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Old     (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-07-2019, 3:18 AM Reply   
Thought I would post this separate from the vlogs as it may be a bit informative. I definitely didn't know some of these grabs previously to looking at this list. Hope yall enjoy.

Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       05-07-2019, 7:01 AM Reply   
Years ago I came across this.
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Old     (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-07-2019, 2:46 PM Reply   
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Years ago I came across this.
yeah i think this is definitely a bit off, nuclear is definitely not on the nose ha
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-09-2019, 4:14 AM Reply   
Isn't the forbidden Lien in that pic identical to the allowed Method grab? BTW, I think forbidden grabs are still better than no grab. I started with tailfish on my backroll until i could finally get to the tail.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-09-2019, 5:19 AM Reply   
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Isn't the forbidden Lien in that pic identical to the allowed Method grab? BTW, I think forbidden grabs are still better than no grab. I started with tailfish on my backroll until i could finally get to the tail.
Method is technically the same location as melan unless you’re a European. Then you go nose.
Nuclear should be where lien is on this list and crail on the nose.
I don’t think nuclear grabs look good at all.

There’s nothing wrong with weird grabs or boot grabs when learning, good way to get down to it.

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Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-09-2019, 7:01 AM Reply   
So Melon and Method are the same grab with two different names?
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-09-2019, 7:05 AM Reply   
A method is a melan tweak. Just like a lien air is technically a frontside air with melan tweak, not what’s described above
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-09-2019, 8:53 AM Reply   
Got it! Thanks for the explanation. I know what you mean about the tweak. Been trying that on the kicker but not really pulling it off that well. I thought the Lien was a Method. So now I've got to work on placing it Melan and adding the tweak.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-13-2019, 7:32 AM Reply   
Method is a trick. Not a grab. It's the melon grab with a shifty.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-13-2019, 7:35 AM Reply   
Just working on it yesterday at Odub off the kneebreaker. Couldn't even get close on the Unit XL, so I switched to the smaller kicker. Will try the XL again next time. And the shifty part is still not looking that great yet.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-14-2019, 8:26 AM Reply   
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Just working on it yesterday at Odub off the kneebreaker. Couldn't even get close on the Unit XL, so I switched to the smaller kicker. Will try the XL again next time. And the shifty part is still not looking that great yet.
I never had it down either, but the experts always said you had to do the shifty, then go for the grab.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-14-2019, 8:56 AM Reply   
I'll try working on just the shifty for a while.
Old     (ryan_shima1)      Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Layton, Utah       05-15-2019, 12:28 PM Reply   
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Method is technically the same location as melan unless youíre a European. Then you go nose.
Nuclear should be where lien is on this list and crail on the nose.
I donít think nuclear grabs look good at all.

Thereís nothing wrong with weird grabs or boot grabs when learning, good way to get down to it.
So if Crail is supposed to be on the nose, does that mean that Cobe Mikacich was doing his Crail tantrums wrong all these years?
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-15-2019, 4:11 PM Reply   
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So if Crail is supposed to be on the nose, does that mean that Cobe Mikacich was doing his Crail tantrums wrong all these years?
Yup.

But that was the mid90s so we can give him a pass.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-15-2019, 4:11 PM Reply   
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I never had it down either, but the experts always said you had to do the shifty, then go for the grab.
I always grab first and then boot it but thatís just me...
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-16-2019, 2:37 AM Reply   
Trying, but it's hard!
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Old     (granddaddy53)      Join Date: Dec 2013       05-19-2019, 3:00 AM Reply   
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Trying, but it's hard!
My hero, I thought I had a few years on me at 58, guess all my old man excuses donít cut it anymore, I needed this pic
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-20-2019, 4:26 AM Reply   
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My hero, I thought I had a few years on me at 58, guess all my old man excuses donít cut it anymore, I needed this pic
Gotta stick with it as long as these old bones will let me. Love riding behind the G23, and OWC has a pretty good deal on Weds.

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