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Old    alanp            12-19-2005, 6:39 PM Reply   
anyone have any tricks they have been trying for an ungodly amount of time and just not been able to land? mine has been the ts front roll. ive been trying that trick for years now and just cant get it. (im not looking for tips just venting). there is always next year. ive also been having dificulty with the hs front roll but no where close to the problems with the ts front. what tricks are causing you guys problems?
Old     (wakeboard19)      Join Date: Apr 2005       12-19-2005, 6:58 PM Reply   
Whirly 5
Old     (malibususpect)      Join Date: Mar 2003       12-19-2005, 7:07 PM Reply   
it took me 2 years to land a backroll but i finally did it this summer
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       12-19-2005, 7:20 PM Reply   
HS 540 is a bastard. I've landed it, but it's also sent me to ER for stiches.
Old     (showtime)      Join Date: Nov 2005       12-19-2005, 7:35 PM Reply   
tantrum -- to me it "looks" the easiest to throw, but i can not get around -- any tips would be appreciated...
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       12-19-2005, 7:37 PM Reply   
I had the same problem Josh. The hardest is part is timing. You can't throw it too early or too late. The hardest part is looking back behind you. This will create a lot of rotation. I was trying to flip without bending my head back, causing me to flip using arm strength which was really ugly.
Old     (eternalshadow)      Join Date: Nov 2001       12-19-2005, 7:46 PM Reply   
Tantrum... damn spinning into it, or pulling the handle has added up to a world of hurt, and same with a hs 180, the 180 at least I'll get for awhile but then i'll loose it, and loose it good.
Old     (whitie)      Join Date: Jul 2004       12-19-2005, 7:46 PM Reply   
Hs 360 finaly got it this summer and Ts front roll, been throwin it for years stil short on rotation. tried a crow but i wont swich hands so i ghey toss the handle. Their is always next year.




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Old     (gherk)      Join Date: Aug 2001       12-19-2005, 7:58 PM Reply   
Jrod, What did you do on the HS5 that caused the stitches? I have landed a few toeside 5s and I'm getting ready to start on the HS 5.
Old     (mjmurphy53711)      Join Date: Mar 2004       12-19-2005, 8:01 PM Reply   
im pretty sure jrod also mashed his ankle on those hs 5's too......

haha im going to get flamed for this combo, but here are my bastard tricks....sw hs 5, toeside w2w ha
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       12-19-2005, 8:15 PM Reply   
HS 360 is a ROYAL PAIN but I think I might have gotten a tip this weekend(hopefully)that will get me past it.
Old     (showtime)      Join Date: Nov 2005       12-19-2005, 8:24 PM Reply   
HS360.... try holding the short handle w/ you inside hand and the main handle behind you back w/ your outside hand... always commit... the hardest falls i have had were on the HS360... hope this helps someone..
Old     (brick)      Join Date: Nov 2003       12-19-2005, 8:24 PM Reply   
180 to blind. I keep getting handle popped.
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       12-19-2005, 8:39 PM Reply   
Joshua,do you mean wrapped?
Old     (wakedad33)      Join Date: Oct 2005       12-19-2005, 8:43 PM Reply   
Tim, try grabing the blind 180 indy, it forces your chest forward and helps you land on your toes.
Old     (brick)      Join Date: Nov 2003       12-19-2005, 8:51 PM Reply   
Thanks Randy, it pisses me off that I can land the BS180 by passing the handle, but just can't do it to blind. I'll work on the Indy next time out.
Old    low_key_wake            12-19-2005, 9:04 PM Reply   
I suck, three's are my hell.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       12-19-2005, 9:13 PM Reply   
I landed hard in the flats....compressed my chin into my knee. The trick feels so easy. I just can't ride out of it.
Old     (wakeviolater)      Join Date: Sep 2004       12-19-2005, 9:47 PM Reply   
crow mobe...I can get the rotation eveytime, but it just doesnt come togeather at the end...damn.
Old     (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       12-19-2005, 10:06 PM Reply   
hs 3, I've had it, and lost it about 50 times.
Old     (dr_inc)      Join Date: Mar 2005       12-19-2005, 10:59 PM Reply   
alan e mail me and ill give you my number.. took me a month of trying and could never land it... always landed on my heels.. i kno what u should do i think hella easy once u land it one time....

i just looked at my video and got peoples view... email me ur number or ill give you mine

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Old     (mjmurphy53711)      Join Date: Mar 2004       12-20-2005, 6:19 AM Reply   
tim, if you want to land the backside 180 blind, throw it late. Later than you think.
Old     (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       12-20-2005, 7:23 AM Reply   
fashion air...I just can't seem to get the arch in the back right.
Old     (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       12-20-2005, 7:28 AM Reply   
Bat Wing

Stupid ball busting (literally) trick!
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       12-20-2005, 7:48 AM Reply   
Mine are the Pete Rose, and the Tantrum to Blind. I hate them......but secretly I love them at the same time.
Old     (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       12-20-2005, 7:52 AM Reply   
switch OA 5
Old     (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       12-20-2005, 8:03 AM Reply   
"hs 3, I've had it, and lost it about 50 times."

ditto.
Old     (santa)      Join Date: Jun 2004       12-20-2005, 9:10 AM Reply   
HS 360. Can do it surface, can do it ollie, but I tried all summer for one wake and W2W, at every possible boar speed, and just can't land it.

Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       12-20-2005, 9:12 AM Reply   
I was in a stage where hs 3s used to come and go. Everytime I got it back is was bigger and slower. It's all in your cut.
Old    ryan_k            12-20-2005, 9:42 AM Reply   
The scarecrows always screwed with my knee but i got them now
Old     (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       12-20-2005, 9:43 AM Reply   
My $.02 - try yanking the rope harder at the top of the wake with your back hand and smoothly initiate the rotation. Like J-Rod was saying...make sure you take a decent cut at it.

When I learned 3's I just went out and did like 10-15 (not exagerating) of them until it felt right. Luckily, I walked away that day and it still took a while after that to work out the kinks.

Back on topic (other than the fashion air troubles )...one trick that would give me trouble is a hs roll to revert...I always landed on my heels. Would do the same thing on a half-cab roll initially, but now I can land that regularly and I haven't gone back to trying the reg roll to revert. Funny story though - the very first time I tried a hs roll to revert I landed it so smoothly...whatever...that's like the wake gods effing with you.
Old     (tonis)      Join Date: Mar 2005       12-20-2005, 9:48 AM Reply   
Scarecrow is giving me the most frustration. I landed 3 in a row and then lost it for the past 2 years!
Old     (mjmurphy53711)      Join Date: Mar 2004       12-20-2005, 10:31 AM Reply   
oh yea, im on the roll 2 rev tip myself....so far my attempts are a broken absolute and two broken ribs.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       12-20-2005, 10:40 AM Reply   
I'm with you J-Rod, the day I learned a HS 5 Joe Umali caught em both on tape and I landed the two I tried. After that it has been a pain in my arse. I do big grabbed 3's consistenlty but that 5 is a punk, it's just getting back on your toes that kills it for me. I'm getting them better but...

After I broke my ankle HS Fronts have scared me, over them.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       12-20-2005, 11:27 AM Reply   
backside 7, the trick is so hard. 5's easy 7 crazy hard.
Old     (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       12-20-2005, 12:00 PM Reply   
CROW MOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old     (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       12-20-2005, 1:13 PM Reply   
I was waiting for that Brandon.
Old     (iamnathanhudson)      Join Date: Dec 2002       12-21-2005, 5:57 AM Reply   
WOAH!!! I have never had a problem with a HS360. I got all the way around the first time and the handle was at my fingertips and the second time i stomped it. My first 360 attempt ever was a HS Blind 360. I don't use all those stupid terms like frontside or backside. I just say you throw it regular or you throw it blind. I stuck the Blind 360 the second attempt also. ALTHOUGH, IT HAS BECOME MY BASTARD TRICK. I don't have any problems with regular HS360. Hey Mike Murphy.....its cool bro, I can't stand TS anything. I am VERY LOPSIDED with my riding. Toward the end of last season i finally started trying to correct this problem. This year I am dedicating a month of doing nothing but TS....so i can try and catch up to all the stuff i can do on my HS. Backroll, years back, used to be a bastard of a trick but i think that goes for most people learning to do one i think simply because it is usually the first invert most people try.
-Nate
Old     (wakescene)      Join Date: Feb 2001       12-21-2005, 6:54 AM Reply   
TS Frontroll...I have literally come up short on this trick 50+ times...never get the full rotation!
Old    tulsawakebrdr            12-21-2005, 7:27 AM Reply   
Tantrum....I landed it once after a couple of trys. Now evertime I throw it I take it blind and can't figure out how to stop. I've watched videos and I do them on the tramp all the time. It is really starting to piss me off since I know I can do one because i've done it before.
Old     (mjmurphy53711)      Join Date: Mar 2004       12-21-2005, 7:38 AM Reply   
^prolly turning your head.
Old     (gene3x)      Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas , TX       12-21-2005, 8:34 AM Reply   
I have a friend that goes to blind everytime and can't figure it out. I think he is turning his head back and it swings him around. I also come up a little short on the FR but have started changing my cut a little and I can tell that my landing is changing for the better. I will get it next year fo sho.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       12-21-2005, 8:42 AM Reply   
Two things make you spin. Pulling the handle, and turning your head. I think this usually happens on a tantrum when you try too hard to turn and square up at the wake.
Old     (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       12-21-2005, 8:55 AM Reply   
Allen- As soon as I seen this I posted. It sucks I have had to do work at work the last few days!!!!

KG and Gene- on a FR, cut in hard, back of your cut a lil at the wake (like a tantrum) and throw it hard try to over throw it. You want to land on your toes or you will never get it. I think it helps if you try to grab it indy of the wake. Good luck

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