. Ran out of money.
Old                03-31-2004, 5:48 PM Reply   
what kind of splitter is this is there a link or something like that id be interested in getting it. Will it affect the quality of the video.
Old    Jeremy (shutupandboard)      Join Date: Aug 2002       04-01-2004, 4:43 AM Reply   
Nick, Here's a link. http://www.pccables.com/cgi-bin/orders6.cgi?action=Showitem&id=ID1389256&partno=01 700&search=SPLITTER&rsite=o.dvisplit&rcode= I ended up using a cheap GeForce mx440 video card for dual display. I saw a video somewhere on how it was done. You should be able to find it by searching.

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