Which of these has the best wakesurfing wake?

(monkey) · (monkey) **Join Date: Oct 2002** 09-03-2007, 2:08 PM

Kind of an open ended question... Which of these boats can produce the best wakesurfing wake?

> Sanger V210

> Moomba Outback V (was called the Mobius LSV in '05??)

> Malibu V-Ride (same hull as the 2004 and older VLX??)

> Nautique Crossover SV-211

> Centurion, Storm Series, Cyclone C4

> Mastercraft X1, X2, or X7

> Tige 20V

(melanie) · (melanie) **Join Date: Apr 2001** 09-03-2007, 3:18 PM

> 247

(monkey) · (monkey) **Join Date: Oct 2002** 09-03-2007, 3:38 PM

too big for my riding spot.

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 09-03-2007, 7:05 PM

Look for something with high gunnels so you can load it up. Ya, a 247 is a little big, what’s your size limit?

I’m going to ride behind an X1 the first weekend in October. I rode behind it this spring but the boat wasn’t ballasted as much as it is now. I need a little more wake than when I rode behind it last time.

I’ve ridden behind an older Malibu I forget the model. The owner said it was then same hull as the original Wakesetter. The boat was a d-drive. Properly weighted the wake was pretty good.

I’m kind of a Centurion guy but I don’t have much experience with anything but my boat and an Avalanche. The Cyclone is supposed to be a scalled down Avalanche. The Avalanche surf wake is really amazing. The new 21’6” Lightning should be pretty good, but that might be over the limit.

(smedman) · (smedman) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 09-03-2007, 7:08 PM

Hey Tim,

I can't speak for the other boats, but I get a decent wake on the V-Ride. Not 247 big for sure, but fun. I'm not blasting huge airs like James, Chase, and Drew :-) , but getting the fins out of the water on occasion...
See the vid to check the wake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGOLYQb-JKU

(norris_laker) · (norris_laker) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-03-2007, 7:49 PM

Tim,

A friend of mine has a 21 ft VLX Wakesetter. He gets a good goofy wake but a weak port side wake. From what I've read on the net, you need about 2500 lbs of ballast to get a good port side wake. I have the X-1 (actually a 2005 X-2) that Ed was talking about. We probably run around 1300 lbs of ballast and get a very good port side wake. We surf anywhere between 9.5 to 13.5 miles per hour. The starboard side is a different story. We can only get a decent wake at 10.5 miles an hour. I love our 2005 X-2 but if I was a goofy rider, I wouldn't recommend the X-1 hull. A picture of our wake can be found at http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/470540.html?1185544672. I agree with Ed about the Avalanche. Great goofy and regular wake. The rear walk through also make a great storage area for your quiver of boards.

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 09-03-2007, 8:05 PM

Ya, that's Roy's boat.

Roy, I'm copying your videos from Nationals right now. I do think that both the Avalanche regular and goofy wakes are quite good. However as you can expect the Port wake looked a little better to my eye. After riding behind that Avalanche wake David says the Avy Starboard is much better than my boat, better even when I have 2,500 pounds of ballast.

Isn't the VLX is 21'6"?

(monkey) · (monkey) **Join Date: Oct 2002** 09-04-2007, 7:43 AM

Thanks for the input everyone.

21 foot is the limit at our lagoon. Anything longer and they won't let you ride.

I'll be buying something new this winter.

(tonyv420) · (tonyv420) **Join Date: Jul 2007** 09-04-2007, 1:55 PM

CENTURION C-4 BEATS ALL OUT THERE!

(tonyv420) · (tonyv420) **Join Date: Jul 2007** 09-04-2007, 1:56 PM

Sorry, the avalanche C-4, or the enzo throws the best wave hands down.

4sher 09-04-2007, 4:51 PM

Too bad you can't go to 21' 6" because the Enzo 216 throws a GREAT surf wake. The Inland Surfer crew rode behind one at the Lake Tulloch contest and we all liked it.

(clubmyke) · (clubmyke) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 09-04-2007, 5:24 PM

nautie 211 for goofy...

(wakeslife) · (wakeslife) **Join Date: Jul 2005** 09-04-2007, 6:13 PM

The X1 will throw a very nice port wake with not much weight over stock. I actually prefer it to a 07 VLX setup with similar weight.

(malibu) · (malibu) **Join Date: Sep 2004** 09-10-2007, 11:30 AM

I surf behind a Sanger V210. It doesn't take as much weight as the bigger boats to get a nice wave. We met a guy Labor Day weekend with a Calabria V drive that was really impressed with our wake.

(rwb) · (rwb) **Join Date: Aug 2005** 09-10-2007, 11:38 AM

I will say the V-Ride will give you the best of all worlds. Great wakeboarding wake and a good surfing wake.

(jpk) · (jpk) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 09-10-2007, 3:57 PM

My V-ride wake looks pretty similar to Smedman's video above. I find the wake is a lot taller and cleaner with the wedge down. Some folks say the wedge ruins a surf wake, but after many days trying to get the wake dialed in with just ballast and speed adjustments, I never got anything right until the wedge came down. The wake is similar on either side of the boat, not as finicky about sides as the MC X-1.

(rio_sanger) · (rio_sanger) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 09-10-2007, 6:05 PM

Our V-210 works great, and not much different from port to starboard.