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Old     (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       06-07-2007, 6:27 PM Reply   

So by now everyone should be over the initial begrudgery that insude when RD came over here.

I've been watching RD's posts, and I'll be damned if he doesn't find some of the coolest shizzle for boats.

I would love to see these two combine their uber pimp knowledge on a project wake boat.

With that, I think I have the perfect boat in mind for them to pimp...

Dave's new Wakeworld Malibu!

Anyone else think this would be a good idea?
Old     (riverdave)      Join Date: May 2007       06-08-2007, 12:46 PM Reply   
Is Dave the owner of this site?

Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-08-2007, 12:52 PM Reply   
Yes, the one being referred to is the owner of this website.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       06-08-2007, 12:53 PM Reply   
can we name it Billet Thunder?
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-08-2007, 12:57 PM Reply   
Ya know I would like to find a nice Billet gas cap that I dont need that stupid tool to take the cas cap off with. Anyone have any ideas?
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-08-2007, 1:08 PM Reply   
Does this one work???? ll

ops, not billet thou..... :-(

(Message edited by dabell on June 08, 2007)
Old     (riverdave)      Join Date: May 2007       06-08-2007, 1:14 PM Reply   
Well if this actually comes together, I can talk to a few mfg's about "sponsoring" his boat, which would entail (most likely) OEM pricing on certain parts, or potentially (less likely) just giving them the parts for exposure into an untapped market (wakeboats as opposed to performance boats)

Old     (riverdave)      Join Date: May 2007       06-08-2007, 1:17 PM Reply   
"G" here ya go.. :-) FID=313678&CFTOKEN=70132714 D=313678&CFTOKEN=70132714

And of course Bezels.. ;) FID=313678&CFTOKEN=70132714


(Message edited by riverdave on June 08, 2007)
Old     (riverdave)      Join Date: May 2007       06-08-2007, 1:20 PM Reply   
Incidentally in the Hotboat world of things.. These would be considered "the best" for your application. ;) Nice looking, easy to use, no tool required. The center cap has a "flap" that is spring loaded and flips up so you can tighten and loosen the gas cap. olt

Old    bocephus            06-08-2007, 1:30 PM Reply   
Stay away from anodized products for boats. The color fades in direct sunlight! MB use to use anodized speaker cover grills on their boats but switched to powder coated grills.
Old     (riverdave)      Join Date: May 2007       06-08-2007, 2:28 PM Reply   
As stated in the other post.. Anno doesn't fade that quickly, except in red. Red only seems to last 2 or 3 seasons?

Old    bocephus            06-08-2007, 4:03 PM Reply   
I agree with you RD that when done correctly anodizing when done correctly lasts a long time, however there are very very few manufacturers that do it correctly. I haven't used any of Rexmar's stuff so I don't know about them. Every anodized component on the MB that I had faded in one season. The black parts turned purple the red to pink and the blue to light blue.
Old     (phatboypimp)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-08-2007, 4:20 PM Reply   
Just because I was are some details I found online. Pretty interesting once I read it 2-3 times.

First it’s good to understand that white light is made up of three primary colours – red, green and blue which correspond to the longest third, the middle third and the shortest wavelength third of the visible range of radiation that our eyes detect. It is this way because our eyes have three colour sensors, which separate these parts of the visible spectrum, and we get all of our colour sensations by various mixtures of sensing in these three areas. One of the most surprising results is that we see yellow when only our green and red sensors are stimulated. This means that yellow is the sensation we see when blue is absent from what would otherwise be white light. Similarly we sense cyan (a turquoise colour) when red is absent – i.e. only our green and blue sensors are stimulated, and magenta (a purplish hue) when green is absent – i.e. only our red and blue sensors are stimulated. I need to tell you this to explain how a lot of colours are formed in printing and in photography. Red, blue and green are called the “additive” primaries – simply because they add up to white light. Cyan, magenta and yellow (the “opposites” of red, green and blue) are called the subtractive primaries because each subtracts one of the additive primaries from white light.

In printing and in photography cyan, magenta and yellow dyes are most commonly used to form the image colours. This is better than using red, green and blue dyes because C, M & Y only absorb one third of white light, whereas R,G & B dyes each absorb two thirds. This makes twice as much use of light when viewing images.

Now, if you imagine a red image in a sign, which is made using cyan, magenta and yellow dyes, the red colour is formed by a mixture of yellow and magenta dyes. The white light falls onto the mixture and the yellow dye absorbs all the blue light. Similarly the magenta absorbs all the green light, and so the remaining light – red is the only light reflected back to your eye. If you see the red fading – i.e. your eye is seeing other colours coming back reflected from the image area that is supposed to be red this is because the yellow or the magenta or both are themselves fading and failing to fully absorb the blue and green light. Now it is usually the case in photography that the magenta and yellow dyes in colour prints fade faster than the cyan. You may have noticed that photographs faded in shop windows go cyan in colour – this is why. Remember cyan is the opposite of red – so the red is fading fastest, just as your observation stated. This is because the yellow and magenta dyes are more susceptible to oxidative fade induced when light reacts within the dye layer to produce oxygen radicals which tend to react with the dye and bleach it – destroy the part of the molecule which absorbs the light to give the dye its colour. Cyan dyes tend to bleach by a reductive process and are actually less stable in dark, hot conditions than are yellow and magenta.

BUT – this all depends on the particular dyes used, and also on how they are contained in the substrate, and on what protection from UV light may be coated on top. Another factor is the incorporation of “stabilisers” – things that preferentially react with oxygen radicals to prevent dye bleaching. Now some printing systems don’t use yellow, magenta and cyan – but use red, green and blue pigments. My guess is your observations relate to the YMC systems – they are most common – photography, inkjet and most colour printing use them (the latter two also use black) In the business they are called CMYK systems as opposed to RGB – look closely at your TV screen and look closely at an inkjet image or colour magazine with a magnifying glass to see the dots that make up the image and you will see the two systems. TV uses RGB because it give out light – it isn’t based on absorbing or subtraction from white light – it is a true additive system.

In the color industry, the term for how much colors fade in the
sunlight is "lightfastness". A color is lightfast or light stable if it
does not fade upon exposure to ultraviolet or visible light. There is a
standard scale which rates colors' lightfastness: I="excellent", II="very
good", III="fair", and IV="poor" (see http:// Color
comes in two physical forms: pigments and dyes. Dyes are like colored
salt that are organic molecules. Pigments come in two forms: inorganic
(metal oxides) and organic. Organic dyes and pigments contain chemical
bonds which can be broken and rearrange if a certain amount of energy is
added to them. The sun shines light of various types of energies,
including higher energy ultraviolet rays which are primarily responsible
for causing the chemical bonds in some colored molecules to break. This,
in turn, alters the shape of these molecules, destroying the parts of the
molecule that make it colored. So, as more and more molecules are reacting
with the sunlight, there are less and less still around that have not
reacted or de-colorized and the overall color seems to "fade" over time...

This might be a commercial for 303 protectant

(Message edited by phatboypimp on June 08, 2007)
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       06-08-2007, 4:30 PM Reply   
what color is least visible underwater?
Old    bocephus            06-08-2007, 4:38 PM Reply   

Old     (phatboypimp)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-08-2007, 4:42 PM Reply   
my bad
Old     (committed)      Join Date: Jul 2005       06-08-2007, 4:42 PM Reply   
I'm not sure, but I think I just got my Phd?
Old     (ndavis03)      Join Date: Jul 2006       06-08-2007, 4:51 PM Reply   
I think they should PIMP my boat.
Old     (riverdave)      Join Date: May 2007       06-08-2007, 5:42 PM Reply   
All the things I suggested so far are available for anyone to use. They are off the shelf items from the performance world, and anyone can buy them, and with minimal handyman skills put em in. :-)

Check em out Nick.. Get creative and Pimp your shizint.

Old     (ndavis03)      Join Date: Jul 2006       06-08-2007, 5:46 PM Reply   
I will be waiting for you to show up at my house like Xhibit.j/k
Old     (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       06-08-2007, 6:21 PM Reply   
Nacho, reds and oranges are least visible underwater because the diffusion of blue and green gives light from all directions in those shades and dulls the look of their complementary colors


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