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Old     (chasemac)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-26-2009, 4:10 PM Reply   
used to ride a substnace... loved the feel, all but the landings anyways... kinda want something that can lock in tight but is still playable... currently ride the witness w/grind base, and is a little too loose for me. I'm an LF fan and narrowed it down to the two... I plan on demoing both but your opinions will help for sure :-) Thank you!
Old     (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-26-2009, 4:18 PM Reply   
i like a really loose board. and the lyman is pretty loose. its locked in when ever i want it to be. but i can kick it out side ways on the water with out even thinking. ive ridden quite a few LF boards. and i love the lyman.

i know you want the lyman or S4

but the watson is great. with the ffins its a tank. but you pull the center one out and its great

(Message edited by lfrider92 on March 26, 2009)
Old     (ouwake)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-26-2009, 4:25 PM Reply   
what size are you going to get. I'll be getting a Lyman 138/ and a S4 138. I'm going to sell the one I don't want much cheaper that new. I ordered them today.
Old     (chasemac)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-26-2009, 4:58 PM Reply   
going for a 139 :-)... let me know how they go :-)
Old     (lfxstar)      Join Date: Jul 2001       03-26-2009, 5:38 PM Reply   
If you are a substance rider, the S4 will basically be a substance on steroids. The Lyman will have less pop than your substance, but will be way faster and land smoother. I say go for the POP and the S4
Old     (n00b)      Join Date: Mar 2006       03-27-2009, 8:59 AM Reply   
If you thought the Witness was too lose then I don't think the Lyman will be the board for you.

On edge it has a nice grip but when flat it butters, as David said it'll kick around really easily even with the quad fin set up.
Old     (okcwakebrdr)      Join Date: Dec 2004       03-27-2009, 10:02 AM Reply my S4 in yesterday.!!! Cant wait to try it out!
Old    gotwake123            03-27-2009, 11:01 AM Reply   
Ive been riding an s4 for about two weeks now and the board is sick. I used to ride a watson ltd and now I go back to it and it felt like it had no pop compared to the s4. If you like the locked down feel then the s4 is a good board for you because it is a little more locked down than a watson but playable. The landing are super soft and the board is really fast. I rode a lynman and it felt kinda like a rome board it was so loose.


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