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Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-01-2009, 3:29 AM Reply   
YO!!
I'm looking for a cheap winch for the next season. i got about 2500$ but something cheaper would be even better as i got to send it to Belgium. I need something powerfull enough to pull off someone from the water (not from a deck). Maybe a used winch... The cheapest would be to built it myself but I really really suck for that kinf of thing.. So i would rather buy one.
thank
Old     (eviltweak)      Join Date: Jun 2008       02-01-2009, 6:01 PM Reply   
im not shure if they will ship internationally but try newwakeskates.com
Old     (toxis)      Join Date: Jul 2008       02-02-2009, 12:02 AM Reply   
definitely check new! They just dropped the price of their winch to $616!!!
Old     (eyedvride)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-02-2009, 5:41 AM Reply   
Is that site legit? anyone have one of there winches? Do they come with the torque converter?
Old     (eviltweak)      Join Date: Jun 2008       02-02-2009, 6:45 AM Reply   
yes they have a tav 2 and there prices are fluxuating so jump on that they are trying to move product
Old     (phxwakeguy)      Join Date: Dec 2008       02-02-2009, 6:55 AM Reply   
Those things look like garbage.

Wood...seriously, wood!? w/ a cheap chinese Honda knock off and a centrifical clutch. (even though they dont list the tranny type, you can bet its the cheapest)

Looks like a recipe for disaster.

No thanks.
Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-02-2009, 7:08 AM Reply   
thanks for the website, 616$!!! so cheap!
does anyone else has some advice about this winch???
Is 6,5hp is enough to pull out somebody of 185lbs from the water?
cheers
Old     (phxwakeguy)      Join Date: Dec 2008       02-02-2009, 7:29 AM Reply   
Dude, do some research over on wakeskateing.com about knock off motors...From what I've read they last for a little while and then blow. Notice the warranty info off that site: "1 year warranty on motor "from motor company"

'from motor company' = Not a Honda, or they would probably talk about what a great motor Honda makes and the warranty Honda provides.

Yet they list the item as 'Winch-woodcore-honda'
Looks kinda shady imo.

If you've ridden or operated a winch before you'd know that wood's not going to hold up.

I wouldn’t waste your $.
Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-02-2009, 7:40 AM Reply   
ok thanks scott for the advice.
Anyone else has some knowledge about this winch???
Or an other cheap winch?
Old     (jay_j)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-02-2009, 10:59 AM Reply   
Pierre -

Contact Al from CIE....

Allen, where you at!
Old     (blake_hughes)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weatherford, Texas       02-02-2009, 12:36 PM Reply   
I once saw a winch made from a pit-bike. I'm not sure what the engine size was, but most pit-bikes are 50-70cc (4-stroke).

I thought it was a pretty good idea, considering those 50-70cc engines are bullet-proof and make decent power... You can find pit-bikes for sale all day long (avg. cost $600). Everything is already incorporated... Engine, spool, throttle, brake, and a seat to sit on!

The only downside to this option... There's going to be a little build-up/manufacturing. However, the winch I saw used the rear wheel (minus the tire) as the spool, the front forks as a guide for the rope (minus the front wheel). So, I'm thinking some wheel modification (rope hook-up), some sort of guide for the front... And a way to anchor that bad-boy... And you're set!

If anyone knows of the winch I'm talking about... Post up. I've been considering this as a project of my own.
Old     (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-02-2009, 12:55 PM Reply   
pulldozer makes very solid winches that pull very smooth and are very easy to drive. they are tested and proven
Old     (nautiques210)      Join Date: Dec 2008       02-02-2009, 1:35 PM Reply   
Hey pierre i got a buddy of mine who makes winches and there plenty powerful with an 8 hp motor. If you want i could get you his number and you could give him a call and he could make it to your specifications (color, size, accessories, etc). The pricing on this would also be much cheaper than any of the other winches out there.
Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-02-2009, 1:47 PM Reply   
yeah Adam, could you give me his number or mail( mail would be better as I live in Belgium).
I'll try to contact him to have more info about those home made winch.
cheers
Old     (nautiques210)      Join Date: Dec 2008       02-02-2009, 3:53 PM Reply   
his email is krazychriswinchco@live.com
Old     (newwhit)      Join Date: Mar 2007       02-02-2009, 5:00 PM Reply   
can i contact this dude too?

i am DEFINATELY in the market!!
Old     (newwhit)      Join Date: Mar 2007       02-02-2009, 5:01 PM Reply   
even though i can't spell
Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-03-2009, 3:05 AM Reply   
I send him a email, waiting for an answer..
Does anyone bought some of those?
Old     (nautiques210)      Join Date: Dec 2008       02-03-2009, 12:48 PM Reply   
He hasn't sold any yet but ive seen em and there pretty sick, and ya anyone feel free to contact him. He's looking for all the business he can get. O and pierre it might take a few days for him to get back to you because i dont know if he has internet access right now cause hes in florida.
Old     (phxwakeguy)      Join Date: Dec 2008       02-03-2009, 1:19 PM Reply   
Pierre, you might try neverride as they are out of Switzerland. Their cheapest model is $2750 Euro.

Not sure if thats an option for ya, but it looks like a killer winch and you wouldnt have to ship it accross the pond.
Old     (cpizzle)      Join Date: Sep 2007       02-03-2009, 10:51 PM Reply   
But the newwakeskates winch comes with a toolbag! I guess to operate it! lol!!
Old     (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-04-2009, 6:47 PM Reply   
I know a guy who makes some bad a$$ winches here in Texas. They're really powerful with the 11hp motor and at $1200 they can't be beat. Here's his myspace link with all his info. Check out the video of them winching the ocean at the bottom of the page...so sick!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=438 402993
Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-05-2009, 1:00 AM Reply   
thanks for all those winches everybody, I defenitely gonna order one of those!!!
I just have one last question : do you know how many HP the winch need to have to pull out somebody from the water of 185 lbs ??
cheers
Old     (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-05-2009, 5:58 AM Reply   
6.5 with tav
Old     (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-05-2009, 7:24 AM Reply   
are you talking about a deep water start?

I wouldn't trust 6.5hp motor for deep water starts.
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-05-2009, 7:52 AM Reply   
New has their winches on sale right now SUPER cheap

http://newwakeskates.com/winch-2-1-1.aspx

I hear the pull is F-ing awesome and the frame and spool have a lifetime warranty for under $800 you can't beat it
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-05-2009, 7:55 AM Reply   
OK apparently I didn't read any of the 1st posts but either way New FTW !!!!
Old     (wakeparent)      Join Date: Jan 2005       02-05-2009, 9:59 AM Reply   
8.5 and it pulls 200lbs from deep water starts.
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-05-2009, 12:56 PM Reply   
You could always make your own I only have about $800 in mine and it's a beast I have an 8hp Briggs on it with TAV2 the frame is all steel and I made a steel releasing spool too so pulling out the rope is effortless and it yanks my @ss right out of the water

(Message edited by lovin_the_wake on February 05, 2009)
Old     (cglass08)      Join Date: Jan 2007       02-06-2009, 7:38 AM Reply   
How did you put only 800 into it? Isn't the 8 hp Briggs is like 400 and TAV2 about 200? So you were able to get frame materials, frame welding, chain, sprocket, rope guide, spool, axle for spool, and line all for 200? Or are those prices for engine and TAV2 too high?
Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-07-2009, 5:43 AM Reply   
Used engine on ebay that I rebuilt $200
TAV2 on ebay $145
Amsteel rope $112
Steel for the frame $69
Diamond plate for Spool was free
Big i bolt for rope guide $5
Axle $36
Pillow block bearings(4) $45
Axle Sprockets(3) $60
TAV2 8t sprocket $14
Sprocket hub $17
Chain guard $7
Splash shield $25
Chains(2) $36
The rest of the $$$ is in hardware and paint
I have access to welder so the welding was free
The rope handle is off an old robe that I have
I already had the hand throttle too
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Old     (lovin_the_wake)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-07-2009, 5:48 AM Reply   
The reason for the tall exhaust is so the operator sitting next to the winch isn't sucking in fumes the whole time
Old     (pierem)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-11-2009, 7:46 AM Reply   
I was going to buy the newwakeskate winch, but they just raised there price to 875 $

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