Oh yeah, water temp is probably around 48-49. Really cold, hands have a hard time unlacing boots in the cold water. Lake Elsinore was probably mid 50s last week, we have had a few really cold nights recently. Canyon is about 200-300 ft. higher in elevation, and quite a bit deeper than Elsinore, which is only about 5 miles away. (Message edited by socalwakepunk on December 25, 2004)
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