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Old     (sanger)      Join Date: May 2002       12-21-2007, 12:02 PM Reply   
Like to ask a couple of questions?

Do they still have the hump in the middle of the engine cover?

Hard to tell by the picture on the Sanger website but is there enough freeboard to prevent rollers from coming over the side or bow?

With a 1,000 lbs of ballast do you get a descent wake?

Old    walt            12-21-2007, 12:51 PM Reply   
If you get the 330 HP Black Scorpion engine I don't think there is a hump.

I run a lot more than 1000 pounds without problems.

Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       12-21-2007, 1:20 PM Reply   
No hump on my '99 w/Black Scorpion

I've never swamped mine, although a buddy driving it once took some water over the bow. (After a quick lesson on what not to do, he was fine.)

Personally, I've always preferred low freeboard boats. One of many reasons I own a Sanger.
Old     (montana_sanger)      Join Date: Nov 2007       12-21-2007, 3:07 PM Reply   
I wouldn't call it a hump but the aft deck is not completely flat (higher in the middle)as compared to a v215 or larger.
I was surprised at the wake with 1000lbs ballast.

I agree with Rio low freeboard=sexy
Old     (sanger)      Join Date: May 2002       12-21-2007, 4:52 PM Reply   
Thanks guys. The LA boat show is next month and I'll be able to check them out in person.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       12-21-2007, 7:21 PM Reply   
Low is sexy. The V210 is surprisingly dry even when slammed down, it has a unique way of rocking around with wakes which keeps the water at bay. We regularly run 2000 pounds and can't remember the last time we took a wave in, we use the bow cover which helps as well. You do have to know how to drive though, powering around at 7-10 mph causes chest high rollers which would swamp anything.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       12-21-2007, 7:26 PM Reply   
Oh, and we have the 350mag motor so the deck is humped, I like the way it looks but a flat deck would be more practical. The Black scorp motor allows a flatter deck but its not completely flat.
Old     (sanger)      Join Date: May 2002       12-21-2007, 8:36 PM Reply   
Darren great pics!
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       12-21-2007, 11:05 PM Reply   
This shows the "no hump" sunpad on the 330 Black Scorpion...
Old     (malibu)      Join Date: Sep 2004       12-24-2007, 4:58 PM Reply   
I surf behind a V210 with around 1,500 lbs of ballast and it works fine. The driver just has to be careful not to stop too quick if the rider falls, or water will come over the back. As far as the hump goes I like it. My boat doesn't look like all the other ones out there.
Old     (whitten24)      Join Date: May 2007       12-25-2007, 2:11 PM Reply   
Have 05 V210 and run about 1200# ballast and have had no problems...but u do have to know how to drive right...but thats the sick part about sangers are how sleek they are...the wake is awesome...buddy has an 06 x-2 and my sanger wake is bigger and is lot more fun to ride behind...
Old     (kcampos)      Join Date: Jul 2007       12-26-2007, 9:35 AM Reply   
Kind of off the topic but does anyone surfing behind a sanger V210 use a F.A.E. Fresh Air Exhaust? If not do you ever feel any of the effects of carbon monoxide. Headaches, dizzyness anything?
Old     (malibu)      Join Date: Sep 2004       12-26-2007, 6:45 PM Reply   
Ken, I don't have a F.A.E. on my V210. I surf behind it a lot and haven't ever noticed a headache or dizziness. I have heard good things about the F.A.E though.
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       12-27-2007, 8:12 AM Reply   
Ken, If we're not Wakeboarding behind ours, we are surfing or skating, and no one has gotten dizzy or headaches.
But that's kind of like saying "I don't wear a vest, and I'm still alive"
I think F.A.E.s are a good saftey idea, especially if you surf alot for long periods of time.
Old     (sanger)      Join Date: May 2002       01-01-2008, 8:01 PM Reply   
Michael when you say your Sanger wake is bigger than the X2 is that when wakeboarding or wakesurfing or both?
Old     (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       01-01-2008, 9:31 PM Reply   
With the FAE on you can talk to the surfer.
Old     (elduche)      Join Date: Aug 2005       01-08-2008, 9:02 AM Reply   
here is a picture of the the back deck on a 2006 v210 with the black scorpion engine. the sides slope down but the middle deck is completely flat.

Old     (toesideturtle)      Join Date: Oct 2002       01-08-2008, 4:50 PM Reply   
For you Sanger guys.....which boat puts out a bigger wake? the 215 or the 210

Old    walt            01-08-2008, 4:59 PM Reply   
Old    mendo247            01-08-2008, 5:12 PM Reply   
OOOOO BOY.......

To quote the best reciever in the league (T.O)

"Get your popcorn ready!"
Old     (load)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-08-2008, 5:53 PM Reply   

I will have to think about that one and get back to you

Old     (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       01-08-2008, 6:08 PM Reply   
Chuck - you looking for a new boat?
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-08-2008, 6:19 PM Reply   
Without ballast, I would say hands down 210, and not because I have one, but the 90" beam and low freeboard takes very little to sink 'er down. With ballast and how much?
...I don't want to get into that pissing contest.
Old    stillstandin            01-08-2008, 6:23 PM Reply   
I remeber this argument getting NASTY not long ago. Hey Richard, show the pics of your 215 slammed, and the wake....biggest 215 wake pic I have seen.
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-08-2008, 9:23 PM Reply   
My boat has no factory ballast, this shot is with a half full fatsac on the port side to make up for the drivers' weight, and no one else in the boat...
Old     (toesideturtle)      Join Date: Oct 2002       01-09-2008, 1:32 PM Reply   
thinking about it
Old     (detonate69)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-09-2008, 5:48 PM Reply   
V210 throw a good wake as do V215's. The pic in my profile is from behind a 2004 V210, Factory ballast with 8 people in the boat from what I remember. It was a great wake and boosted you well.
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       01-09-2008, 7:06 PM Reply   
Both will throw a great wake, but the V210 will do it with less ballast and less fuel used, and still handle like a champ. The V210 is narrower, and like chris said, narrower boats require less weight. Another example of this is the SAN 210. Low freeboard is really only an issue if the driver is in-experienced. And yes Gary, you can get a decent wake with 1000lbs., depending on the speed you ride at.
Old     (sanger)      Join Date: May 2002       01-09-2008, 8:57 PM Reply   
And what speed would that be?
Old     (ccwhite)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-10-2008, 5:55 AM Reply   
The 210 is narrow and steep while the 215 is wider and rampy. For quick thinking the 210 is like a SAN 210 and the 215 is very close to a Malibu
Old     (sanger)      Join Date: May 2002       01-10-2008, 8:11 AM Reply   
Steep is good for us guys with poor technique .
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       01-10-2008, 6:40 PM Reply   
Gary, I would say in the 20 to 22 range...


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