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Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-14-2018, 8:47 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
Does Trump's lawyer paying Stormy Daniels $130K "with his own money" tick anybody else's BS meter?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...l-cohen-407913
Oh yeah it's common practice in the law community to drop $100 grand of your personal money to protect a client. Who do they think will actually believe that it isn't Trumps hush money?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-14-2018, 9:19 AM Reply   
Grant, Mark, and the Oregon Moron for starters!
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-14-2018, 11:04 AM Reply   
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Grant, Mark, and the Oregon Moron for starters!
Good point,
Grant, Mark and Oregon moron, do you actually believe that Trump's lawyer spent $130 grand of his own money to buy off the silence of the porn star that Trump slept with when his third (or fourth, I forget) wife just had a kid? or is he lying?
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-14-2018, 11:16 AM Reply   
who cares if Trump paid the woman, or if he slept with 1000 women. democrats have the weakest leg to stand on anyway.....when it comes to infidelity

and lying under oath
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       02-14-2018, 11:27 AM Reply   
This obsession with Trumps sex life cannot be healthy. However it's an excellent example of the lefts moral narcissism & faux outrage.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-14-2018, 11:51 AM Reply   
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who cares if Trump paid the woman, or if he slept with 1000 women. democrats have the weakest leg to stand on anyway.....when it comes to infidelity

and lying under oath
It's wrong when democrats lie about it, its wrong when republicans lie about it. I don't see why anyone is so comfortable when your leaders obviously lie to you, even if they are on your "team"
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2018, 11:52 AM Reply   
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who cares if Trump paid the woman, or if he slept with 1000 women. democrats have the weakest leg to stand on anyway.....when it comes to infidelity

and lying under oath
Is that the direction you want to head tho? If it's all "well you did it first," what distinguishes one from the other?

Also, lets leave infidelity out of it. Trump was a very public adulterer and I do believe that the American people got "over" that issue when they elected him (Access Hollywood being far far far more damning in that regard than a mere consensual tryst with a porn star). America is over dirty grandpa. We know who he is.

But that gets back to who paid her the hush money and how. It's quite possible that the payment itself was illegal, not because of WHY they wanted to keep her quiet, but because of the money flow. Is there anything more flagrant than rich people making undisclosed campaign contributions to rig elections?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-14-2018, 11:54 AM Reply   
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This obsession with Trumps sex life cannot be healthy. However it's an excellent example of the lefts moral narcissism & faux outrage.
More an obsession with the truth which Trump seems to struggle with
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2018, 11:55 AM Reply   
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This obsession with Trumps sex life cannot be healthy. However it's an excellent example of the lefts moral narcissism & faux outrage.
Agree. This one is more about breaking federal election law (or Cohen putting his license to practice law on the line by violating the professional code of conduct) than the underlying content of her story. Doesn't really matter if she was gonna say he likes teddy bears or is fixated with unicorns.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-14-2018, 11:59 AM Reply   
I prefer that they ALL tell the truth. That isn't going to happen.

I'm also certain that they have all paid hush money in some form or fashion to someone.

Time to either kick them all out, or get over it

I'm one of those that believe the Clintons are the most corrupt of them all. They are just really really good at it

Time to start passing some bi-partisan laws and get over the namby pamby BS
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2018, 12:16 PM Reply   
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Time to start passing some bi-partisan laws and get over the namby pamby BS
I think this is one of those instances where we already have laws. Enforce the laws on the books and all that.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-14-2018, 12:20 PM Reply   
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who cares if Trump paid the woman, or if he slept with 1000 women. democrats have the weakest leg to stand on anyway.....when it comes to infidelity

and lying under oath
So you agree that he is lying?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-14-2018, 12:26 PM Reply   
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I prefer that they ALL tell the truth. That isn't going to happen.

I'm also certain that they have all paid hush money in some form or fashion to someone.

Time to either kick them all out, or get over it

I'm one of those that believe the Clintons are the most corrupt of them all. They are just really really good at it

Time to start passing some bi-partisan laws and get over the namby pamby BS
100% agree with everything above. Having said that giving Trump a pass doesn't align with anything you just said
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-14-2018, 1:11 PM Reply   
everyone else seemed to get a pass. Bill got a huge pass....lying under oath. Why start now. It's just because he's unpopular?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-14-2018, 1:24 PM Reply   
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everyone else seemed to get a pass. Bill got a huge pass....lying under oath. Why start now. It's just because he's unpopular?
The answer isn't a shrug and give everyone a pass. Hold them all to a higher standard, make sure your voice and vote reflect your own moral standards.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2018, 1:26 PM Reply   
"The Clintons" are not the POTUS. Why the fixation of the right (not ^^^You personally) on has beens? The Dude at the top is compromised by the Russians, is enriching himself personally thru the office and lies virtually daily to the American public. His administration is a revolving door for ethics problems, erroneous info, lack of security clearances and more top officials that have been fired, forced to quit, or left because of the idiot at the helm. All while he says its running like a fine swiss watch. THAT is a problem. Thee most dysfunctional (and perhaps dirty) administration in modern history.
But hey lets talk about the Clintons. sheesh.
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       02-14-2018, 1:50 PM Reply   
Lets talk about the Clinton's. Have they went away? Nope. Is Bill out campaigning & still supported by most on the left? Yep. Do they have Russian connections & possibly compromised by the Russians? Yep. Is the left still covering for Hillary & hiding her crimes? Yep.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2018, 2:15 PM Reply   
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Lets talk about the Clinton's. Have they went away? Nope. Is Bill out campaigning & still supported by most on the left? Yep. Do they have Russian connections & possibly compromised by the Russians? Yep. Is the left still covering for Hillary & hiding her crimes? Yep.
Actually, no, nobody wants WJC to campaign for them during the midterms. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...07280?lo=ap_e1
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       02-14-2018, 2:18 PM Reply   
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Actually, no, nobody wants WJC to campaign for them during the midterms. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...07280?lo=ap_e1
Never said they wanted him. They're Clinton's, they're out there whether they're wanted or not.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2018, 2:20 PM Reply   
Have they went away? who cares.
Is Bill campaigning? Not for anyone named Clinton, thank god. BTW, Trump campaigned for a child molester, and convicted felon and subsequently trump pardoned Joe Arpaio. So whats worse?
Do they have Russian connections? You and Sean Hannity must have the same "evidence" on Clintons re russia? Im All ears. Do tell.
Im not a Clinton supporter...if i ever see either again it will be too soon...guarantee you neither will ever run for office again. So who the F cares? Bill Clinton is a dem, and you are surprised or think its illogical, dirty,
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still supported by most on the left
he has support from the left? seems kinda normal. You spend your time, resources and intellect chasing the Clintons. Really you could send them on a slow boat to Gitmo for all i care.... to me its a waste.

Yet you have your head in the sand regarding the guy CURRENTLY sitting in the white house with ALL the power and his russian involvement. Now that is illogical.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       02-14-2018, 2:23 PM Reply   
They are grasping at straws to justify putting their head in the sand.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-14-2018, 2:24 PM Reply   
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Never said they wanted him. They're Clinton's, they're out there whether they're wanted or not.
really? Can you please share evidence of them actively campaigning for someone against the candidate's wishes? Not saying it's not true, but seems highly unlikely.

That said I don't really keep up on their doings these days.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-14-2018, 5:02 PM Reply   
^^^No one does other than Fox and Hannity, then he regurgitates it to his minions adnauseam. So we hear it here.
I forgot, exactly what year did Clinton leave office....2001. 17 fing years ago. and he is still the big threat to Fozannity.
Meanwhile Russians continue to attack our democratic process. Trump still disputes 17 Nat'l security agencies....and I want a Clinton INVESTIGATION!!!!
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-14-2018, 6:49 PM Reply   
Darrell, the first half of your argument could apply to any of them. That's my point. Russia can't sway an election even as much as our media can.We ought to Drop it.

Tighten up our cyber security and move on

Trump profits from russian ties....they all leave office much wealthier

get over it

trump is a bozo. Okay !! so he's a bozo....vote him out. He's who the process elected, live with it

That's all I'm saying. I'm not supporting anyone or investigating anyone. The Clinton comment was, if he was caught red handed lying to Congress under oath, and nothing happened.....nothing is ever going to happen to any of them

move on, start governing
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-14-2018, 7:34 PM Reply   
Uh yeah something happened - he was impeached - DUH.

Cliff if you're not concerned about the security issues among senior white house staff handling the most sensitive data there is - not to mention how many of these senior people have been fired or left in less than a year - then something is wrong with you. Forget R or D.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-14-2018, 7:42 PM Reply   
I'm actually concerned about all of it. That doesn't change the fact that nothing ever happens. Impeachment meant nothing. He stayed in office, no jail time......etc
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-14-2018, 11:42 PM Reply   
25c per gallon tax to fund infrastructure. Strangely I think this is a great idea from Trump. Probably means all his supporters will hate it!
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-14-2018, 11:46 PM Reply   
I do too but I make a lot of money, work from home, hardly drive, have solar and am getting an electric car lol. Unfortunately gas tax hits the working class disproportionately hard...
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-15-2018, 12:12 AM Reply   
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Unfortunately gas tax hits the working class disproportionately hard...
To a degree yes but it is user pays so people who use the infrastructure pay for its repair which I like, also it encourages people to use less gas which I also like.

Tesla model 3 gets released here Jan next year, if they get the wrinkles ironed out ill have one in the garage...
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-15-2018, 7:47 AM Reply   
I drive a new ZL1 and a big heavy '59 chevy Apache pickup, I drive a lot.
I would gladly pay the tax, if I knew that it was going to be used for what it was intended.
I feel that way with all tax and charities.

I'm not sure that it works that way anymore
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-15-2018, 9:06 AM Reply   
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I drive a new ZL1 and a big heavy '59 chevy Apache pickup, I drive a lot.
I would gladly pay the tax, if I knew that it was going to be used for what it was intended.
I feel that way with all tax and charities.

I'm not sure that it works that way anymore
It doesn't really matter how you feel about how it works, how about doing a little research and see how it does work? Federal gas tax gets spent on federal highway and mass transit projects and that's it. That's how it works, whether you feel it does or not.

Increasing the gas tax is a great idea IMHO. Yes, it's regressive. Adjusting the EITC upward to compensate should alleviate most of that pain. No tax is ever perfect and there are always winners and losers. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make a broken tax better.

If we increase it, we should also have the rate float against the CPI, so it goes up on a per gallon basis with inflation.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-15-2018, 9:31 AM Reply   
I wasn't trying to say that that isn't how it works. What I am saying is that ur government has a history of borrowing against intentions (social security). I'm in favor of the idea until they decide to borrow against, or redirect
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-15-2018, 10:04 AM Reply   
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I wasn't trying to say that that isn't how it works. What I am saying is that ur government has a history of borrowing against intentions (social security). I'm in favor of the idea until they decide to borrow against, or redirect
I understand. I wasn't trying to be a D1ck but it probably came off that way. In this particular case, this tax is earmarked in a segregated account for specific uses. It's not a general revenue kind of tax.

(but you could've found that with about 3 seconds of googling)
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-15-2018, 10:26 AM Reply   
thanks
I will try to do my research before posting, but I do appreciate riding the coat tails of yall that are more diligent
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-15-2018, 10:41 AM Reply   
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thanks
I will try to do my research before posting, but I do appreciate riding the coat tails of yall that are more diligent
Haha me too!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-15-2018, 11:12 AM Reply   
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acid into waterways humm let me think about this ? Of corse not . They should be dumping into surface holding ponds that are made for tubers & jet ski use only.
lol!!!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-15-2018, 11:48 AM Reply   
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Grant, Mark, and the Oregon Moron for starters!
Aw blow it out your democrat icon.

We all know what's going on. It's right out of the Slick Willie handbook. Move along now.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-15-2018, 1:12 PM Reply   
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Oh yeah it's common practice in the law community to drop $100 grand of your personal money to protect a client. Who do they think will actually believe that it isn't Trumps hush money?
Not sure if you have a huge grasp about how civil litigation works , but 130k is simply “gtfoh “ money.. By the time her atty takes a cut and she gets what’s left over it’s basically chump change . If she actually had dirt or Trump and his atty’s were worried and thought it was a legit suit with legit complications they would have paid her a lot more . The amount they paid would basically cover trial and atty costs at most should they have moved forward and fought it. That small amount to settle in a pocketbook as big as his is simply just go away money. Happens daily to executives and big corporations as well well as government employees. The amount to simply settle a case and make it go away versus dragging out a trial, even when you’re completely innocent , is worth paying the upfront money . Simple as that
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-15-2018, 1:19 PM Reply   
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It doesn't really matter how you feel about how it works, how about doing a little research and see how it does work? Federal gas tax gets spent on federal highway and mass transit projects and that's it. That's how it works, whether you feel it does or not.

Increasing the gas tax is a great idea IMHO. Yes, it's regressive. Adjusting the EITC upward to compensate should alleviate most of that pain. No tax is ever perfect and there are always winners and losers. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make a broken tax better.

If we increase it, we should also have the rate float against the CPI, so it goes up on a per gallon basis with inflation.
Government earmarks whether at the state or federal level consistently are robbed from Peter to pay Paul . It’s been that way for decades. Borrowed against each other’s shortfalls on income for projects . Same thing happens to our “toll “ money here in Illinois . It was originally founded for infrastructure, we are lucky to see even 50% of that funded for or roads . It gets shuffled around from pet project to pet project, or even worse allowed to be “invested” by connected crooked money thieves.

My biggest issue is using tax predictions and making a budget of predicted incomes when predicted incomes have a history of being overinflated . You’re budget should be designed off what you actually took in the previous year not the predictions . One can dream can’t he .
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-15-2018, 2:44 PM Reply   
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Not sure if you have a huge grasp about how civil litigation works , but 130k is simply “gtfoh “ money.. By the time her atty takes a cut and she gets what’s left over it’s basically chump change . If she actually had dirt or Trump and his atty’s were worried and thought it was a legit suit with legit complications they would have paid her a lot more . The amount they paid would basically cover trial and atty costs at most should they have moved forward and fought it. That small amount to settle in a pocketbook as big as his is simply just go away money. Happens daily to executives and big corporations as well well as government employees. The amount to simply settle a case and make it go away versus dragging out a trial, even when you’re completely innocent , is worth paying the upfront money . Simple as that
Xstar, you are completely missing whats happened. No civil litigation. They wrote the check to her, not an atty. There was potentially campaign finance legal issues regarding where the $$ came from. There was never a lawsuit or threat of lawsuit. They did not want her to open her mouth during the campaign and say she was banging around with the cheeto. Not a settlement, hush money. There isn't a "completely innocent" party, one thrice married guy running for POTUS cheating on his ex model wife with a skank porn chick. They didn't want anyone to find out. that's all folks.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-15-2018, 3:31 PM Reply   
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Not sure if you have a huge grasp about how civil litigation works , but 130k is simply “gtfoh “ money.. By the time her atty takes a cut and she gets what’s left over it’s basically chump change . If she actually had dirt or Trump and his atty’s were worried and thought it was a legit suit with legit complications they would have paid her a lot more . The amount they paid would basically cover trial and atty costs at most should they have moved forward and fought it. That small amount to settle in a pocketbook as big as his is simply just go away money. Happens daily to executives and big corporations as well well as government employees. The amount to simply settle a case and make it go away versus dragging out a trial, even when you’re completely innocent , is worth paying the upfront money . Simple as that
It's not the AMOUNT of the payment that's fishy. It's WHO paid it. Trump's lawyer is saying he paid it out of his own pocket. Not from his client trust account where he was holding Trump's hush money for Trump in the name of the law firm. Rather, from the individual lawyer's own pocket. THAT is the story here, not that Trump paid someone to stay quiet, or that said person's number was $130K.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-15-2018, 4:52 PM Reply   
What I take a lot of joy from is now the genius lawyer has talked about the settlement it breeches the terms and she can now spill the beans unencumbered! Lol, only the best people.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-16-2018, 5:03 PM Reply   
Its mounting. Now Gates, Manaforts deputy is flipping. Everyday its something with this dysfunctional WH. Remember trump "I will take care of the vets"....well not the guy he put in charge of the VA. OOPs, maybe he should have paid for his own damn vacation instead of charging the Vets for his European Family Vacation. Bet 'Wimbledon was nice. Another Gone. ONLY THE BEST. Damn must be getting tired of winning by now.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/v...ngs/ar-BBJdRv4
I'd bet $100 bucks there will be another departure from Trumps magical mystery tour before Friday next week. Guarantee, stone cold lock.
Really, does anyone else believe that Mueller at this time, already have enough evidence to send him away for 20?, 30? years, life?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-16-2018, 5:14 PM Reply   
The VA secretary was an obama-era holdover, and was confirmed unanimously by the senate, FYI.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-16-2018, 5:37 PM Reply   
Yes, very true on all counts. When he decided to take a 1st Class vacation on the gov't dime he was in the Trump Cabinet. I cant fault Obama for that.
What about Mueller, think he has enough on trump yet?
I read I think yesterday approx. 130 on the trump staff do not have security clearances. This includes Kushner And Ivanka, AND Don McGahn the WH atty, Sara Huck Sanders..... WTF? This is not "normal".
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...ity_clearances
Old     (racer808)      Join Date: Jan 2013       02-16-2018, 5:58 PM Reply   
What if they broke the agreement intentionally but quietly Stormy's meat curtains (if you've seen her vids) were paid more to go public but make him sound like a gentlemen? Or is she in a bidding war with demonrats to see who's gonna pay the highest for her next acting gig. I'm just asking questions here.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-16-2018, 6:58 PM Reply   
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What if they broke the agreement intentionally but quietly Stormy's meat curtains (if you've seen her vids) were paid more to go public but make him sound like a gentlemen?
Probably yes. Only the Trump campaign could think banging a hooker makes trump seem like more of a gentleman.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-17-2018, 10:45 AM Reply   
More examples of being a gentleman! I'm starting to come around, who knew trump was such a romantic

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/374...mpression=true
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-17-2018, 4:21 PM Reply   
Oh where am I? At a hospital to celebrate a school shooting. Great! Thumbs up!
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Old     (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       02-17-2018, 7:30 PM Reply   
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Oh where am I? At a hospital to celebrate a school shooting. Great! Thumbs up!
A picture where 5 people are posing with smiles on their faces. You choose to promote your agenda by attacking one of them with a thumbs up. He could be be giving a thumbs up for one of the victims that's recovering. I'm sure you have never smiled in a hospital with people dying around you. I'm also sure you haven't smiled at a funeral of a loved one when and old friend you haven't seen for awhile shows up. Let the first person without sin cast the first stone.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-17-2018, 7:55 PM Reply   
Ralph: for a guy that lives in New Zeland you seem obsessed kind of like the Gay US figure skater with Trump.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-18-2018, 12:42 AM Reply   
Arrrg. This is truly repulsive.
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-18-2018, 12:43 AM Reply   
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Ralph: for a guy that lives in New Zeland you seem obsessed kind of like the Gay US figure skater with Trump.
Your right I need to stop, it's killing my faith in human nature
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-18-2018, 12:57 AM Reply   
Vile and disgusting tweet - right up trump’s alley.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-18-2018, 8:41 AM Reply   
Wow you guys are “figure skaters” with your fake outrage, Vie and disgusting are words I save for Pelosi & Warren.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-18-2018, 12:18 PM Reply   
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Ralph: for a guy that lives in New Zeland you seem obsessed kind of like the Gay US figure skater with Trump.
If anyone is obsessed with Trump it you Grant. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics you have to go through to still be on his side.

What do you believe in? Republicans used to be for small government and watching the dept. They are spending more and taking in less so the debt will skyrocket while the government gets bigger.
What else are the Republican talking points? Moral Majority- That's out the window. Anti-corruption? Nope. Empty the swamp- Definately not. So what is left of the republican platform other than "that's my team and I want them to win."?
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-18-2018, 1:07 PM Reply   
I’m not as much on trumps side as I am against the democrat libral side. If anything trump is roach spray for “DemondRats” can’t say I like roach spray but I like what it does.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-18-2018, 3:06 PM Reply   
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I’m not as much on trumps side as I am against the democrat libral side. If anything trump is roach spray for “DemondRats” can’t say I like roach spray but I like what it does.
I 100% get that attitude, the Democrat/SJW, rights for everyone ethos is so toxic that push back is coming from most centrist people. Its just a shame there isn't an option different to Trumps Republican party. You guys are so jammed up, the system isn't giving you any good options.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-18-2018, 6:01 PM Reply   
The identification of ticks is the first step in the prevention and eradication of tick borne diseases.

Learn to identify various ticks - Some can be worse than others.


WARNING: Luna-Ticks can be found almost anywhere, but they are more numerous in California and in the Capital Building, which is located on the edge of the Washington DC Swamp.
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-20-2018, 6:37 PM Reply   
Only the best people!
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/man...oKyWAN.twitter
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-21-2018, 12:39 PM Reply   
surprising no-one on this forum:
Trump Supporters And Extreme Right Share More Fake News Than All Other Audiences Combined, Oxford Study Shows

https://www.inquisitr.com/4795058/trump-supporters-and-extreme-right-share-more-fake-news-than-all-other-audiences-combined-oxford-study-shows/
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-21-2018, 12:40 PM Reply   
Grant sure does his part :-)
Old     (prowake)      Join Date: Jul 2016       02-21-2018, 1:09 PM Reply   
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surprising no-one on this forum:
Trump Supporters And Extreme Right Share More Fake News Than All Other Audiences Combined, Oxford Study Shows

https://www.inquisitr.com/4795058/trump-supporters-and-extreme-right-share-more-fake-news-than-all-other-audiences-combined-oxford-study-shows/
didn't realize Oxford was the true and absolute decider of all information validity
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-21-2018, 1:22 PM Reply   
Did you even read it? It clearly explained their ground rules and how they did the study.

oh, and the conclusion...
Conclusion
In conclusion, the distribution of fake news is, according to this Oxford study, not evenly spread across the political spectrum, quite the opposite. On Twitter, Trump supporters share more fake news than all the other groups put together. When it comes to Facebook, however, the extreme right (the “Hard Conservative” group) shares and circulates more fake news than all the other Facebook audiences put together
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Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-21-2018, 1:24 PM Reply   
Did he read it... LOL. Good one Darrel :-)
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-21-2018, 1:26 PM Reply   
Rewind 15 years ago and this was true then too. It was just chain emails with all kinds of bogus “facts.” I’ve never received a “libral” chain email even thou I probably am one, but have received countless conservative ones. For good or bad that stupid stuff has migrated out of my inbox and onto Facebook.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-21-2018, 1:30 PM Reply   
I still get them from my great uncle and the neighbor I'm on the board with. Both on aol accounts.
Old     (prowake)      Join Date: Jul 2016       02-21-2018, 1:30 PM Reply   
you still don't get it.

their interpretation of "fake news" is exactly that. their interpretation.

both sides are well known to hate each others interpretation of the truth. Manmade climate change vs natural. Racial IQ/Crime disparities vs everyone is equal. Libs and Oxford still think Trump colluded with Russia...

to properly write an article comparing fake news sharing would have to mean you are the all knowing messiah of truth and fact which is just not possible

Last edited by prowake; 02-21-2018 at 1:33 PM.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-21-2018, 1:31 PM Reply   
Oh we get it, ProwaKKKe. You make it clear with every post.
Old     (prowake)      Join Date: Jul 2016       02-21-2018, 1:36 PM Reply   
well if you get it then you sure do a good job of being sarcastically retarded

but then again, thats what libs are known for already isn't it?

Last edited by prowake; 02-21-2018 at 1:42 PM.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-21-2018, 1:47 PM Reply   
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you still don't get it.

their interpretation of "fake news" is exactly that. their interpretation.
Here lies this countries biggest issue. We have decided that FACTS are just interpretations. No they are not something is True or not.


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you still don't get it.
both sides are well known to hate each others interpretation of the truth. Manmade climate change vs natural. Racial IQ/Crime disparities vs everyone is equal. Libs and Oxford still think Trump colluded with Russia...
Man made climate change is not an opinion or interpretation it is scientifically observable fact. 30+ years of data shows the correlation vs. "my uncle/priest/buddy doesn't agree"

Not all people opinions should hold the same amount of weight, there are experts in different areas and the experts opinion counts.


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to properly write an article comparing fake news sharing would have to mean you are the all knowing messiah of truth and fact which is just not possible
No you just need to reference the experts and determine truth from fiction.

For example Hillary didn't have 12 people in her inner circle killed. She did cheat at some of the debates. Because one is factual doesn't mean the other is.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-21-2018, 2:08 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by plhorn View Post
Man made climate change is not an opinion or interpretation it is scientifically observable fact. 30+ years of data shows the correlation vs. "my uncle/priest/buddy doesn't agree"
Don't know if that is 100% true. Climate change is an observable fact, the extent to which it is man made is still undecided. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for looking after the planet better regardless. purely in terms of pollution and conservation of limited resources the human race is abusing the planet, in the end, we will be the ones the will pay, the Planet will be fine 1,000 years after we have gone.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-21-2018, 2:10 PM Reply   
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Don't know if that is 100% true. Climate change is an observable fact, the extent to which it is man made is still undecided. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for looking after the planet better regardless. purely in terms of pollution and conservation of limited resources the human race is abusing the planet, in the end, we will be the ones the will pay, the Planet will be fine 1,000 years after we have gone.
I do think its funny when we say that we are killing the planet. The planet will shake us off like a virus.
Old     (prowake)      Join Date: Jul 2016       02-21-2018, 6:09 PM Reply   
this was a perfect example. you believe man made climate change is fact. I believe its up to debate. My buddies CALIFORNIA professor, Dr Karlstrom, believes its bs: http://naturalclimatechange.us

and when the Russia collusion comes out to be a complete farce manifested from the DNC, won't you think that will sway the numbers?

Seems to me that is the biggest piece of fake news in history, with countless articles, threads, shares

the planet cannot shake us off like a virus. come back from your fantasy land
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       02-22-2018, 6:32 AM Reply   
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this was a perfect example. you believe man made climate change is fact. I believe its up to debate. My buddies CALIFORNIA professor, Dr Karlstrom, believes its bs: http://naturalclimatechange.us
Funny you would use a source that claims it's fact that man made climate change is a fraud and then claim it's up for debate. Seems like your friend's professor has discredited himself right in the first paragraph with his religious uncertainty, which is what you object to, right? Ironic eh?
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-22-2018, 6:35 AM Reply   
This is what the climate debate is: every reputable scientist in the world vs. "my buddies CALIFORNIA professor".

That is not a debate. Your buddies professor is an idiot. He teaches GEORGRAPHY at Stansislau state.

He might as well be a poetry major, commenting on how airplane engines work.

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Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       02-22-2018, 7:37 AM Reply   
Have any Trump supporters watched the Dirty Money episode on him? It's not Netflix and it's fantastic.
Old     (lugwrench)      Join Date: Jul 2002       02-22-2018, 8:42 AM Reply   
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My buddies CALIFORNIA professor, Dr Karlstrom, believes its bs: http://naturalclimatechange.us
Wait, you're just trolling now right? Or are you really using this guy to prove your point, a guy that believes Hurricane Harvey as well as other hurricanes and earthquakes were "c/overtly manufactured in the giant planetary lab of the US military as the misleadingly named New World Order scrambles to roll out its ruthless depopulation agenda and flex its totalitarian muscle over all of Planet Earth."
https://everydayconcerned.net/2017/0...us-government/

That's right, there is a big secret weather lab that is creating hurricanes, earthquakes and other events for new world order to thin the world population. Hold on, doesn't that mean he believes in man made climate change?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       02-22-2018, 9:00 AM Reply   
You guys keep trying to engage White Supremacist Pride (prowaKKKe) as it he’s anything other than an uneducated racist troll. Don’t feed the trolls.

Also interesting how he stopped posting back when the great Christian hypocrite MarkJ took his little break and just started up again now that MarkJ came back. Jekyl & Hyde?
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-22-2018, 1:19 PM Reply   
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