Guy blows up his Ford F350

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/05/02/i-blew-up-my-2008-f350-on-biodiesel/

I just don't understand Ford, 7.3 was an awesome diesel, every since it is like they lost their way.

wow... atleast it got resolved...

go figure ford... too funny!!

That's why I have an import!!

greg,

real informed decision buying an import. The new toyota tundra has had more recalls than any truck in history. Not to mention that toyota had more recals last year than ford and all gm products combined. They are built real well. Way to support our american economy. The 6.4 is unbelievable and the warranty book stresses the need for ultra low sulfur diesel fuel.

I sell them and it clearly says that you cannot use any bio diesel fuel greater than 5%. This guy obviously jumped the gun and said that Ford wouldn't cover it and it seems they did. Local dealer's have to call on regional warranty specialists to make a decision when someone does something to violate their warranty.

Ewing anytime a diesel comes out it's going to have a few issues here and there, they all do. Testing done on the 6.4 is exactly the same as that done on the 7.3 something Ford and Navistar got away from with the 6.0. At the end of the day I'm certain you will see the 6.4 being a phenomenal motor.

James,

Where did you come up with that information? My brother works for Toyota on the Tundra and there have been very very few recalls compared to some of the domestics. I drive a F-150 and have always driven Fords. So I know all too well all the recalls I have dealt with over the years. I'm not saying Ford's are bad as I drive one, but I can tell you it doesnt get much better than that Tundra. That V8 makes more hp and tq than engines that are half a liter bigger and gets about the same mileage as old Tundra's 4.7 liter. Its an amazing truck!

And on a side note, the Tundra is completely built in the US so its more domestic than most domestic manufactures' products.

Not trying to flame you just giving my opinion.

Ford is great. We love our Ford's. Our Mustang and F250 treat us right...

So then Mark if you love the Toyota's then why are you driving a Ford? I never uderstand why the foreign cars sometimes are built here in the US?? I had a honda that was built in Michigan.

I think all cars no matter what they are or where they are made will have issues if you do not take care of them. Kind of like a child, if you do not take care of them and feed them, they will have issues. Same thing as a vehicle.

"real informed decision buying an import. The new toyota tundra has had more recalls than any truck in history. Not to mention that toyota had more recals last year than ford and all gm products combined."

Learn your FACTS! I just looked up all the TSB's and recalls for a 2004 Tundra and an F150 on Shopkey. Ford has 252 TSB's with 10 recalls. Toyota has 71 TSb's with 7 recalls. By the way Toyota outsold GM who used to be the largest auto producer and has since given up market share to Toyota who is now the world wide leader in sales.

So are you ready for GM's stats on a 2004 Silverado 1500? 953 TSB's with 14 recalls.

The 7.3L had to go away. It was inefficent, and a heavy polluter. C.A.R.B. rules for 2008 are very strict. The guy is very lucky to get it covered, and probably the only reason they are covering it is due to the power of the internet. When I took a diesel class we were informed of the issues bio fuel created.

Molly, I'm driving an F-150 because I paid 17,000 for my 4x4 Supercrew and a Tundra costs around 40,000 comparably equipped. And that is out of my price range, and if you read what I posted I said I wasnt knocking Ford as I drive one and love it. I'm just biased toward the Tundra because my brother is working on it and busting his ass to put a great product out there.

Cool, thanks Mark, was not trying to cause issues, was just curious. I understand the $$$ factor, big issue when it comes to buying things. You are only 22 and a baby in my books, so the time will come when you can afford that 40k Toyota Tundra..

Molly, its all good. Yeah, I'm still a broke college kid and feel lucky to be able to afford the truck I have haha!! First on my list of things after college though is a decent V-drive!

I have a family member who works for Toyota...I asked him, he said it wasnt the Tundra that had more recalls then ford and Gm, it was all of there products combined had more recalls. He did say part of the recalls is because they take care of there customers....Dont care either way. I personally would never drive a Toyota truck.

That is cool and when you get that boat at least you will have a truck to pull it with. You will be educated, so I am sure you will start making the big bucks soon after college.

Going back the guy who blew up his PSD. First off, he's an idiot for running that high a bio blend in a truck that is clearly not built for it. I don't understand how you drop 50k on a brand new truck with a brand new model motor that is specified to have a 5% blend max and shove a 99% blend in there. That thing is swimming with sensors and electronics and pollution control crap and he sticks B99 in it right out of the gate?? Total moron. Get an older 6.0 or 7.3 and bio that up, there is plenty of knowledge on these engines.

I don't really care why the engine flopped, Ford or the Bio, it's still a very dumb thing to do. Maybe I should go by a tuner and add 150 hp to my 6.0 and take it to the track and do brakestands and drive like an idiot and then when the head gasket blows I should take it back to Ford and complain?? I think not.

From the 7.3->6.0->6.4 it's all about emissions. Those are the biggest changes, the pollution control devices. I have heard very good things about the general performance of the 6.4, those that are not blowing up at least.}

Another example of Ford going down. Producing a new product, that can't run bio??? Whatever, I can throw whatever I want in my 7.3, and the wave of the future blow turbos, and catches on fire, this after the disaster of the 6.0. I can't wait for the day Toy comes out with a heavy half diesel, the little three will be in more trouble. Damn if only BMW made a diesel truck I would be set

I think the biggest problem with the bio is that it contains a lot of ash and would quickly plug the particulate filter. I would suspect that all the big 3 diesels with new emissions would not allow large amounts of biodiesel.

I drive a chevy and dont wana get into an argument about who is better but Ford really has had some bad stuff lately.The big trucks have been there bread and butter and they have got people scared to buy them.

This is an article that I received for all you Toyota guys out there. They may be built here but ask the factory workers how the pay and pension compare to the old days. Also take a look to see where all the billions of dollars Toyota makes goes. (Japan Economy)

Although we've barely passed mid-February, Toyota has already recalled! 533,417 vehicles this year in a mix that, according to www.AutoRecalls.us, includes Tundras Sequoias and Camrys. That puts Toyota on track to recall more than the over 1.76 million autos they recalled in the U.S. and Japan in 2006, and the 2.2 million they recalled in 2005 when they recalled more cars than they built.

And for you guys waiting on the import 3/4 and 1 ton diesel trucks, you might be waiting a while. Nissan and Toyota both announced in automotive news that they have eliminated plans to built these vehicles till at least 2012. Go test drive a 6.4L and give it a chance. It is as quiet outside the truck as any other diesel is inside and the power delivery feels like that of a gas engine. Let's see if we can't get this American economy going again.

(Message edited by slmracer9 on May 03, 2007)

What do you expect an uneducated worker to be paid? Many of our union workers are way over paid. You need to start thinking globally, as the world is one giant market now. Better stop buying American cars/trucks and anything electronic. That would include the computer you are using, as they are sourced using "global parts".

Here is a screen shot of Toyota's main recall on the Tundra's, Sequoia's, etc.

Notice it says with warning? Duh! Loud noise means fix vehicle. I would bet a Ball joint on an American vehicle will wear out just as fast, and guarantee the shocks will go bad on an American vehicle in less than 60K miles. Ford's are the worst there. So Toyota stepped up and said no problem we will fix it. I would call that a great company. What about all the Chevy's that are dying on the road because the crank sensors fail? Has Chevy recalled them? Nope! What about the beloved 7.3L that has a camshaft sensor problem causing them to stall anytime? Ford has done nothing but sell replacement parts. That was a huge issue and still is. The EBP pulls the signal to ground and there goes the cam signal again causing a stall or no start. No recalls present. Not sure when the last time you had a vehicle stall on you unexpectedly but it can be freaky. I am usually test driving them knowing they stall, with a computer hooked into them recording the data stream and it still gets my blood pumping, when they stall.

Yup buy American, since Chevy SUV's are built in Mexico using world sourced parts

I am not against American vehicles, I own a few, but I also own a Toyota and love German cars. The American manufacturers are losing market share for many reasons one of the largest being longevity and cost.

Edit: For Ford's sake I sure hope this new truck runs like a champ. Ford going out of business would be a horrible thing.

(Message edited by Peter_C on May 03, 2007)

James B, not to defend Toyota and their business practices, but the reason why the Big 3 are hurting so badly is because of those big paychecks and pensions the autoworkers had in the good old days.

Another hooey thing about the original post. First off, there is actually not all that many folks complaining about their new Superduty Diesels. Most are reports of people really enjoying them. The tranny in them is proven, the truck itself is tremendous as well.

So this guy tanks up on BIO, which the engine is not built for, and it fails quickly. He takes it. to a dealership and the first thing they do, which they should, is deny warranty. It is clearly stated not to use BIO. So the burden of proof becomes his to some extent. So he persues it and Ford actually sends down an engineer to check the situation and he OK's a replacement truck or motor for the guy.

I actually think this is pretty damn nice all things considered. Especially when the dude is running B99. He then states about a massive recall. I have not seen any news of this particular recall on the 6.4l on any of the sites.

Then the dude starts talking about a cover up?? Please, that is BS. Again, i am hearing very little on the new 6.4l as far as major things go. They had some issues with the regeneration process at idle and low speed, anyone hauling is kicking high enough EGT's to have no issues with regen at all.

So I say BS. Dude probably got a French Fry stuck in his injector. Or maybe his BIO was too thick on a cold day and worked his injectors causing a failure and an overfueling condition.

Maybe Ford ponied up because they actually want to see how these engines do with the BIO. More and more farmers are using it, a good market to test for durability under constant load and abuse.

How could you miss the recall on the turbo and flame thrower?

I don't see anything wrong with having a flamethrower tail pipe.

That was the regen recall.