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Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-21-2009, 4:31 PM Reply   
Both are around the same price and have similar options. Mostly want to know which will put up a better wake, and general opinions about these boats.
Old     (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       10-21-2009, 4:39 PM Reply   
v210 cant even compare
Old     (supraride)      Join Date: Jun 2007       10-21-2009, 4:52 PM Reply   
I agree with Isaac. No comparison, Sanger all the way
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       10-21-2009, 4:59 PM Reply   
There's a lot of V210 owners here on the boards which to me speaks volumes. You're looking at a pretty huge difference in wakes one is steep and more on the narrow side and the other more rampy and very wide. I love Sangers so that where my vote goes and it's one of the all time wakes.

Edit: my buddy has a 06 typhoon so yes I've ridden it.

(Message edited by hate&pain on October 21, 2009)
Old     (bfnaci)      Join Date: Dec 2008       10-21-2009, 5:26 PM Reply   
Sanger
Old     (boarder831)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-21-2009, 5:35 PM Reply   
Plus one more for the Sanger
Old     (humboldt9)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-21-2009, 5:45 PM Reply   
Sanger, and yes I own a Sanger...
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       10-21-2009, 8:44 PM Reply   
Sanger
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-21-2009, 9:03 PM Reply   
If your in to hard core surfing then the Typhoon is the better choice. If you want to wakeboard even semi seriously then V210 IMO.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       10-21-2009, 10:27 PM Reply   
Sanger!! Talk to Darren, he has been riding his V210 loaded up for years. My profile pic is a well dumped V210 if you need any more convincing.
Old     (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       10-21-2009, 10:59 PM Reply   
wake pic of my v210.. Darren and Walt could also show you some insane wake pics...

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Old     (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       10-22-2009, 5:33 AM Reply   
Go to CenturionCrew for pics of the Avalanche wake which is the same hull just a foot shorter.

If the typhoon doesn't have a switchblade I think you'll like the Sanger much more from the pics I've seen above if that's stock under the seats ballast?

Avalanche/typhoon are sensitive to weight when boarding without a blade. You have to tell people to move around.

Surfing waves are both great, but typhoon gets the nod. I own an Avy with blade.

If the 350 merc is in the Typhoon, walk away. You can prop it right and it works, but you'll be kicking yourself for a bigger motor. Needs at least the 330 scorp IMO. And they changed the drive ratio in 05' I believe. Something for you to check out.

(Message edited by sailing216 on October 22, 2009)
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       10-22-2009, 9:03 AM Reply   
Two different monsters really. The Typhoon has a lot more room, higher freeboard, but the wake is going to be tougher to manage, but it can be managed. Really depends on what you are looking for. An efficient small wake machine - Sanger, a multi-family cruiser that can kick up a modest wake - Typhoon.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-22-2009, 9:49 AM Reply   
Typhoon, I have an avalanche and my ex- pro wakeboard buddies say it's one of their favorite wakes to jump. Joe B is right though, the wake can be hard to dial in. The surf wave is amazing!
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-22-2009, 9:54 AM Reply   
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Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-22-2009, 11:03 AM Reply   
Here are the links to the boats im looking at if it'll help any http://www.olingermarine.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=02623407X10K22K2009J12I 58I45JPMQ4074R0&veh=6983&pov=1449158 and http://www.olingermarine.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=02623407X10K22K2009J12I58 I45JPMQ4074R0&veh=1431204
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-22-2009, 11:28 AM Reply   
Jason,
Are you in CDA, or? I am in Sandpoint. I personally don't like the walk through transom on the Typhoon. It really limits your seating. I know someone with a 210 and it's a really nice all around boat. Shoot me an email, and I can help out.

duffymahoney@hotmail.com
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       10-22-2009, 11:59 AM Reply   
^^^^I'm just the opposite and would prefer the walkthrough transom instead of the wrap around that I have now, with its freshly torn rear seat vinyl in the exact place where the walkthrough would be. Tore at the seams, undoubtedly from everyone stepping on it.

Edit: Both seem like pretty decent deals.

(Message edited by bmartin on October 22, 2009)
Old     (towboat_222)      Join Date: Feb 2007       10-22-2009, 12:38 PM Reply   
C4 typhoon is not walk thru transom full wrap seating
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-22-2009, 12:50 PM Reply   
The typhoon he is looking at isn't a c4. Here is a nice Tige 22v for sale in the same area. Great boat, tons of freeboard etc..

http://spokane.craigslist.org/boa/1395997257.html
Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-22-2009, 3:31 PM Reply   
I live in Canada so these boats are good deals because this dealer is willing to ship right up to whitefish Montana which is just over the border from where I live near lethbridge AB. I'm also lookin at resale value because boats are worth alot more in Canada.
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       10-22-2009, 3:53 PM Reply   
Sanger v210.
Old     (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       10-22-2009, 4:56 PM Reply   
The typhoon has so much more freeboard and might matter on bigger lakes. What motor is in that Typhoon???? Are you looking to surf too? Do you have a family or big crew?

Here is stock ballast of 3x250lbs and 2 crew dialed in and no blade 75' 23mph. 2nd pic is with blade, same stock setup.
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You can get the straight up ramp like the blade with more ballast and that wakeplate I see on there.

(Message edited by sailing216 on October 22, 2009)
Old     (kbob)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-23-2009, 5:34 AM Reply   
Is that last picture right before a nose dive face plant?! Haha!
Old     (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       10-23-2009, 6:32 AM Reply   
Yeh, the second picture was a pretty bad wreck. But hey, that's a nice wave ha ha. How's that wave taste? Gotta learn the hard way sometimes.

Kids bounce right back, I would have lost my knee.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       10-23-2009, 8:06 AM Reply   
Is the older typhoon the same hull as the Avalanche? The older typhoon has a shorter than 23' hull with a false transom that adds the extra length. Is this just the Avalanche hull with the false transom added and a different deck?

I believe the newer Typhoon is an Avalanche hull that has been lengthened some.
Old     (chilidog)      Join Date: Dec 2007       10-23-2009, 8:15 AM Reply   
Seems to me you are comparing apples to oranges, a 23ft boat to a 21 foot boat there's alot in between, V215, X2 etc. Maybe look at what you can afford bottom line and wait for a little while to do more research, if you are in Canada chances are you aren't going to be riding much til June. Sanger vs. Centurion quality wise Sanger is better IMO. Seems like you are comparing a Blazer to a full size Suburban when there are a multitude of Tahoe's right in between. I'm just sayin.....
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-23-2009, 10:13 AM Reply   
Jason,
If you can wait, people get desperate a little later in the season. You can sometimes grab even better deals. The Sanger v215 would be a better boat. I know the same dealer has one for 28k.
Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-23-2009, 12:38 PM Reply   
Ya I think we are going to wait a little while till we make a decision on a boat. Ill still ask the question though because I don't know a lot about Sanger. are they not sold as much up here in Canada or something? How would you compare Sanger to say mastercraft or nautique?
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       10-23-2009, 1:03 PM Reply   
Sanger hasn't changed a ton over the years. They have found something that works well and stuck with it. The Sanger dealer in the Seattle area told me that they don't like to try trends until they know it works. Their boats are known for being a great value, well made, great rough water ride, very reliable and above average wake making ability.

They are a smaller boat builder that for the most part stays on the West Coast. they don't have many if any dealers on the east coast.
Old     (houstonwatersports)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-23-2009, 1:36 PM Reply   
Sanger compared to Mastercraft. No comparison in my opinion, Mastercraft has a lot of cool opions and bling and have great materials (maybe a notch above Sanger) but i don't think they put it together as well as they could.

Sanger Compared to Nautique. I have always looked at them as on the same level. Nothing but the best as far as craftmanship and quality. Sanger just doesn't change much so they have lower overhead and less options. I always say Sanger is a Nautique without a lot of the technology.

Sanger's biggest advantage in my opinion is that almost everything is made in house so they don't mark up their parts like a lot of the other manufacturers this obviously keeps the boats cheaper.

p.s. I am a Nautique and Sanger dealer and personally own a 2008 Sanger V-215
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-23-2009, 2:01 PM Reply   
I personally think most of the newer boats on the market are nice. You will most likely be happy with all.
Old     (nar722)      Join Date: Dec 2003       10-23-2009, 2:24 PM Reply   
HWS - Sanger on par with Nautique? Wow, while over the years, I have felt that most boat makers have stepped it over the past 5 or 6 years and have closed the gap quite a bit on MC,CC and BU...those boats are still a bit above the rest. I'm not knocking Sanger, I almost bought one but was turned off by the sales guy. I also agree with Duffy but I also feel that the year of boats you are looking at are not nearly as good as where those boat makers are today. With that being said, I don't see you being unhappy with either of those two boats. On just wakeboard wake alone, imo I would pick the v210, but for the extra room (23ft)and versatility of wake/surf, I would go with the Centurion.... your strategy of waiting a while longer is a good one. I can't remember where I just saw it but I saw a 2001 super air for $22K. Now that's a no brainer so lots of good deals out there. good luck
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       10-23-2009, 2:34 PM Reply   
That 2001 Super Air is in the classifieds section here. Brian Yow posted it.
Old     (houstonwatersports)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-23-2009, 3:09 PM Reply   
Nickster--I am by no means saying that Sanger is Equal to Nautique. Comparing Sanger to Mastercraft, Malibu, or Nautique is like comparing Apples to Oranges. The big three have all the technology and are constantly pushing the envelope. Sanger sits back on the proven tried and true aspects of the wakeboarding and Water skiing market. But in my opinion you take all the extra options, warranties and perks of owning one of the big three and go equal boat to equal vs Sanger. the Sanger will literally drive circles around them and have a quieter ride while doing it. They are just a simple boat that has the equal to if not the best craftmanship and quality available.
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       10-23-2009, 3:46 PM Reply   
Thats very well put.
Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-23-2009, 4:46 PM Reply   
Thanks for the feedback. however i did kindof word my question a little weird. i know that the big three are in a different category of customers, offering new innovations in order to stay on top. That also raises the prices. I think i meant more of comparing performance of the boats without all the extra fancy features. its just that i am a little more familiar with those boats, because of friends who own some, but i am not in the market for an expensive boat, and am trying to find a boat that performs close to their level without the extra bells and whistles which im willing sacrifice for a smaller price. Maybe im being to idealistic.
Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-23-2009, 4:48 PM Reply   
i also like how you put that Houston
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-23-2009, 5:03 PM Reply   
Jason,
Where in Canada do you live? I am just south of the boarder, and we have lots of folks from Alberta on our lake. You can come ride in my Avalanche next spring before you make a decision.
Old     (jasonmurray12)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-23-2009, 7:00 PM Reply   
I live near lethbridge no more than a half an hour from the boarder. We are hoping to have another boat before spring while prices are still low. So your offer doesn't help too much but thanks anyways
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-24-2009, 9:48 AM Reply   
I have bought all my boats in the spring, people are dumping boats to upgrade and dealers are dumping boats to get the new models in. It can be a great time to buy:-) Good luck with your decision

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