http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/1/488033.html?1189426232 Beat you to the punch Billy. The Sub6 is out of the bag. Going to be pricey...but well worth it. Billy was it the Sub 6 or a different board. Because Hype has a few new boards for 08 and a couple were going to be real light. But the news is the Sub 6 is the lightest board. Check out the pics in the post and let me know if the Sub6 is the board you rode. I ordered the Murray 08 140 (grey top) and the white bindings. I am stoked about the product. if you get a chance to ride the Murray...let me know your thoughts. THX!