House on a SICK private lake in SoCal for sale!!!!

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-23-2007, 8:53 PM

Here is the link:
http://bakersfield.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=Bakersfield&PRGNAME=MLSLogin& ARGUMENT=Uk%2FNmya09RxG%2FuRVmmJO3EydvgawK47OEnIB3 cD4q2E%3D&KeyRid=1

Many of you know about Paradise lakes. These homes are VERY hard to come by. It comes fully furnished, and even comes with a Malibu boat. Paradise is noted for having some of the best water in the state, and you get access to two lakes. One of which is 13' deep, and the wakes are just plain sick. I've ridden there many times and is one of the nicest places to ride.

Please contact either myself at brandon_poser@countrywide.com, or Larry Jones, who is the agent listing the home at larryj@cbbakersfield.com.

mendo247 08-23-2007, 9:16 PM

WOW! I cant believe that price... Seems REALLY reasonable for an acre on the water!

(tinytdubb) · (tinytdubb) **Join Date: Jul 2007** 08-23-2007, 9:37 PM

Nice. They really stick it to you on the home owners association fee...$525 a month ouch. Guess if you can afford a 600k house 525 doesn't much matter.

(westsiderippa) · (westsiderippa) **Join Date: Dec 2006** 08-23-2007, 9:44 PM

"Guess if you can afford a 600k house 525 doesn't much matter."

needle, you are so far from the truth bro. the truth is its in backersfield, you can have it. 600k is nothing for a house. my 2 bedroom in the santa cruz mountains was 650k and trust me when i bought it was a dump. 2 yrs later after gutting the whole house im finally lanscaping. and i dont make much more than your middle class joe. heck anything under 8-900k is a good deal up here on the central coast. choices, house and boat= top roman and hot dogs. but im happy.

(trojanman) · (trojanman) **Join Date: May 2002** 08-24-2007, 12:02 AM

Poser... no call dude... whats the deal..?

(helix_rider) · (helix_rider) **Join Date: Mar 2003** 08-24-2007, 4:50 AM

Man, I agree with Richard. Something is fishy about this deal...in my experience seeing something that is too good to be true is just that. I would assume that a property like that at that price would sell in 3 days flat...and have multiple offers. You can't get a 2200 sq. ft house on the lake here in TN (with a dock) for much under 600,000!

(wakereviews) · (wakereviews) **Join Date: Sep 2006** 08-24-2007, 5:05 AM

They are all over the place around here in IL/IA :-)

(roughrivermike)

Is this the community at Ski West where they have held the INT US Championships?

(erik_a) · (erik_a) **Join Date: May 2007** 08-24-2007, 5:45 AM

$525/month HOA fees. Ouch!

(ghostrider_2) · (ghostrider_2) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 08-24-2007, 5:50 AM

listings is $695,000.
wonder how anal the HOA people are?

(josh_wilkes) · (josh_wilkes) **Join Date: Aug 2007** 08-24-2007, 7:43 AM

thats actually really cheap for that. that house would be worth that here in south carolina on santee.

(sup208) · (sup208) **Join Date: May 2004** 08-24-2007, 8:04 AM

dude, it's in bakersfield. It's the middle of BFE, nothing there. Just dirt and some of the worst air pollution in the nation. However, this is California and people pay crazy amounts for homes. If that home were here in Sacramento on a lake, it would fetch over a million.

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-24-2007, 8:07 AM

Yeah, great deal, but it's in the middle of nowhere. You'd have to be independently wealthy to make money out there, or use it as a secondary residence.

BTW... Central Cal is still cheap. When you see the rediculous cali house prices it's either in the Bay Area or Southern Cal. Far northern Cali and Central are still pretty realistic if you don't take into account the relative lack of a booming economy in those areas.

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-24-2007, 8:08 AM

Josh, I thought you got blown away when you were in Hawaii!! When you going on your houseboat trip? Why don't you buy this place?

Mike--this isn't at Ski West. It's on the gated community that you drive by to get to Ski West. The homes that are on the lakes are big and beautiful. If you own an airplane, which many of the homeowners do, there is a landing strip in between the two lakes. Very nice.

Loren-- Nothing fishy about this deal. Good deals do come around, this just happens to be one of them.

Hell you could buy the house, and sell the boat, or trade it in on a wakeboard boat. And if you already have a boat, well you just made a few extra thousand.

(sup208) · (sup208) **Join Date: May 2004** 08-24-2007, 8:08 AM

Looks llike they are building several lakes.
Upload

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-24-2007, 8:11 AM

Evan, its a little remote, but that is the price to pay to be a part of the nicest private lakes in the state.

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-24-2007, 8:14 AM

Kelly, the dark colored lakes are Paradise. They are also one of the only lakes that allow a permanent residence on site.

(phantom5815) · (phantom5815) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-24-2007, 8:20 AM

You need to think where the water source is coming from.
Being that SoCal have been in s drought situation for aloooong time it will be interesting to see how well the lakes stay filled.
Arvin is a pit and the area more than likely was an old farming/oil area.
I know there has been a fight with LA county from Kern County about dumping sludge in areas near Lake Buena Vista and towards Hwy 99.
Being that there a lotta open space out there, you never know what going to happen and who's going to own it in the future.

(three6ty) · (three6ty) **Join Date: Feb 2004** 08-24-2007, 8:30 AM

Phantom,
The water is mostly coming from a well.

(phantom5815) · (phantom5815) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-24-2007, 8:45 AM

Having lived in Kern County for 7.5 years, that's the last thing I would trust my water coming from.

(rodltg2) · (rodltg2) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 08-24-2007, 9:15 AM

i've been out there a few times. not on paradise lakes but two of the other ones out there. yes the price is good, but realize that its not exaclty in bakersfield. its about 1/2 hour outside of bakersfield. so not only is it far out there, the closest town , bakersfield, is not very desirable. the lakes are well fed. that satelite pic is old, those three lakes that are empty were re dug two years a go. the last two nationals have been held there. i would never choose to live there, but if i had the $$ i wouldnt mind as a second home!

(stephan) · (stephan) **Join Date: Nov 2002** 08-24-2007, 9:21 AM

Brandon, dude you forgot to call me back & now I am sad.

That setup looks insane. Considering the condition of water in the rest of CA, eventually I will own a house out there or another private lake. There is nothing fishy about this deal, Brandon is a stand up guy & he would never screw his fellow WWers.

(ronnyboy27) · (ronnyboy27) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 08-24-2007, 9:28 AM

I wish I had an extra 600k laying around.

(nsolis220) · (nsolis220) **Join Date: May 2007** 08-24-2007, 9:28 AM

From a Licensed Ca Real Esate Broker and owner or Realty World. Be aware! Bakersfield is in one of the fastest depreciating places in the state. 600k is nothing for a vacation home on a lake in ca but the problem is its in the middle of no were and the values are dropping due to to one wanting to live in the country for 600k when you can live a lot closer to the majority of jobs closer to the cities.

(ttrigo) · (ttrigo) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 08-24-2007, 10:16 AM

this is a sick house, on a sick lake. If I had the chance to buy this, I would. I was out there for an INT event, and was drooling the whole time I was there. if I could swing this with my brother, I would partner with him on it for a second/weekend home.

(rio_sanger) · (rio_sanger) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 08-24-2007, 10:38 AM

Bakersfield, SoCal?? Did I miss something, when did they move it from the armpit of California?

(dstockton) · (dstockton) **Join Date: Jun 2006** 08-24-2007, 10:38 AM

These lakes are real nice especially being in so cal where it is hard to find good water.

Brandon I think me and Lindsey are going to Chuck's on Sunday. Will you be riding? If so we'll see you then.

(wake4fun) · (wake4fun) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 08-24-2007, 11:12 AM

Arvin just got noticed for having the worst air quality in California...it was in the local news.

(jhilltn) · (jhilltn) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 08-24-2007, 11:17 AM

brandon, can i go to chuck's on sunday, too?

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-24-2007, 11:24 AM

Who cares about the air?! It's all bad from south of Sac anyway.

Justin, you can go to Chuck's on Sunday as well. How the hell you been? Shoot me an email man.

(lizzyb) · (lizzyb) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 08-24-2007, 11:58 AM

Hey B! Great house - absolutely beautiful. Tell everyone hi - we miss you guys. :-)

(phantom5815) · (phantom5815) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-24-2007, 2:31 PM

Bakersfield has always been considered SoCal..... even by Kaiser Permenante dividing lines.

(hawkeye7708) · (hawkeye7708) **Join Date: Feb 2007** 08-24-2007, 2:32 PM

oh man.....

(three6ty) · (three6ty) **Join Date: Feb 2004** 08-24-2007, 2:39 PM

bad boy
what are you offering to the buyers agent

(three6ty) · (three6ty) **Join Date: Feb 2004** 08-24-2007, 2:41 PM

also what is the MLS #

(three6ty) · (three6ty) **Join Date: Feb 2004** 08-24-2007, 2:44 PM

nevermind. I found it

(entrustclothing)

525 a month HOA is retarded! i wonder how much property tax is?

(three6ty) · (three6ty) **Join Date: Feb 2004** 08-24-2007, 3:42 PM

1%

(rio_sanger) · (rio_sanger) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 08-24-2007, 3:43 PM

Not arguing Phantom, but from Wikipedia:
The most commonly used "physical" boundary between Southern California and the rest of the state is the Tehachapi Mountain range, located about 70 miles north of Los Angeles.
I'm a So Cal native, and 10 years older than dirt, and we've always considered the "Grapevine" as the border to the Central Valley. (cute puppy too!)

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-24-2007, 3:47 PM

Brandon, I hear ya.... I'd love to have it as a second house. Hell, I'd love to have the airplane to land on the private strip to go with it. I'm just trying to explain to the rest of the WakeWorld why it seems like such a bargain. People don't all realize that most of California is still remote countryside with little economy. Too many Pictures of LA and San Fran floating around. Living out there is pretty much reserved for those that are retired or looking for a second home.

Incidently... did I miss something. People keep throwing around $600k. It looks a lot more like $700k to me.

(monkey) · (monkey) **Join Date: Oct 2002** 08-24-2007, 3:59 PM

I hear they're selling because the next door neighbor likes to do power turns

(load) · (load) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 08-24-2007, 4:01 PM

Come on Evan that could be CIE/DRA headquarters!!

No Sheriffs to stop us there!!

(westsidarider) · (westsidarider) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 08-24-2007, 4:25 PM

nope no sherrifs but someone even worse. Joe Biafora. his daddy spent the money for him to build the place and hes a total hard core water skier from the 70s. short a$$ shorts. long curly black hair. dude the the most anal guy youll meet. and dont plan on running weight there. "the shores will get desttroyed by the big wakes." more like you didnt build the place right. besides that guy the place is super nice though. everyone that has a place there flys in on private planes. its a pretty richy place

(phantom5815) · (phantom5815) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-24-2007, 4:52 PM

Not arguing with ya either Chris, but I too am a SoCal native....San Diegan to be exact and I use to think Bako was Central CA, but it's not - it's SoCal.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source and you should know better.... Sir

Plus you're not that much older than me

I thought property tax was 1-2% ? courtesy of Prop 13

(Message edited by phantom5815 on August 24, 2007)

(rvh3) · (rvh3) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 08-24-2007, 5:14 PM

Since when do you round 695K to 600K?

(hbguy) · (hbguy) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 08-24-2007, 6:14 PM

The air there isn't just bad. Reportedly, it is the worst in the nation!!!

http://www.turnto23.com/news/13866290/detail.html

That said, before I bought my boat, I test drove, and rode behind, a boat out there. The houses all looked pretty good and the water was great. It would make a great second home to someone in LA. I made it from LA to there on a Saturday morning in a little over an hour, which I guess makes the place SoCal.

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-24-2007, 6:21 PM

E Double U-- You would have to contact the listing agent on the property to see what the buyers agent gets. His number is on the listing.

I can also set up financing if you or anyone else is interested.

Callen-- what up man? You gonna be at the Sanger shoot? I'm trying to make it up, but might only be able to make for one day.

Heavy-- Didn't mean to make you sad. Hit me up this weekend. Maybe we'll set something up for next weekend.

(denystaucd) · (denystaucd) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 08-24-2007, 8:35 PM

Just get a house in discovery bay and your set

(mishaplr) · (mishaplr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-25-2007, 12:32 AM

Ok, I will throw my two cents in now. I have been leasing a house on Paradise for two years now, and the house for sale is very nice and it is on the deeper of the two lakes next to some really cool people. Now, I won't tell you that everyone on the lake is super cool and loves wakeboarders, but if you respect them they don't hassle you. Jason Callen how are you? We are leasing from him and he has actually been super cool about things and has been the least anal about stuff. The skiers only hassle you if you get in there face. I understand it is pricey especially for Arvin, but the last two years has been awesome and the only public lake I have ridden on is Powell.

(westsidarider) · (westsidarider) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 08-26-2007, 8:30 PM

poser- thats cool man. i guess were only shootin wakeboarding on weds so u better show up that day. if you want you can crash at my place over night or whatever you like. i got an extra room furnished with a nice queen size bed. give me a holla

LJ- thats good to hear that joes finally mellowed out. i do miss riding there besides him. next time im down i promise ill get with you guys to ride

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-27-2007, 8:00 AM

UPDATE: Just wanted to let everyone know that the 695K is only the ASKING price. So it seems that there might be some room to wiggle. Larry Jones isn't the listing agent, he works in the same office as the listing agent and was asked to help out. Throw an offer on the table and see what happens!!

Callen--I was going to come up on Thursday night, and Friday. I can't make it up for Wednesday, as I have some appts already and can't change them. Keep me posted on how it goes.

(bughunter) · (bughunter) **Join Date: Nov 2001** 08-27-2007, 6:32 PM

Are these lakes wakeboard friendly ?
Some private lakes don't even allow ballast-boats...

(hbguy) · (hbguy) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 08-27-2007, 6:36 PM

Eddy, your son is going HUGE in that photo. Sick!!

(26lacefield) · (26lacefield) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 08-28-2007, 11:14 AM

i think about 90% of the lakes here in Cali allow ballast.

(spin2win) · (spin2win) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 08-28-2007, 12:47 PM

i am pretty sure they only allow stock ballast. Like Jason said it is a skier lake and they really dont like us wakeboarders all that much. They say our wakes damage the shoreline.

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-28-2007, 1:18 PM

I've had my boat on that lake a few different times, and I've always had it weighted. Maybe the right people weren't there, but no one said anything to me about the wake.

gotwake123 08-28-2007, 2:50 PM

INT nationals was there last year those lakes are amazing. in the middle of two there is and air strip in between them. they did the ronix demo there.

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-30-2007, 7:48 AM

bump

(deneng) · (deneng) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 09-03-2007, 8:04 AM

Why move out to Bakersfield? There is a deep water home in discovery bay right now for 640k. Probate home 1550 sq. feet.no pie shaped lot, and 25 dollars a year HOA. This home 1 yr ago would have been 730k. 25 minutes too fastwater though. No hydrohoist, but no issues on any work needed too be done on home. It is on realtor.com

(aces6692) · (aces6692) **Join Date: Nov 2006** 09-03-2007, 10:36 AM

my neighbor has a house on paradise, i went up for a weekend and rode some of the best water i have ever ridden, the only downside is that it is in the middle of no where, kinda boring, other then that the place is sick

(bbr) · (bbr) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 09-03-2007, 12:30 PM

Dennis that's cool, but this home comes furnished and with a boat, and a lift!

Ryan- it might be secluded, but if you own a home on a private ski lake, what else do you want to do there?

(aces6692) · (aces6692) **Join Date: Nov 2006** 09-03-2007, 4:32 PM

i just mean if you are waiting to ride, there not much to do, but i see your point

(sxjunky) · (sxjunky) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 09-04-2007, 9:48 AM

I think anyone on wakeworld who is even remotely interested in the property would probably want a solid answer on whether or not ballast is allowed and what the limits are. Not just what people have gotten away with or what was allowed during a comp.

(board2death) · (board2death) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 09-04-2007, 10:52 AM

So Cal is very expensive, but i'd be curious to see Comps for that particular lake. BTW , Paradise Lakes isn't quite Bakersfield. More like Arvin. And as for it being BFE and all dirt? Not really- more farm country than anything else. Paradise Lakes is a gorgeous place and while 525.00 is a lot for HOA dues look at what they have to care for and how few homes are located at Paradise. Probably a smokin' deal