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Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-12-2013, 4:08 PM Reply   
@ 1:10 in the video Obama say's heath care reform "would NOT include illegal immigrants"
Then Joe Wilson shout's out "YOU LIE"

It looks like some one was telling the truth. Look at what "California Endowment, a statewide health-care foundation is pushing.

Read more here:

Last edited by grant_west; 03-12-2013 at 4:10 PM.
Old     (Brearly_Mason)      Join Date: Nov 2012       03-12-2013, 4:43 PM Reply   
Obamacare is not healthcare in any way, shape, or form. It is simply a device to destroy private healthcare "insurance" and providers so that the Federal Government will be able to institute a single payer plan where the government controls everything. Several Democrats have now come out and admitted that.
Old     (MrShelley)      Join Date: Apr 2012       03-12-2013, 5:38 PM Reply   
^^^ This.
Old     (norcalrider)      Join Date: Jun 2002       03-13-2013, 3:15 PM Reply   
California Endowment is a private organization that can push anything they want. That said they have a lot of money for this public campaigns and I have no doubt we will see CA legislation on this topic.

Federal legislation is another story and unlikely especially before the 2014 midterm elections that the President has started campaigning for...

CA Endowment is a few floors above me right now, not a fan of most of their politics.


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