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Join Date: Apr 2002
10-26-2008, 9:30 AM
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Haha...for all the VTX haters...for anyone who thinks that the VTX can't make a great wake, in 5 ft of water....come on out with us. You'll be taking your foot out of your mouth when the day is done. Mitch-It was great having you come up yesterday. Gonna have to do it again soon.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
10-26-2008, 9:38 AM
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I got some good shots from my cheapy little camara! I am definately down to come out brotha- such a blast!
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Join Date: Feb 2001
10-26-2008, 11:01 AM
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How was the boat weighted?
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Join Date: Apr 2002
10-26-2008, 11:54 AM
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Since we usually only have two peeps in the boat, we have the stock 4 tanks, plus about 1500 in lead throughout the boat, plus the power wedge. Its quite nice.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
10-26-2008, 4:01 PM
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Looks like a fun time.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
10-26-2008, 8:11 PM
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Absolute blast man! Its a killer setup!
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Join Date: Oct 2008
10-26-2008, 9:10 PM
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The prop doesn't hit even with that little of depth? I only ask because I have a private lake and there are also some low spots that I need to know how much of need taken care of.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
10-27-2008, 1:09 AM
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That's at '85 rope and 24.4mph in 4 feet of water!
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Join Date: Dec 2005
10-27-2008, 7:44 AM
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Nick , I run in shallower water than that at times. Mine doesnt' hit.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
10-27-2008, 12:04 PM
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There was no issue what so ever with the shallow depth when I was out with em.
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Join Date: Aug 2008
10-27-2008, 2:40 PM
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This may be a good forum to ask... How does the wake compare on the VTX vs. the V-Ride?}
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-27-2008, 4:31 PM
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4ft = 48" VTX draft = 22" (i assumed the draft is just the hull, not hull and prop) ~14" prop +2" to clear hull = 16" ~inches you're sitting lower in the water due to ballast and people = 3" Total = 22" + 16" + 3" = 41" That means with a 20ft. boat the angle you're taking off at could be no more than 3/4*.... I donno if the whole lake is that shallow or you have the most amazingly slow and mild takeoff in wakeboat history
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Join Date: Oct 2005
10-27-2008, 4:57 PM
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Nick - don't assume
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-27-2008, 5:02 PM
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okay then 12* on takeoff, still not much
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Join Date: May 2004
10-27-2008, 5:35 PM
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I believe it is 22" to the lowest blade of the prop.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-27-2008, 5:43 PM
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so 48" - 22" - 3" (weight) = 23" 23" = 1.91' of extra When the boat takes off it is on an angle sinking the rear, raising the front so... 10 ft = half the 20ft boat that will go down into the water when you try to get onto plane 10ft(sin(angle)) = 1.91 <-- will just touch bottom angle = 11* ---not much
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Join Date: Oct 2002
10-27-2008, 7:41 PM
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Nick--not sure what the intentions of your posts are, but here are the details. 260lbs in the bow 300lbs in the walkway 300lbs on each side of the engine 300-400 under the rear seats power wedge adjusted to individual rider 1250 lbs factory ballast acme 1237 prop--take a bit but gets up better that the acme 1235 the depth of the lake is 4' to 4.5' feet constant--we walked the lake with tools and lumber while building sliders and the water never got above my chest--I'm 5'10" I'm sure the prop is close to the bottom as it does churn up some silt at times when taking off. We have never had a problem with my VTX, my '05 VLX, Brandon's Supra 21V, a Sanger 210, 2 Nautiques and an'08 X-Star We did hit a catfish once while idling back to the dock!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-27-2008, 7:50 PM
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I just didn't think that depth, with that weight would not chunk I have been lakes where it drops to 4/5 ft. and even on plane it turns stuff up, I cant imagine starting up in that shallow
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Join Date: Oct 2007
10-28-2008, 12:33 PM
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We run in 4 or 5 feet quite often and have no issues with dragging bottom. Yes we will turn up a lot of crap on the bottom, but have never bottomed out......yet.
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Join Date: May 2004
10-28-2008, 12:44 PM
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I've been on plane ( going about 30) with my boat ( 07 22SV) with the depth gauge reading 2.8. I do it at a minimum twice a week, for about a 200 yard stretch. I ride in a river than avg's about 5 feet deep.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-28-2008, 1:48 PM
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That would scare me so bad in that shallow, on plane in one thing but starting up/ slow speeds oh boy. Just coasting into our beach at home I know I've hit bottom with the prob and where the back of the boat sits is like 3/4 ft I just had a hard time believing that it would get up without destroying props like crazy.... I guess I know better now.
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Join Date: Jul 2002
10-29-2008, 10:27 AM
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We ran our loaded X-star in a private lake last year that couldn't have been more than 3' deep. We could stand waist deep in the water. The prop churned up mud on take off and turn around at the end, but it wasn't that big off a deal. The ground on most private lakes is very soft mud. No rocks or tree stumps. Worst case, your prop gets a nice polish. Incidently, our star made a pretty decent wake in the shallow water, too. Looks like fun guys. I wish I was out riding. It's getting to be that time of year when riding time is getting scarce. Too dark at night, these days.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
10-29-2008, 12:18 PM
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Sure you could hit something with the prop, but what bothers me is that if you're able to stand in the lake with water at your waist, think what could happen if you catch a nasty edge and get whipped underwater... I say this cause last year I managed to bang my head pretty good on the bottom in a shallow part. From now on, no charging the wake for high-risk tricks if I can see the bottom.
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Join Date: Nov 2002
10-29-2008, 2:43 PM
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Last time I rode at the lake we walked across it pushing an inner tube with a ladder on it. It was weird to see how shallow it is where the ski boats go (in the center buoys) and how it is like 1.5 feet deeper where Chuck's boat run its line. I'd say at the deepest spot where he runs it get close to 4.5-5 foot of water. Roddyrod, you just can't be doing any lawn dart style bails.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
10-29-2008, 3:11 PM
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Tuck and roll homie
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Join Date: Jul 2005
10-29-2008, 5:46 PM
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don't be thinking I choose to take crashes like that
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Join Date: Oct 2005
10-30-2008, 4:05 PM
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Nick. Your math got jacked when you assumed the whole 22"s of draft was in the water. Pretty sure the draft is the total height of the boat from the bottom of the hull to the top at the rear. Could be wrong on this but that's what I always thought it meant.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-30-2008, 4:19 PM
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from Wiki "The draft (or draught) of a ship's hull is the vertical distance between the waterline and the bottom of the hull (keel), "
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