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Old     (ethan31)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-17-2010, 9:15 PM Reply   
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Old     (eaglejackson)      Join Date: Oct 2004       09-17-2010, 10:29 PM Reply   
Drysuit. Once it's too cold for a neoprene top and boardshorts, I go straight to the drysuit. Wetsuits are fine when you're in the water but once on the boat I would get chilled and catch colds a lot. I switched to the drysuit and stay warm and toasty and don't mind the cold water any more. A drysuit is a revelation and transforms the sport for me.
Old     (supernatural)      Join Date: Jan 2008       09-17-2010, 11:38 PM Reply   
Both definitly have there place. Drysuits are good for the real cold days but are fairly uncomfortable and restricting, while wetsuits are pretty comfortable and much easier to move in. I wear an Oneil 3/2 when the water is under 65'ish (depending on air temp) and switch to the drysuit when the water gets below 58's. I would pick a wetsuit if I had to choese one.
Old     (gherk)      Join Date: Aug 2001       09-18-2010, 1:37 AM Reply   
Drysuits aren't restricting as long as it fits. The seals might be uncomfortable but you won't even notice once you are on the water. Drysuit for sure if it's cold.
Old     (beleza)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-18-2010, 1:57 AM Reply   
Agreed^^^^^ I think drysuits are actually more comfortable than wetsuits... a lot more expensive, but much more comfy all around.
Old     (ethan31)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-18-2010, 7:06 AM Reply   
I think I will go with a drysuit, I live in northern Minnesota. Its 37 out right now, so needless to say it gets cold.
Whats a good drysuit to go with? I hear good things about the o'neil boost. Any suggestions?
What do you layer with? Thin fleece?
I think anything will be a upgrade from leaky 3/2.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       09-18-2010, 7:27 AM Reply   
http://www.adrenalinewatersports.com...&SubID=17&pg=0

great value.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       09-18-2010, 7:33 AM Reply   
Yeah I do the once its too cold for the heater top and trunk I go straight to the Drysuit too. WAY better than a full wetsuit plus you dont have sit in a cold wet suit.
Old     (goatboy)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-18-2010, 8:42 AM Reply   
Never tried a drysuit but my o'neill psycho II (5/3) is brilliant.
Keeps you really warm both in and out of the water and the seals are so good you hardly get any water inside it, even with big falls. Super stretchy too so its comfy
Used it in 50 degrees F and below no problem at all..
Old     (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-18-2010, 4:43 PM Reply   
drysuit gives you total flexability. wetsuit you will still be wet in the boat and if it's in the 60's or below you will get cold. if you come out of it your wet.most people who wear drysuit wear shorts or sweats under them depending on temp. they cost more but they are way more convienent.
Old     (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SLC, UT 5600'       09-19-2010, 9:20 AM Reply   
Sometimes a wetsuit just wont cut it...

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Old     (brettw)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-19-2010, 10:17 AM Reply   
Go with an O'Neill Assault hybrid. I love mine. I never get that initial cold water shock at all.
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Old     (lfadam)      Join Date: Nov 2008       09-19-2010, 10:23 AM Reply   
I had the O'Neill Assault hybrid for 3 years, It was ok...pain to get on with the lower half being tight, the neck seal and wrist seals were never tight enough so they always leaked, but it was thick so I didnt have to layer up much underneath. I finally gave up on it when the zipper started leaking, and I put my heel through the leg when getting it on, putting a 1 inch tear in it. It did last me 3 years though.

Just got my Bare Ultra drysuit in last week. Its sick. I used my friend's a couple years ago and it is thinner than the Oneill so you need more layering, but the seals are awesome. Never leak a drop and much more mobility with full baggyness instead of just upper body.
Old     (A7X_LSV_23)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-19-2010, 1:25 PM Reply   
Man, Can't believe no one has mentioned the Eagle Sports Drysuit. The ONLY Front zip (you can get into it yourself) drysuit on the market! My brother and I both have one and they're AWESOME! Rubber seals everywhere, neck, wrists, and ankles. Used them for about 4-5 months so far and they seem to be holding up great! Seals are still extremely tight. I had to leave mine around a bowl for quiet some time to get the neck seal to stretch out. I'd recommend one of these to anyone thinking about getting a wetsuit! Definitely the BEST investment I purchased for my boat. Just extended my season by about 4 months here in Utah! WOOT!
Old     (mikejones)      Join Date: Jun 2009       09-20-2010, 7:08 AM Reply   
So there seems to be some difference of opinion of wetsuit vs drysuit in this thread, and in another post. For those of you who have had both, whats the pro's and con's? I currently use a 3/2 Oneill psycho that works great, but have been thinking of getting a drysuit for added flexibility/movement. Wetsuits do constrict you a bit, and I've heard drysuits allow much more freedom. Is this really the case? I know when March comes, and I shred the wetsuit, its a totally different feeling when it comes to range of movement. I'm wanting to make sure I'll feel less restricted if I'm going to invest 400 bones on a drysuit. And if I will, how much less restricted?
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-20-2010, 8:07 AM Reply   
To answer original question - get both. Pros of a wetsuit: inexpensive and will not overheat you on mild chilly days and might be a little more durable. Pros of a dry suit: you can layer underneath so you can customize insulation (t-shirt and boardhorts to thermal underwear/jeans and fleece can be worn under the dry suit) and the biggest advantage is that you stay dry which will allow you to ride quite literally in freezing weather! The cons of a drysuit is expense and the gaskets can rip, but can be replaced. The ideal combo IMO would be a decent shorty to get you buy for chilly air runs and water temps to 60 something and won't cost too much and are not very restrictive and are easy on and easy off and get a dry suit for temps below that. If you have closed toe bindings consider a drysuit that has integrated feet. Nothing better than dry feet on cold days and has one less pair of gaskets that can fail. Here is a suit that is kind of expensive and I have one similar to it that is excellent. Breathable so it transmits sweat and will keep your feet dry and warm. Breathability is important because you will probably sweat while riding and when you hit cold water all that trapped sweat can instantly condense making it feel like you are wet in the suit. Not many wakeboarders know about this style as it is marketed primarily to kayakers. The top of the line dry suits are made with goretex and Kokatat seems to be the best brand but a new one will set you back almost a $1K.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-PALM-TORREN...item58862042cf
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-20-2010, 8:14 AM Reply   
Ohh I will also add, that you should wear sweat friendly poly type materials under a dry suit and stay away from cotton. If you get any condesation or the sightest leakage, the cotton will feel wet and has zero insulation once that happens.
Old     (nbigger)      Join Date: May 2008       09-20-2010, 8:25 AM Reply   
Any one try one of these? http://www.npxwetsuits.com/index.php...d=34&Itemid=84 They are for kiteboarding but they seem like they would work good. They even have a zipper if you need to pee.
Old     (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       09-20-2010, 10:05 AM Reply   
Wetuit. Because if it's cold enough to need a drysuit, I'm probably not going. There has not been a time where my fullsuit wasn't enough.
Old    SamIngram            09-20-2010, 10:28 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by A7X_LSV_23 View Post
Man, Can't believe no one has mentioned the Eagle Sports Drysuit. The ONLY Front zip (you can get into it yourself) drysuit on the market! My brother and I both have one and they're AWESOME! Rubber seals everywhere, neck, wrists, and ankles. Used them for about 4-5 months so far and they seem to be holding up great! Seals are still extremely tight. I had to leave mine around a bowl for quiet some time to get the neck seal to stretch out. I'd recommend one of these to anyone thinking about getting a wetsuit! Definitely the BEST investment I purchased for my boat. Just extended my season by about 4 months here in Utah! WOOT!


Yup, it's the "ONLY Front zip drysuit on the market!", except the others that are on the market... lol!
Old     (A7X_LSV_23)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-20-2010, 11:11 AM Reply   
Guess it all depends on what "Market" your talking about doesn't it... Seeing how this is a Wakeboarding website. I guess the "market" would be for wakeboarding/skiing use, not diving! There's actually one made my Gill, that's a front zip that would be marginal for Wakeboarding use.... To each their own
Old    SamIngram            09-20-2010, 11:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by A7X_LSV_23 View Post
Guess it all depends on what "Market" your talking about doesn't it... Seeing how this is a Wakeboarding website. I guess the "market" would be for wakeboarding/skiing use, not diving! There's actually one made my Gill, that's a front zip that would be marginal for Wakeboarding use.... To each their own
The above suit is made by Ocean Rodeo and is generally marketed towards kitesurfing, but they have since started marketing them to wakeboarders too.

The Neil Pryde (NPX) Lucifer is also a front zip drysuit of sorts and is marketed to both kitesurfers and wakeboarders. This year model has been trimmed down so that big falls don't let water in like the last model.

Kokatat also offers several suits with front entry for watersports.

When choosing a drysuit remember to consider whether or not you are going to wear your life jacket on the outside or inside. To many people think you don't have to wear a lifejacket with a drysuit, but you should! In AZ it will get you a nice ticket!
Old     (fullspeed)      Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Santa Cruz County CA       09-20-2010, 4:22 PM Reply   
Dry Suit all the way. I wear a long sleeve shirt and sweat pants under it. I have an older O'neil Dry suit not sure which one, but I really like it. It is baggy on me and I can really move around well in it. The only thing that sucks is when you take a header. SOme of the water shoots down your back. Plus you can't piss in a Dry Suit.
Old    SamIngram            09-20-2010, 4:42 PM Reply   
How many people responding with the drysuit answer actually wear a life jacket? I know a lot of people say that the drysuit is already buoyant so most people don't wear a life jacket. IMO that's just STUPID, not to mention against the law...
Old     (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-20-2010, 4:49 PM Reply   
i always wear a lifejacket because i always crash. i just can't help but try things i can't do over and over. i also wear a helmet.
Old     (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       09-20-2010, 4:49 PM Reply   
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How many people responding with the drysuit answer actually wear a life jacket? I know a lot of people say that the drysuit is already buoyant so most people don't wear a life jacket. IMO that's just STUPID, not to mention against the law...
Stupid or careless...yes, but not against the law in some states to include Texas
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-21-2010, 7:41 AM Reply   
Sam - I always wear a life jacket trunking it, dry suit, or wetsuit doesn't matter.....well almost always. When I wear a wetsuit, the feel of the wetsuit makes it feel like I have a jacket on and there have been a time or two when I honestly forgot to put the jacket on. When I realize this, usually after I ease into the water but sometimes after the first fall if I dock start, I always put it on. USCG approved to boot.

I know this scenario would be unusual, but if you had a significant failure of the drysuit and had a lot of water enter, it could actually make drowning more likely with the cold water shock combined with the profound difficulty you would have trying to swim in a water filled suit.
Old     (shags004)      Join Date: Aug 2012       08-28-2012, 11:15 AM Reply   
Any recommendations for women's drysuits? I can only find ones for scuba diving, or are they the same?
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       08-28-2012, 12:31 PM Reply   
boost O neil size small
Old    sperbet            08-28-2012, 12:35 PM Reply   
If you're experienced getting in and out of a drysuit you should be able to do it yourself with the back zipper. Everyone in our crew has a boost and can get in and out on their own. The only people we typically have to help are those that are borrowing one or don't use their own all that much.

I'd also think having that bulky zipper across the chest would restrict your movement more so then across the back.
Old     (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-28-2012, 1:36 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shags004 View Post
Any recommendations for women's drysuits? I can only find ones for scuba diving, or are they the same?
As said the Oneill boost in a smaller size. I'm not sure how tall you are but My GF just ordered a small and she is 5'2" and thought it was too big for her.
Old     (shags004)      Join Date: Aug 2012       08-28-2012, 1:50 PM Reply   
I'm about 5'7, 115lbs. I've got long legs and arms. Looks like XS would be better according to the size chart but geeeeez lol are these really $450? What's the best site to order from?
Old     (Bakes)      Join Date: Mar 2010       08-28-2012, 8:50 PM Reply   
Baggy drysuit is the way to go. I pretty much wear the same stuff on the lake as I do on the slopes.

Kokatat is my favorite drysuit. October is my favorite month for boating. Nobody on the lake and endless butter.


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Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       08-29-2012, 5:05 AM Reply   
Drysuit all the way!!!! If it's not cold enough for the drysuit then it's neo shorts and heater top.
Oh and I have the oneill boost. Great suit but does leak around the neck because its not a rubber seal. Also wear the jacket under the suit, works really well!
Old     (TheWakeGuy)      Join Date: Nov 2011       08-29-2012, 10:52 AM Reply   
I found the O'Neill Boost for $389 and the Assault for $339 on Activewake.com. http://www.activewake.com/neo/drysuits.html
I bought my Boost 2 years ago and It's definitely helped me extend my season an extra 3-4 months.
Old     (Reez)      Join Date: Mar 2010       08-29-2012, 11:33 AM Reply   
Drysuits are sweet. The only issue is if your taking pics or shootin vids they look kind of dumb
Old     (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       08-29-2012, 6:41 PM Reply   
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Drysuits are sweet. The only issue is if your taking pics or shootin vids they look kind of dumb
I totally agree.
Old     (jeff4)      Join Date: Jun 2011       08-29-2012, 7:57 PM Reply   
I just posted an Oneil Boost size medium in the classifieds if anyone is interested. I'm 5'8 and 165 and it fits me perfectly. $250 shipped. I've worn all the way up to an XL in the boost and not had any issues.
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       08-29-2012, 8:11 PM Reply   
Dry suit = u dry
Wetsuit = u wet
Simple
Old     (madcityskier)      Join Date: Jun 2012       08-30-2012, 9:44 PM Reply   
As a big guy, wetsuit all the way. My 20" neck doesn't like the drysuit seal. Feel like I can't breath. Throw on a good wetsuit and go when there's ice on the edge of the lake no problem, and my throat wont be sore for the next week.

Your results may vary.
Old     (wksk8r)      Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Roseville       09-05-2012, 8:25 AM Reply   
shags, if you're looking to get into a drysuit for less... There is one for sale here in ads. I have chicks on my boat all the time that wear mine, and it works. I'm a Large and even a 115 rider can be warm in it. I see a MED here for $200.... there's your suit!
Old     (brazosfreak05)      Join Date: May 2009       09-05-2012, 9:45 AM Reply   
Cant pee in a drysuit!!!!!!

That is the number one thing i tell people who want to use my drysuit. I think we have an XL drysuit and everyone in the boat (big/small) all share the drysuit. Its the BEST investment for winter riding!
Old     (cj1)      Join Date: Sep 2012       09-17-2012, 3:18 PM Reply   
Definitely a wetsuit. Try peeing in a drysuit and tell me how that works out for you.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       09-17-2012, 3:31 PM Reply   
DFTR youre officially out of your mind
Old     (SteveAZ)      Join Date: Aug 2012       09-17-2012, 8:49 PM Reply   
I personally hate the way a wetsuit feels, they're tough to get on and off, and it sucks to put a cold, wet...wetsuit back on when it's cold out...so I never use them. I'm part of the heater shirt to drysuit crowd. If it's not too cold but cold enough for a suit, I wear a long sleeve t-shirt and thin sweat pants under it. If it's pretty cold I wear a Mysteriouso (fleece) top and bottoms under it. Wearing shorts or a short sleeve shirt with a drysuit I get chaffing on the backs of my knees and elbows where the suit bunches up...not comfortable. However, I also "burp" the suit really well when I get in the water so I don't have any air trapped in the suit. If you don't when you crash your more likely to get water past the seals as air is expelled from the suit on impact. This creaets an almost vacuum packed feel but flexability is good.

As for the vest....if you blow a seal and don't have a vest on.....not a predicament I'd want to find myself in.

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